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[>ThreeG<]

Originally Posted by OutOfMind

When they first started the draft, I thought we were going to see new "blood" for the shows. All they are doing is switching rosters. The switches do not even seem "random" by computer odds.
I thought Lesnar's demands/requests were out of line considering that one of the demands was that he appears on RAW when he feels like it. Did Cena ever say why he was late to the signing?
@SixG, was Lesnar more muscular? You said "he ain't the same size," he lost weight to compete in UFC, do you think that is the reason he lost size?

It looks like he lost weight, but still a big dude

[>ThreeG<]

Originally Posted by Alan Kellerman

Brock is seen as a special case at the minute. He has said he is not a WWE superstar, he plays by his own rules etc. I think his demands fit fine. His interview/promo skills don't bother me either, he is not the best, but he can still talk, he doesn't sound that scripted either.

Works for me.

Let's hope that he beats Cena up

[Absent Friend]

Lesnar lost muscle mass to compete in UFC, to move better. Also, I think his bout of diverticulitis made him lose some weight. Either that, or (I'm not claiming it's true), Lesnar going to a sport that has 0 tolerance for steroids, and very upfront about it, different than WWE. Not taking them, he loses muscle mass. I recall an interview Lesnar bailed on when he was asked if he took roids. Maybe he did during WWE, now he doesn't. Either way, he is notably smaller, but still looks big.

Thoughts on RAW.

1.) Teddy Long called Lesnar and Cena the main event. Dammit, I'm not big on that. Simply because while Lesnar being back is great, I have worries over his performance. Will it be worth the rumored 5 million dollars? Will he still be hampered by his life threatening diverticulitis battle? Will Cena work the stomach, his weakness? Out of rage? If out of rage, that implies Lesnar working too stiff. Will Lesnar work too stiff? All these questions, yet I have no doubts at all with Punk/Jericho, plus the added hometown advantage of CM Punk. Teddy Long shot himself in the foot, saying Cena is a former 2 times WWE Champion...and a former 10 time WWE Champion...huh? 2 time World Heavyweight Champion. Oh Teddy, hahaha. Cena's brought out, Lesnar actually didn't arrive to the arena. Long got scolded on his sloppiness. That was funny. Cena's last night on RAW? Holy shit, it's Jason Newsted! I mean, Edge! Shock and awe. Edge mentioned that his contract expires soon, which is true. Edge wanted to talk to the John Cena that feuded with him in 2006 and 2009. He alluded to guys like Andre, Bret, and Rock, not being the same after a big loss (Rock losing to Brock at SummerSlam). Edge painted Lesnar as a bigger heel than him aligning with Johnny Ace, by basically saying Lesnar is not WWE thick and thin, while Cena and Edge were. He's actually right. It's funny, Cena's hands was fiddling with his hat during his wakeup call, something different. That was awesome, but a different Cena? Let's not kid around, it's been the same Cena for 7 years, just tone down the ghetto talk and rapping overtime, and then PG. Still, same Cena.

2.) Jericho's jacket is brighter than the sun, it's so loud in appearance. Cole, it's not the Lionsault, it was the Walls of Jericho. He corrected himself, but technically, it was the Liontamer, but they won't say that. Jericho and Kofi got serious chemistry, what a great match. Very well paced, and Kofi really looked good in defeat. Kofi did a somersault plancha to Jericho, did a splash on Jericho's back, he pulled more punches. Jericho doesn't wrestle on TV and PPV a lot since returning, so this was a real treat. Both men worked a lot in house shows, so no question they can work together. Awesome use of the Codebreaker.

3.) Jericho cut a short promo saying he will be the new WWE Champion. He said Punk has an extremely alcoholic father, extremely this to his sister, extremely that to his mom. Jericho going to give him an extreme beatdown, and he got Punk a gift. World championship? It's the WWE Championship, so Long's not alone.

4.) WWE must've been smiling ear to ear over looking back at Lesnar's debut match...with Jeff Hardy. Hahaha! Good times. Eve has an administrative position with Johnny Ace. Who cares? They replayed Lesnar's promo video from last week. Jericho's gift to Punk was a liquor basket! Punk kept the Jack Daniels, but gave the rest of the basket to Josh Matthews. What the hell will he do with it? Nothing.

5.) Tensai spoke Japanese in a PIP interview. I guess he was happy he defeated Cena. There was a "Yes!" chant during a Tensai match. That makes sense, it was funny. Tensai squashed R-Truth, which is a step up for him in the squash department. He's heading for a feud with either Cena or Punk.

6.) Kane talked about how he liked the family reunion a couple weeks, and called Orton a scared little poppa's boy. He refered to himself as the monster Orton's scared of. Randall on the tron, and he had Paul Bearer in the same position he was in when he was written off TV in 2011: tied to a wheelchair. Didn't he fall off some platform by Edge? Paul Bearer was wheeled to what looked liked a big freezer, or gas thing chamber. I don't know, but Kane didn't care. What the hell was the point of that? Bearer came back alive, because his great fall would've killed him. Either way, the fans popped more when Orton came and attacked Kane. Just do that, no need for that other stuff.

7.) Alex Riley interrupted Jericho and said he saw Punk drinking, and they eavesdropped! Punk was drinking out of a plastic cup, with Jack Daniels next to the cup. CM Drunk! Yeah right. That was funny. Punk drinks Pepsi.

8.) Rhodes and Show got a rematch, but no stipulation yet? I find that funny. Big Show and Khali again, with Khali walking worse than ever, selling that little clip Cody pulled on him last SD. Khali stayed in the ring through commercial break, which had to be painful to watch for the fans. Show got the hot tag, and he fell over the rope courtesy of Rhodes. Very nice, and Show tweaked his knee. Rhodes being the Knee Killer? Cody Rhodes was doing a great job working Show's knee, including a Figure 4. The story of the match though was Del Rio ditching Rhodes, and Cody taking the pinfall? Huh? Oh man, not a good sign for Rhodes.

9.) Santino Marella and Miz on a Youtube preshow to Extreme Rules? WOW! Oh my God. Jericho snitched Punk out, and Eve explained that you basically can't drink in the venue. The hell? What about Stone Cold? By that logic, he'd be stripped of his 6 WWE championships in his career. Oh you got to love 3 hour RAWs, they have more space to do more animated, ridiculous stuff. A field sobriety test?! Johnny Ace told Long to give the sobriety test, and he mentioned JR's advice to him regarding getting someone else to deliver the bad news. I think that was a shot against JR, because that doesn't sound like something Ross would've done when he had Ace's job.

10.) Josh Matthews trying to interview Lesnar, but he threw Matthews like a rag doll! Hahaha! Commentary is now treating Lesnar like a heel, even Cole. It's clear WWE is trying to make Lesnar the top heel, going far to imply he's Anti-WWE, and Cena has to fight for WWE. Just like Rock, and what happened? He lost! Fine Lesnar 100 grand, because hitting Matthews is not as reprehensible as hitting a ref. HAHA!

11.) Hey, the fans should not chant "hoeski," Ryder didn't want that. Lumberjill match? Well, I get to see Kaitlyn and Maxine on RAW. Josh Matthews trended number 1 worldwide! Even funnier. There was no X thrown over for Beth's tweaking of the ankle when he dropped down from the apron to take on Nikki. There was a Diva fumble, and Nikki rolled up Beth for the win. So Beth's not going to break Maryse' record for longest reigning Divas champ, and Nikki is the champion. Close to their expiring contract date? I would've been more mad if Kelly Kelly costed Beth the match. This match wasn't good, Beth was fine. Kharma hyped up RAW before the show, and maybe this will lead to Kharma getting the title on Extreme Rules, still sending the Bellas packing. Either that, or something not good at all. Beth vs. Kharma? Please? I actually thought she would return in this segment. Remember, when Kharma announced her pregnancy, the Bellas bullied her. Finally, no shortsightedness? I hope so.

12.) Punk was acting drunk! Drunk off of Pepsi? Jericho interrupted Teddy Long getting the sobriety test underway. Did Punk say WWF? Oh, you know it's fake because they were right on the money in censoring. Stupid pandas. Punk couldn't recite the alphabets backwards, couldn't walk the straight line. The police say he's drunk, all the while Punk was acting like a goof. Punk is given a second chance after the police leave. He does everything right, revealing he's not drunk, all while moonwalking and doing the Flair strut, that red line. Funny. This feud's gotten more animated over the past couple weeks, to the point of being funny. Fine, but there won't be anything funny in their Chicago street fight.

13.) Now they had to be crying in laughter, when they recapped Lesnar owning Hogan 10 years ago. Why not? It was awesome. They didn't show the blood that was in the match though.

14.) Daniel Bryan is the special ref to Sheamus vs. Mark Henry! Now that makes him the best referee in the world! He's the best wrestler, and the best ref. Bryan and Sheamus had a longer talk than the match. It distracted Sheamus, Henry got the fastest count by Bryan, Sheamus got screwed! Bryan then walked away, got beaten on, but Henry came in the way of Sheamus, and Bryan jumped Sheamus with a kick, then the Yes Lock! God, that was the best segment of their whole feud, it's actually a feud! However, it's as good as fact that Sheamus is winning, but I can still enjoy it.

15.) Oh Taco Bell's doritos taco thing presenting some tag match? Please. Sheamus interviewed by Matt Striker, mad and all. What happened to the snakes in Ireland?

16.) Santino and Zack Ryder against the Colons. Wow, the Colons on RAW for more than one week. Tag champs lost again, Santino got the pin, Ryder got a great reaction. So is Ryder pissed or what? Santino no sold a drop kick and rolled back up to do a Cobra. No selling is bad!

17.) Kane is walking backstage, and checks into Paul Bearer. If you listen closely, there were "Woo woo woo" chants. This was taped during the Ryder match. Bearer put Bearer back into the freezer thing.

18.) The Colons are mad, and AW offered his business card to them? Hmmmmmmm. Interesting.

19.) Sponsorship deals, this might be something done more and could be inspired by Lesnar's deals being kept while in WWE. Brodus Clay and Hornswoggle again? Why? GRRR, Lawler can't help but make fun of Guerrero's outfit, and her age? You've gotta be fucking kidding me? Lawler's in his 60s. Dumbass. Vickie looked great, but that's my opinion. What's up with Horny's tattoos? Ziggler selling like a million bucks for Hornswoggle, he's that good. Vickie got in and slapped Clay, causing a DQ. All the funky people surrounded Vickie, but she offered Clay his hat back. She wanted to dance, but Vickie got bit by Horny. Molestation. Where was Ziggler and Swagger? They didn't want to be part of that crap.

20.) I bet WWE were laughing that they showed Lesnar vs. Angle at WMXIX, only showing Angle getting brutalized.

21.) Sheamus vs. Mark Henry again on SD? Get D-Bryan to ref it! Cole interviewing Randall? An RKO will make that good. They showed the promo on Lesnar again. They must've loved that a lot, maybe they will do that more. It works.

22.) Cena didn't come out on call, Lesnar thinks Cena's scared. Lesnar drew up a contract listing requests he needs signed off. Lensar saying how he matured, and that he's the face of the company. Laurinaitis has to run things through Lesnar, ride on Vince McMahon's jet, appear when and how he wants on RAW, no fines, more money paid to him. Sign off, or he won't wrestle Cena. No more Monday Night RAW, instead, "Monday Night RAW STARRING Brock Lesnar." Hehe, technically, it's RAW Supershow. Johnny Ace agreed. He signed the contract, Cena finally came out. He probably spent time getting his old school chain from out of his treasure box. Or, it was his birthday gift. Cena got his chain wrapped around his fist, Lesnar went into saying he's scared. Cena signed, both guys are cocked and loaded, the table is turned over. Lesnar laughed it off, no fighting! Wow, this contract signing is pretty unique.

[Karmafan]

The contract singing was one of the worst ever. It was a snoozefest and did very little to hype the PPV.

[>ThreeG<]

There's a lot of word going around that Brock n Cena match will end in a DQ, how dumb can they get, a DQ in a Extreme Rules match? It doesn't exist, the only outcome of this match, is that Brock beats Cena to the point of injury... and perhaps sending Cena away for good

Just remember how you started your post

''there's a lot of word going around''

translated = BULLSHIT

It's funny. I don't post on any other forums accept this one now. I typed worst wrestling contract signings ever into google . Quotes about how Brock is not Rock come up and shit like that haha.

I used to think I was harsh fan, but looking around and I'm not harsh at all. I'd say fair.

[burtog]

I watched more NHL hockey than Raw last night, but every time (and I mean that, literally every time) I tuned into wrestling it was either a promo or a pre-made video. Needless to say, that didn't make me want to stay tuned in.

And reading the results this morning, it looks like the two guys that I currently tune into to watch (Ziggler & Bryan - both Punk & Jericho are being wasted by bringing the 'alcohol' aspect into it, IMHO) were either wasted in a tag match with a midget or serving as a special referee. Ugh. If nothing else, I saved myself 3 hours by not tuning in. It wasn't long ago that I was super-into the WWE product, now it's one that can't keep my attention for more than a few minutes at a time.

In terms of Brock looking different: he used to be so chiseled & so jacked, and now he looks kind of frumpy. He's still strong as a mule, I'm sure, but he just does not look at all defined.

[Karmafan]

Seriously there are not alot of money matches in the WWE now. They are in serious need of new main event superstars. To bring Brock in and have him destroy Cena on Brock's 1st PPV since he came back as a wrestler would be a waste.

Of course it will end on a very unsatisfying result (DQ, 3rd party run in or some other such finish). I would not be surprused to find their feud continue to Summerslam.

I couldn't stay up and watch it. Especially being 3 hours. I fast forward through most of it today.

Brock Lesnar vs John Cena is head and shoulders above everything else at the minute. For what they are doing for with Lesnar, I think it has been spot on.

I'm happy it is Lesnar back and not somebody like Jeff Hardy or Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair or anybody else that is long past their prime. That wasn't a shot at TNA by the way, first 3 names that came into my head. Brock still has something to offer, a big name when WWE is light on big names. I guess it is a matter of him staying around and taking a few losses when this run is ending.

I'm heading into fantasy booking mode here. I'm banking on Brock Lesnar vs Undertaker at Wrestlemania 29 and it could be his first loss, it all goes back to that angle they did at UFC 121. I know people out there claim that Undertaker was there to talk about how he could have been in mma or something else I can't remember. Undertaker was there to make money with Brock Lesnar in the future.

Rock vs Cena 2 will main event WM29. Cena is going to lose every match for the rest of this year, and the start of next year. Rock returns and has sympathy for the Cena downfall he started. He gives Cena a chance to redeem himself at the grandest stage of them all. Cena accepts and wins and takes the WWE title the next night on Raw, he will beat champion Alex Riley.

Originally Posted by Karmafan

Seriously there are not alot of money matches in the WWE now. They are in serious need of new main event superstars. To bring Brock in and have him destroy Cena on Brock's 1st PPV since he came back as a wrestler would be a waste.

Of course it will end on a very unsatisfying result (DQ, 3rd party run in or some other such finish). I would not be surprused to find their feud continue to Summerslam.

Brock Lesnar will beat Cena at Extreme Rules. No doubt about it. ( funnily enough I said the same before Rocky vs Cena. I can't be wrong twice)

[Absent Friend]

A prediction I think is worth taking to the bank, is that Cena is not winning at Extreme Rules. There can't be a DQ because it's Extreme Rules, interference might happen, but I think the best possibility is Lesnar annihilating Cena. To the point where this could very well write Cena off of TV. One thing I always think about is how at Cena's position, the guy has to be playing hurt more often than not. If I am not mistaken, he hasn't had a serious injury since 2008, and other than a minor hip problem, he hasn't missed time in nearly 4 years. Also, he's 35 years old now, at best, he has 10 years left. At least, he has 5. This could be the way they finally write him out. Cena will fight, but actually lose as a result. That will send the crowd home happy.

Actually, the idea Alan mentioned of Cena losing until Rock gives him a rematch, makes sense. This means everyone who are tired of seeing Cena win, will be tired of seeing Cena lose. After all, some people can never be satisfied.

I'm just going to provide thumbnails to this, two images leaked of Hogan's sextape.