Dallas officer goes home to wrong apartment, kills man inside

[Johnny Cage]

If you think about it for even a second, her "I thought I was in my place and was surprising a home invader" was always bullshit.

Lets assume for a moment that the lay-out of the apartments is identical and that she indeed was unaware of the fact that she was on the wrong floor.

Did she believe that her burglar had also gotten rid of all of furnishing and replaced it with her own? How long would it take you to see that the couch isn't yours and that the TV the guy is watching isn't your brand of TV and that the wallpaper is the wrong color and that there are different pictures on the wall, ... All of these things are visible and recognizable in a fraction of a second. So we are supposed to believe that she had identified the guy on the couch, pulled out her gun, shot him, ... all before she had recognized the fact that she was in the wrong apartment.

Bull. Shit.

BTW, everyone in Texas should be fucking relieved this woman is going to jail. If the cops know they can get away with killing citizens even in the privacy of their homes, it's game over.

[allworkboy]

Here another trigger happy cop. There was a gun in the house found after the shooting. Well, there was no gun in that woman's hands. You can't just go around shooting everyone because there was a gun found after. In that case, almost every other house in the USA has a firearm in it.

The Officer fired his weapon while standing outside in the backyard and shot her from outside through her own bedroom window.

http://heavy.com/news/2019/10/atatiana-jefferson/
http://nytimes.com/2019/10/12/us/fort-worth-police-woman-killed-home.html

Body cam courtesy of the Police department after it's been edited. EDITED for what? To COVER UP something?? At 1:34, you can see the officer turn and say show me your hands and fire his weapon. He didn't even give the woman enough time to show her hands. He pretty much said show me your hands and pulled the trigger simultaneously. The time that passed in the video with him saying put your hands up, show me your hands, and fire his weapon was 2 1/2 seconds.

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[alexora]

The BBC report on this latest white cop - black victim killing:

Black woman shot dead by Texas police
through bedroom window

A black woman was shot dead by police through a bedroom window on Saturday morning, following a request to check on her welfare.

Atatiana Jefferson, 28, had been staying at the Fort Worth residence with her eight-year-old nephew.

A neighbour said he called a non-emergency number after becoming worried in the early hours about an open door.

Police have released body cam footage of the incident, which shows a confrontation lasting only seconds.

The clip shows officers circulating the perimeter of the residential property and spotting a figure at the window. After demanding the person put their hands up, an officer then fired a shot through the glass.

The Fort Worth Police Department said in a statement that the officer, who is a white man, had "perceived a threat" when he drew his weapon.

He has been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation, officials added.

The shooting happened at about 02:30 local time (07:30 GMT) on Saturday morning.

Although it is edited, the body cam footage does not appear to show the officers identifying themselves as police.

It does not show footage from inside the property but includes images of a weapon that police say they found inside the bedroom.

It is unclear if Ms Jefferson was holding a weapon at the time, but firearm possession is legal for people aged over 18 in Texas.

Police said officers provided emergency medical care to Ms Jefferson at the scene, but she was declared dead at the property.

'Playing video games'

The 28-year-old had been playing video games with her nephew before she went to investigate the noise outside at the window, according to a lawyer representing her family.

"Her mom had recently gotten very sick, so she was home taking care of the house and loving her life," lawyer Lee Merritt said on Facebook. "There was no reason for her to be murdered. None. We must have justice."

Ms Jefferson was a university graduate who was working in pharmaceutical equipment sales, he added.

The shooting comes less than two weeks after an off-duty Dallas police officer was jailed for shooting a black man, Bothan Jean, dead in his own apartment.

Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke, himself from Texas, has spoken out about Ms Jefferson's death.

"As we mourn with Atatiana's loved ones, we must demand accountability and promise to fight until no family has to face a tragedy like this again," he posted on Twitter.

The National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People (NAACP) labelled Ms Jefferson's death "unacceptable".

Neighbour James Smith, 62, said he had checked the property himself before calling police, but failed to spot movement inside.

"I'm shaken. I'm mad. I'm upset. And I feel it's partly my fault," Mr Smith told the Star Telegram newspaper about requesting the welfare check. "If I had never dialled the police department, she'd still be alive."

Source:

http://bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50032290

[carolina73]

Originally Posted by Johnny Cage

If you think about it for even a second, her "I thought I was in my place and was surprising a home invader" was always bullshit.

Lets assume for a moment that the lay-out of the apartments is identical and that she indeed was unaware of the fact that she was on the wrong floor.

Did she believe that her burglar had also gotten rid of all of furnishing and replaced it with her own? How long would it take you to see that the couch isn't yours and that the TV the guy is watching isn't your brand of TV and that the wallpaper is the wrong color and that there are different pictures on the wall, ... All of these things are visible and recognizable in a fraction of a second. So we are supposed to believe that she had identified the guy on the couch, pulled out her gun, shot him, ... all before she had recognized the fact that she was in the wrong apartment.

Bull. Shit.

BTW, everyone in Texas should be fucking relieved this woman is going to jail. If the cops know they can get away with killing citizens even in the privacy of their homes, it's game over.

If you read the articles then many of your questions would be answered.

Start with the parking garage. She parked on the wrong floor (the one just above hers) so what would have been the purpose of that. The entrance to the building are from the parking garage directly and they are all the same.
These are apartments. The apartment is directly above hers. It was the same layout. They are apartments not condos. The landlord paints the walls not the resident and if they did they would have to get the landlords permission to wallpaper or whatever thoughts you may have had. I know that I have come home so tired from traveling that I should not have even driven home.
She also admitted that she went in knowing that she was going to shoot the intruder. That is the hole in the story. Castle doctrines as far as I know do not allow you to go into your home to shoot someone and would be limited to someone entering while you are already inside. What if it was her brother in town for a visit? The landlord checking for a leak complaint? When does a cop enter with the intent to use deadly force and additionally not call for backup?

What was the motive? He was too noisy? So she got into her car and parked one floor higher?

It sound to me that she was tired and confused but she was going to kill the M F'er in her apartment out of anger and not with any thought of the law.. If it was her apartment then how was she going to have a legal claim to kill him?

I think judgements here are clouded by opinions instead of people taking an outside view.

[carolina73]

Originally Posted by alexora

The BBC report on this latest white cop - black victim killing:

Black woman shot dead by Texas police
through bedroom window

A black woman was shot dead by police through a bedroom window on Saturday morning, following a request to check on her welfare.

Atatiana Jefferson, 28, had been staying at the Fort Worth residence with her eight-year-old nephew.

A neighbour said he called a non-emergency number after becoming worried in the early hours about an open door.

Police have released body cam footage of the incident, which shows a confrontation lasting only seconds.

The clip shows officers circulating the perimeter of the residential property and spotting a figure at the window. After demanding the person put their hands up, an officer then fired a shot through the glass.

The Fort Worth Police Department said in a statement that the officer, who is a white man, had "perceived a threat" when he drew his weapon.

He has been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation, officials added.

The shooting happened at about 02:30 local time (07:30 GMT) on Saturday morning.

Although it is edited, the body cam footage does not appear to show the officers identifying themselves as police.

It does not show footage from inside the property but includes images of a weapon that police say they found inside the bedroom.

It is unclear if Ms Jefferson was holding a weapon at the time, but firearm possession is legal for people aged over 18 in Texas.

Police said officers provided emergency medical care to Ms Jefferson at the scene, but she was declared dead at the property.

'Playing video games'

The 28-year-old had been playing video games with her nephew before she went to investigate the noise outside at the window, according to a lawyer representing her family.

"Her mom had recently gotten very sick, so she was home taking care of the house and loving her life," lawyer Lee Merritt said on Facebook. "There was no reason for her to be murdered. None. We must have justice."

Ms Jefferson was a university graduate who was working in pharmaceutical equipment sales, he added.

The shooting comes less than two weeks after an off-duty Dallas police officer was jailed for shooting a black man, Bothan Jean, dead in his own apartment.

Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke, himself from Texas, has spoken out about Ms Jefferson's death.

"As we mourn with Atatiana's loved ones, we must demand accountability and promise to fight until no family has to face a tragedy like this again," he posted on Twitter.

The National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People (NAACP) labelled Ms Jefferson's death "unacceptable".

Neighbour James Smith, 62, said he had checked the property himself before calling police, but failed to spot movement inside.

"I'm shaken. I'm mad. I'm upset. And I feel it's partly my fault," Mr Smith told the Star Telegram newspaper about requesting the welfare check. "If I had never dialled the police department, she'd still be alive."

Source:

http://bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50032290

Everything smells bad about this for the cop.

The neighbor called for a welfare check. The front door was wide open. She was playing video games with an 8 year old at 2:30 in the morning?

Was the cop thinking there was a break in or home invasion? What the video game a shooters game?

A welfare check would have sent him to the front door not a backyard window. That would insinuate he was thinking their was some illegal activity going on.

The media is going to tell you what fits their narrative. The cops are going to tell you whatever fills their narrative. Too bad we do not have real reporters anymore that want answers to questions instead of just repeating AP and Reuters.

[4dude]

Yea it doesnt seem right,something about this.....

HOW CAN SHE NOT REALISE ITS NOT HER HOUSE??? -- She must have been stoned to hell!!!

[ghost2509]

Dallas dismissed from lawsuit over police shooting

yahoo.com
AP
Dec 26, 2019

DALLAS (AP) — A federal judge has ruled the city of Dallas is not liable for an off-duty police officer fatally shooting a man in his own apartment last year.

On Monday, U.S. District Judge Barbara Lynn dismissed the city from civil lawsuit that the family of Botham Jean brought after the 26-year-old was killed by Amber Guyger.

The ruling leaves the 31-year-old former officer as the sole defendant in the suit, which argues she used excessive force and that better police training could have prevented Jean's death. It makes a large financial settlement unlikely.

In her brief ruling, Lynn wrote that she was upholding a magistrate judge's decision and dismissing the city because the suit failed “to state a claim upon which relief can be granted."

Guyger was found guilty of murder for Jean's death and sentenced to a decade in prison in October. She testified at trial that she mistook Jean's apartment for her own on the floor below and thought he was an intruder.

Jean, an accountant from the Caribbean island nation of St. Lucia, had been eating a bowl of ice cream when Guyger entered his home and shot him.

His death drew national attention for its unusual circumstances and as one of several prominent killings of black men by white police officers.

A lawyer for Jean's family did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday.

[mrpoopybut]

Originally Posted by alexora

Maybe the motive is quite futile: Guyger's background is what some might, unkindly, call 'white trash': she grew up in relative poverty, while Botham Jean was a Harvard man, with a successful career at PricewaterhouseCoopers, the second largest professional services firm in the world.

Perhaps she just hated the fact that a black immigrant was doing better that she did and flipped...

How is he doing better if they live in the same apartment complex?

[alexora]

Originally Posted by mrpoopybut

How is he doing better if they live in the same apartment complex?

An accountant for PricewaterhouseCoopers working 9-5, Mon to Fri, earns more than a Dallas police officer working on a rota and on shifts.

He simply would have had more income at his disposal after paying the rent and by the time he would reach the age of 31 (the age of his murderer) he would most likely have moved on to a better home.

Amber Guyger could at best aspire to be made sergeant, while Botham Jean's prospects were more promising (he was only 26 and already working for a world leading financial company).

[mrpoopybut]

^Right, but at the time of his death he wasn't doing better than her, as they lived in the same place. So your supposition that jealousy caused the killing seems unlikely given she knew nothing of his circumstances.