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Old 18th November 2011, 16:07   #5811
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IMO:
Those who consent with web site’s limited access of free information [news-Medical data-general information on any topic..ect..],

Those who consent with web site’s limited access of free visual materials [comix- movies-TV Series-Shows..ect..ect..] are…?..

On the Wrong side of the River…

The Origin of Internet was based on the concept of Freedom and Free will and … Free Exposure for everyone.

Now the Internet it is under attack and has become a major source of greed, financial abuse, fraud, privacy violations’, advertisement ads and censorship…


For those: On the Wrong side of the River…

The key word here is “Free” Exposure…

And once the owners of these abusive and greedy web sites conclude they have enough victims (subscribers) for their sub-standard products. They begin to threaten, demand and legally challenge “free forums” like Planet Suzy…

For those: On the Wrong side of the River…
Put a stop to this free source form being corrupted…

Keep the Origin of a Free Internet alive….

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Old 18th November 2011, 19:34   #5812
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I suspect these posts will be removed pretty soon. That's usually what happens. But I can't resist this one.

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Yeah, I personally find the prohibited list stuff a little outrageous and that is why I personally use sites that say "F' you!" to prohibited lists when I am posting stuff.

These people are going to have to get used to the fact that:

1. If you post something on the internet, it is porn and you are trying to get paid for it? That isn't going to work too well.

2. If you post anything on the internet? It is going to get posted and reposted out the wazoo on numerous other sites.
I agree with some of the points you make (esp in your other post about how much some of these websites cost). However...

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planetsuzy was fun for a time, but I honestly feel that it is time to move on to somewhere else. Shame, because this site was my 'go-to' place for non-loli stuff for a time.
Clearly you were having so much fun that you forgot to click the thanks button. Because you don't appear to have thanked anyone in eleven months.
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Thanks for the comics, Boerny. Could you post the latest barbabes games, like the "wrath" one?
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No, I'm pissed that these people refuse to live in the real world, where it is 'If you put it on the internet at all (really make anything in real life, even if you are selling it in hard copies), it is going to be traded!"

I have no problem with these people trying to make a buck, but it's time for them to realize, as the MAFIAA needs to realize, that the people who 'pirate' their stuff usually would NEVER HAVE BOUGHT THE ACTUAL PRODUCT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Why? Too expensive for them to afford is the usual reason.

If these people offered 5-9 dollar a month subscriptions to their websites, THEN they could complain. However, most of them do... 30 dollars a month? Seriously? You think people are going to pay 30 dollars a month, adding up to 360 dollars a year out of the 20K average income (once you take out the multi-millionaire 1%) in the United States? And this is not just one site that you have to subscribe to but 20? Sorry, just not living in the real world here.
Think I'll pipe in here and say my nickle worths.

My site at Erotic Illusions runs $15 for the 1st month and then you get a loayalty reward rate of $13 a month after that.

Sorry I have no say in subscription fees and I have to split subscriptions with the host But it is cheaper than BDSMArtwork

I post 80-100 images a month compaired to BDSM Artworks 60-70 Images a month for 29.95 Euro or $40.50 per month..
Pricey ain't it? and for that price I can understand some of the griping going on.. Some sites do charge way too much for content.

Content is getting harder to display for free as more artist scan the web and do backward searches to locate where there stuff is being posted, and as stated in PlanetSuzy's TOS that we as artist have the right to request our stuff be removed.. and I give Planetsuzy accolades for abiding by the Internet rules regarding copyright infringement.. and not being a site that says F-you to orders of cease and desist.

Given ceretain circumstances, if someone had asked for samples images that could promote the sales of my comics I might have obliged. However 13 shortstories and or comics that were posted here ended up at some Russsian site who offered a catalog that clients could order from, place orders and have them burned on CD's for a set amount including postage and handling.

It's one thing to have my comics posted for free, but to have someone take that free content and make money from my work (besides myself) is wrong.. Yes I found out, yes I issued a cease and decist, and reported them to PAY PAL that shut down their transaction account..

BTW People do read and buy my work because I keep my prices fair and give them plenty of content in each and every comic I sell.. To date.. 1650 copies of my stuff have been purchased. For some that may not be a lot.. but for a stuggling artist, it helps me to buy new props software and a computer to keep me going

I am a realist and do know that I cannot stop everyone out there but I can at least try..


Regards... someone trying to make a buck
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Guys I know what you are saying ect...
But on Phun.com there was a thread a lot like this one and it was canceled by the moderator because he got tired of all the BI--HING!
If you want to argue about the problems ect on this thread go to yahoo messenger and yell at each other.
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Perhaps the answer is for pay sites/artists to send custom exclusive art (or an occasional mini comic) to Boerny to put on this thread. That way the artist gets the exposure and the money, and Boerny and this thread gets the serious exclusivity it was built upon.

People who are happy to pay for more get more, people who aren't ...well, perhaps it's best to let Tinkerbell spell it out...



Dem boobs..
This would be something worth considering..
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I will not point my fingers around but there are to many paysites that advertise there good pictures and boast with big numbers where most of the content isn't worth to watch. It's everybodies right to make such sites but I prefer commission-based art.

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Perhaps the answer is for pay sites/artists to send custom exclusive art (or an occasional mini comic) to Boerny to put on this thread.
That would be really cool!

(BTW: if you are waiting for more, click to my blog for another awesome 3D artist )
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Old 21st November 2011, 17:58   #5818
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LOL......it's eagerly interested to follow this discussion.....

and now my 2 cents......

you all know that 3D art is my hobby (I collect this content now for a very long time)...and thats wy I post it here. I know that it is not always good for the artist to see their work posted here for free...so sorry for that.....but I really do it for free...(just for fun) and I get no cent for it...( I know a lot of other sides who are not doing it that way...they make a lot of money with the work from the artist...and most of them did not even know it)

on the other hand...when I look how many people had view this thread until now.....thats more people as in complete New York live....

so it can not all be bad or wrong what I am doing here....

I get nearly every day some messages from Members here who ask me where I find all this content......thats easy...when you know where you have to search....sins we had the internet you can find nearly all and everything.

and a lot of new Members ask me very often where they can find more from this or a another artist....and I mostly give them the links to their Blog-sides.
(or sometimes pay-sides) so that they can get more of their great work...

The only thing that I want, as I start this thread here (with 20 Members..in our H/A section) to make the 3D art and 3D comics a bit more popular..even when it hurts sometimes a bit the artist.

A lot of people had never seen 3D art befor...and I also get a lot of messages from people who tell me then...that they have never notice that 3D art can be so great...and they enjoy and learn to love this 3Dcontent.

some may say it's not ok what I am doing here, because it cut's the income from some artists. Well..I accept this opinion...but you must also accept that the 3D art is a real big trend at the moment....it's much more popular as befor...and I think it's also a bit of my posts here that so many people are interested now in this 3D content.

11.000.000 viewer can not be wrong, and there will be also some who had subscribe to the artist sides until now.

As I said..I start with 20 Members here in H/A...now we are over 1000......and I hope there will be more in the future...

and to all artists...I know that I am sometimes a little rebel....but everything in this world had his price...and to get more popular means also sometimes to cut a bit the incomming. But I think as long you not lose to much...it will be ok.......

thats my 2 cent...

I love you all......Boerny......
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you have seen how it goes sometimes ?
one user give a shit to respect the artist wishes and now, he is on the blacklist (thesandman)

@ project_nemesis your lill fairy spoke true words ^^
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