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[Rhino444]

Originally Posted by OutOfMind

At least Mysterio does not go around whining like Christian does for a rematch. Mysterio must have Known that his reign would not last long.
The "Quiet" Former champion earns my respect more every week than the "whining" former champion.
If it was not for this thread, I would not remember that Mysterio was a champion because he does not go around "complaining" for a title that he held, too.

Wait, what? You're seriously telling me you don't think Captain Charisma deserves.... ONE... MORE... MATCH... for the World Heavyweight Championship?

[Karmafan]

The Fabulous Moolah was women's champ for 18 years in a row.

[aza93]

Decided to give wrestling a watch for the first time in ages and have to say its a shame how poor it now is compared to the days i was a kid .

[SavageWolf]

Originally Posted by Rhino444

Wait, what? You're seriously telling me you don't think Captain Charisma deserves.... ONE... MORE... MATCH... for the World Heavyweight Championship?

Not only "No," "Hell NO." I remember that Whiner was going around crying in the ring after each match that he lost before he left to ECW. I did not think he deserved to be a champ there and much Less of a WWE Champ. Will he always go crying to his "legal team" to find another "Loop-hole" to get another rematch. I don't think the WWE should have a WHINER as a champion. When Flair lost a match, he would wrestle to get it back. I do NOT recall seeing Flair with his "lawyers" by his side.

[SaintsDecay]

Three months ago, Christian was living in obscurity and I had no clue how he had people that liked him enough to actually make signs for him. The character didn't deserve to hold any title, much less the World title, and he certainly doesn't now. He's a lot like Mark Henry in that respect-- he's been around a long time, but he never rose to the top for a reason. That reason on both accounts is spinelessness. Christian couldn't sell sugar to sweet if his life depended on it.

On the note of titles, I can't really say the number of times a person has held a title means anything anymore. That means that the title itself holds no weight, and that is dangerous. It doesn't mean a damn thing if Cena got the WCW--er, WWE title for a tenth time because pro-wrestling title reigns just aren't what they used to be. Now, the WWE has improved greatly over the past month or so, but the first thing it needs to do is bring legitimacy back to the brass rings.

[MrObsession]

Originally Posted by SaintsDecay

On the note of titles, I can't really say the number of times a person has held a title means anything anymore. That means that the title itself holds no weight, and that is dangerous. It doesn't mean a damn thing if Cena got the WCW--er, WWE title for a tenth time because pro-wrestling title reigns just aren't what they used to be. Now, the WWE has improved greatly over the past month or so, but the first thing it needs to do is bring legitimacy back to the brass rings.

The title meant something when Punk had it, blowing a kiss to McMahon, as he jumped the barrier in Chicago and ran through the crowd. Then in a week they set up the paper title tournament, crowned Mysterio, then had him lose it to Cena.

It was ok with Del Rio having the unified thing, relatively fresh, but established as a contender since January. But Cena winning it AGAIN, just as rio was growing into the role roesn't make a lot of sense.

And I'm going to step into the middle of all this heat for Christian and say, evidently, he's damn damn good. :P

[Colin_Work]

Originally Posted by SaintsDecay

Three months ago, Christian was living in obscurity and I had no clue how he had people that liked him enough to actually make signs for him. The character didn't deserve to hold any title, much less the World title, and he certainly doesn't now. He's a lot like Mark Henry in that respect-- he's been around a long time, but he never rose to the top for a reason. That reason on both accounts is spinelessness. Christian couldn't sell sugar to sweet if his life depended on it.

On the note of titles, I can't really say the number of times a person has held a title means anything anymore. That means that the title itself holds no weight, and that is dangerous. It doesn't mean a damn thing if Cena got the WCW--er, WWE title for a tenth time because pro-wrestling title reigns just aren't what they used to be. Now, the WWE has improved greatly over the past month or so, but the first thing it needs to do is bring legitimacy back to the brass rings.

I've gotta ask...how long have you been watching wrestling, not just WWE, but wrestling in general. Ever since he arrived in the company, Christian has always been a go to guy. In his first match, he won the the LightHeavyweight Championship and is one of the most winning Tag Team Champions in history with Edge and Chris Jericho being his most well known partners. He is also a former Intercontinental Champion...a title he defended in a great ladder match against Rob Van Dam. If it wasn't for a guy like Christian, the entire Money In The Bank PPV wouldn't even be in existance. Then after he moved to TNA, which while that isn't saying much, was the NWA TNA World Champion 2 or R times...I don't recall. Then after coming back to WWE, the ovation he got when he came back was almost Cena like. If there is one thing that Christian has always done is to be able to connect with the fans and whether he's a face or a heel, Christian will always be one of the top guys in the company, if not the business. Just the fact that he is now a 2 time World Heavyweight Champion proves that the office feels the same.

[SaintsDecay]

I've been watching since the mid-90s'. The first time I remember seeing Christian was when he was in The Brood, and I actually liked that character more because of the mystique. Over the past five years, though, I just haven't seen anything notable from him. I think the character blows, and I just haven't felt any sort of connection. Yeah, he can wrestle, but you have to sell your reasons for what you do to me. He can win any sub-teir title he wants, but he is lacking on the mic and that's why I don't like him. And I'm not saying that because of this ongoing nails-on-a-chalkboard thing with Orton-- I have never felt that he had any power on the mic. Now, that might be some sort of long-running act. I don't know. I don't know the guy beyond the character and I never claimed to. I just feel like he doesn't have the backbone to be at the top. Then again, no one on Smackdown's current main event roster does. You've got Mr. One-Dimensional Orton, Teddy Bear Henry, and Captain Plainface. This just sucks in my opinion because the WWE has talent that they should be pushing.

[Colin_Work]

Well thought out response! I've been a big fan of Christian's for a long, long time. For me personally, his in ring work and promo ability have always been second to none for me. He can play the cocky heel, the cowardly heel (like he is now) or the funny face. He is one of the last of a dying breed of guys in the company who have had the experience of working through different territories and not just the WWE developmental system. Christian as World Heavyweight Champion was something different and fresh from the usual Orton as champion and they put on a great series of matches.

[SavageWolf]

Originally Posted by Colin_Work

Well thought out response! I've been a big fan of Christian's for a long, long time. For me personally, his in ring work and promo ability have always been second to none for me. He can play the cocky heel, the cowardly heel (like he is now) or the funny face. He is one of the last of a dying breed of guys in the company who have had the experience of working through different territories and not just the WWE developmental system. Christian as World Heavyweight Champion was something different and fresh from the usual Orton as champion and they put on a great series of matches.

That is the thing that I liked about Christian,his "funny face." I guess, I would like to see a champ that stops "hiding" to attack the #1 contender, like when he and Edge were good tag team champions. I was looking forward to his being champion, but then this ugly-side appeared from out of nowhere. When he was a tag team champion, he held that title with pride, but as a single champ, he held it with his "legal team." He is a good-funny-mic-guy.