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Old 6th June 2017, 00:47   #61
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Certainly in "Genesis of the Daleks", the Kaled military resembled Nazis, the very young General's attitude about "total extermination of the Thals", the uniforms, Nyder and his black-shirted security troops....

And Terry Nation, the creator of the Daleks, often stated that the Daleks were based on the Nazi's.
And since the creator says it's so, I'm inclined to also think that it is so.



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I am surprised that you didn't pick up on the reference to their being only 12 monks and the relationship between Jesus and his Disciples. Doctor Who has always touched upon religious and moral issues. The BBC were worried that the Daleks might be interpreted as NAZI's. Tom Baker as The Doctor had a moral dilemma in the episode Genesis of The Daleks when he could have destroyed them for ever. I fear that too many people are trying to read too much into these story lines instead of just sitting back and enjoying some classic Doctor Who.

In the history of the show, I dont' recall religion being put on display during the series quite like it has been in these last few episodes. Even before the Monks showed up, when the Doctor was dealing with the giant fish, religion was brought up.

As for the 4th Doctor having a chance at wiping out the Daleks, that was not a religious thing, that was a moral thing.



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In the history of the show, I dont' recall religion being put on display during the series quite like it has been in these last few episodes. Even before the Monks showed up, when the Doctor was dealing with the giant fish, religion was brought up.

As for the 4th Doctor having a chance at wiping out the Daleks, that was not a religious thing, that was a moral thing.


And so was slavery! I still think that people need to take a chill pill and enjoy some classic Doctor Who. The last series was dire!
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In the history of the show, I dont' recall religion being put on display during the series quite like it has been in these last few episodes. Even before the Monks showed up, when the Doctor was dealing with the giant fish, religion was brought up.
Religion has always been something of a target for the program, though I don't know why.

The last Doctor had hundreds (possibly thousands) of Headless Monks, a Militant Roman Catholic church (complete with a Papal Mainframe), Weeping Angels, a dark god that wanted to eat the entire universe, a town called Christmas (though unlike the present doctor no actual Father Christmas).

The one before that had Satan himself turn up. Difficult to top that one...

I seem to recall the third Doctor had an encounter with demons. ("Jenkins, chap with the wings, three rounds rapid!")

The fourth one met the Osirans who turned out to be the Egyptian pantheon.

Weren't there some Atlantean gods too?

If you start including books, audio and comics there's a lot more.

(The Immortals turned out to be most of the earth gods - The Player.)

Lots of religion in Doctor Who when you think about it.
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Religion has always been something of a target for the program, though I don't know why.

Lots of religion in Doctor Who when you think about it.

I think I should have worded myself a bit better.

What I mean is that, during this whole season, they have pushed it to the front. Whereas, yes, there have been other times, but those haven't lasted a whole season.



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The last Doctor had hundreds (possibly thousands) of Headless Monks, a Militant Roman Catholic church (complete with a Papal Mainframe), Weeping Angels, a dark god that wanted to eat the entire universe, a town called Christmas (though unlike the present doctor no actual Father Christmas).
The one before that had Satan himself turn up. Difficult to top that one...
I seem to recall the third Doctor had an encounter with demons. ("Jenkins, chap with the wings, three rounds rapid!")
The fourth one met the Osirans who turned out to be the Egyptian pantheon.
Weren't there some Atlantean gods too?

But most of those turned out to be fodder for Giorgio A. Tsoukalos.


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I thought the 2 part episode in the Second Series of New Who, The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit had twice as much religion in it as any this year.
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I thought the 2 part episode in the Second Series of New Who, The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit had twice as much religion in it as any this year.

It's been awhile since I've seen it, but while I know some religion was tossed in, I seem to really only remember a scene where the Doctor mentions several religions to "Satan" during their short conversation when Satan first possessed the Ood.


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This weekend BBC America showed a bunch of Matt Smith episodes starting with his 1st (Eleventh hour). They Butchered the episode chopping parts of some conversations out just so they could add in more commercials. For instance they showed him trying an apple and next thing you know its fish fingers and custard. All through the episode they cut snippits of dialogue and pounded out the commercials instead. Made me sick to think about how they ruined it.
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And so was slavery! I still think that people need to take a chill pill and enjoy some classic Doctor Who. The last series was dire!

Actually, slavery was considered by many to be a religious thing. The idea was that they were bringing God to the savages. And slavery is mentioned throughout the bible with it seemingly being condoned in some cases.


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