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Old 13th November 2022, 00:40   #51
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lol. i still do all my colorizations by hand. didnt even know there was a neural color thingy. I just do it by layers and hand work.
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lol. i still do all my colorizations by hand. didnt even know there was a neural color thingy. I just do it by layers and hand work.
I do that too, alot.
But this new "Neural Colorization plugin" saves you alot of time.
It´s still not 100% perfect. You always have to fix a few details in
the picture, but it cuts down the time spent on layers and files.

The images I posted before, have NO after-work done to them,
so you can notice the imperfections, if you zoom in to look.
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need some of you color seeing people to give this a try at proper skin tones....
I have worked and worked on it and am never quite satisfied..
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frame of refence shots/this is what I would color match to cause she often looks this way/they could have shopped that shoot for effect or...slobbering now...rubbed her steller body with a toner to give her that color...also i would blend the white part on her chest, its prolly sweat (continues slobbering)
i still suck @this so icant even try
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Monica is standing in a pool of water covered in oil. That's why she looks shiny. I have lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of photos of her skin matching that way is how I usually do it. Unfortunately with the black background and being wet it doesn't look right. I'll post the original pic later lol, it's ridiculous. I'm sure that she started out with a nice tan in the original photo.

Maybe a "works in progress" thread would be a good companion to this thread, and more appropriate.
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Maybe a "works in progress" thread would be a good companion to
this thread, and more appropriate.
In my honest opinion, PLEASE let us not start another thread for
"Works in Progress" as we have so many threads with so many things.
We will just get lost in the forum.

I suggest to keep everything related to Tips and Tutorials in here and
also any works in progress... that way we can ALL help each other out
and give advice or suggestion on any works we are working on

............................................................

PART 1

About your image, Cylnz,
you have said you work with GIMP, but I only work with Photoshop.
Perhaps
our diferent image-editing programs might have the same features (?).
I am not sure, but try to do what I have done in my suggestions,
using your GIMP.

To start out, we must look at the image close-up.
Zoom in into it at around 300% or more and look at the details
and coloring.
Right away I noticed some "strange" wiggly lines on her body and other
areas. These remind me of someone who has "scars" from a previous
medical operation. This will not look good , on such a pretty girl model.
Also reminds me of that film with the girl from "The Bride of Frankenstein".

I used a small SMUDGE tool, set between 20% and 35% hard and slowly
went around in small circles to remove these "line scars" and blend them
into the surrounding skin. - I tried using other tools, but this was the
fastest and best way I decided to do this work.

Look at the black lines I have drawn on the image, and then look
close-up at your image. That is where the "scars" are located.
The image is in PNG format.


..........................................................

PART 2 -
- This only took me 15 minutes to work on. For better results, you might
need more time to do it.

Next step I enlarged the canvas slightly (picture size) to create the other
missing arm part.
I simply copied the other arm, placed it behind the girl-image , twisting it
to fit into the body ,
and then went to my RGB-Channels palette to color tweak the colors,
So as to match the other piicture. When it was done, I blended both images
by slowly erasing (with a very soft eraser tool) the top picture to
show what was underneath. This makes for a nice "Blending" of both
images which will match. DO this slowly and with a zoomed-in view to
look at all the little details.

Then I tried to give her the missing hair piece and fix a little bit the other
hair parts. If she has "wet" hair, then the hair being pulled back, might have a
look which I have decided on doing in the image posted below.

Next comes the overall color tweaks, which I was not too happy with.
It has this overall "too red" coloring.
The FACE seems to be much lighter and "blurred" in contrast to the rest of
the other parts in the body.

What to do?
Color fix and tweak the coloring to your desired look, then
cut out the face... cutting around the eyes, nose and lips.
Make a new face layer on top.
THese areas will need to have a much more sharpened effect and also made
slightly darker. This might look better with the other "darkned" areas
which are around her body.

After this , use an eraser and slowly erase the cut-out borders (around
the eyes, nose and lips) so it blends in with the skin and face in the other
layer underneath.

And that is all I did.



Another thing I would like to suggest is, when you make a cut-out of any
image, set your CUT TOOL border to be slightly "feathered".
Just a little blur on the border when you cut the image.
This will make your cut-outs much better looking without such sharp angles
and pixels. The overall CUT-OUT PNG will also blend in much better with
any other background you might use.

I have NO IDEA why my PNG image posted is showing these "strange"
backgrounds but I have a feeling it has to do with the image format of
the original image posted by Cylnz.
... My mistake, I should have looked at the image format to begin with.
It should be in RGB and in 8-bits.
It is in 16 bits, and might be better to work on it at 8 bits.
Also the cut out must be re-done with a feathered border for smoother cuts in
the overall image.
That way, no other "transparencies" or unwanted pixels in the image will show.

This is only my opinion - you decide what is best for you, and specially
the image you are working on. Diferent images, usually require diferent
working methods.

Give me a minute to see if this is the problem... I will cut out a new PNG image.
I will post it in 5 minutes.

I am back!
IMGBOX, must be freezing today and not uploading :P
I will upload it to ImageVenue ...

It seems the new image using 8-bits
and a cut-out usinga feathered-border cut-tool worked for me.
I have no idea, if you will get the same results using GIMP.
Give it a try.

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1. No problem on starting to get another thread.
2. Gimp is just an open source alternative to Photoshop
3. Nah, those aren't scars this is a working piece those are white balancing grain extract marks that I use to get lighting right. They don't appear in the final product.
4. I generally work anywhere from 18.2% to 800% depending on the size of the piece I'm working on. I run my monitors at 1920x1080 so these old eyes can actually see what's going on. I don't generally move up to a thousand percent or more unless I am actually working with individual pixel alphas.
5. All of my selections are done with a 1.5 Pixel feather. That keeps away the jaggies. I use a subpixel of .5 to keep things clean. The bass picture for this piece has an all black background, that is why the outline is heavy. I didn't remove all of the black because the finished piece is done in rather a Frank Miller style.
6. I simply exported this at 16 bit. I normally work with 32-bit floating point to take advantage of the processing power I have.
7. The cutout isnt the point, the XCF file I'm using is about 3,800 pixels high this is a reduction to post online and keep under the hosts limits while maintaining the alphas.
8. Thanks for the effort of recreating the missing part of the arm, but, it is there in the original picture but I have removed it since this piece will be at an edge. This is part of the problem of not working on an overall piece but asking for help on an individual article in that piece.
9. This is what I'm really asking about

"Next comes the overall color tweaks, which I was not too happy with.
It has this overall "too red" coloring.
The FACE seems to be much lighter and "blurred" in contrast to the rest of
the other parts in the body." I have 36 different versions of tones and colors of this one particular piece. I just cannot get happy with the skin tone. I've changed lighting, paths, channels, retinex, chromacity, pin lighting, soft lighting, Lumas, you name it. My frustration is how it ended up here asking for help lol

I'm doing this post on my phone so I have to flip back and forth and edit this as I go down your bullet points
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if youre offering I got two walls that need tweaking


i would like the watermark removed from the bottom right hand corner of the black picture and the background replaced on the one of the gorgeous model Marissa Miller
her background should be anything not white maybe abit darker to accentuate her stellar body thanks in advance
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here's what your marisa pic actually looks like when you remove the overpowered gamma and saturation to find the actual.



this gives us a place to start masking after we clean it up
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because I'm a lazy old bugger, I simply set our mask layer to lch colorwhich gives us this:



which is super easy to clean up and work on our mask...
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