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Colin_Work · 2nd September 2011, 14:45

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Originally Posted by OutOfMind

It seems like it is Edge all over again. Isn't that the mark of wrestlers? To still be imitated after retirement? Like Stone cold's "What?" phrase that is still annoying Vince. It is not as true champion that steals it by "cashing" in a prize the way Del Rio did. CM Punk was never a champion to me because he did not win it legitimately in the first place. And then Del Rio has to go around beating up unsuspecting contenders after Cena won a match. Is this what the world is going to become? Just winning becausse the winner cannot fight.

How can you say that Punk never beat Cena legitimately for the WWE Title. He beat John Cena at the MITB PPV 1..2..3 in the middle of the ring for the Championship. When Vince and Johnny Ace came out to ringside, Punk had nothing to do with that. Cena LOST the title...plain and simple. Do you even understand what being beaten in the middle of the ring means? Just because Punk isn't a jacked up steroid freak like Cena doesn't mean that he isn't a legit Champion.

phcavan · 3rd September 2011, 02:53

kevin nash to wrestle again i can't hardly wait.....

wonder if he has any friends high up in the WWE?????

SavageWolf · 3rd September 2011, 03:03

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Originally Posted by Colin_Work

How can you say that Punk never beat Cena legitimately for the WWE Title. He beat John Cena at the MITB PPV 1..2..3 in the middle of the ring for the Championship. When Vince and Johnny Ace came out to ringside, Punk had nothing to do with that. Cena LOST the title...plain and simple. Do you even understand what being beaten in the middle of the ring means? Just because Punk isn't a jacked up steroid freak like Cena doesn't mean that he isn't a legit Champion.

Sorry for messing with your man.

Do you even understand that if you have a personal problem with something somone posts, you PM them the "cry-baby" stuff.

FREAKZILLA · 3rd September 2011, 09:47

Earlier this week, Wrestlezone had an exclusive report on Alberto Del Rio missing WWE events because he was in Mexico renewing his work visa.

PWInsider is now reporting that Del Rio has gotten his work visa situation taken care of and is in Puerto Rico for this weekend's WWE house shows.

Rollo2 · 3rd September 2011, 10:11

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Originally Posted by Colin_Work

How can you say that Punk never beat Cena legitimately for the WWE Title. He beat John Cena at the MITB PPV 1..2..3 in the middle of the ring for the Championship. When Vince and Johnny Ace came out to ringside, Punk had nothing to do with that. Cena LOST the title...plain and simple. Do you even understand what being beaten in the middle of the ring means? Just because Punk isn't a jacked up steroid freak like Cena doesn't mean that he isn't a legit Champion.

Keep it calm and nice Guys.

Sports/performers are discussable, but dont turn it into something which could
be worse. So keep it on a friendly level please

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Colin_Work · 4th September 2011, 00:55

All I was doing was asking a simple question about one posters opinion or view on the subject of wrestling. No one was getting hostile or as was said spouting of "cry baby" stuff. I was just trying to engage in an actual discussion about what this topic is about, not just copy pasting news from wrestling site and complaining about wrestling. The fact is, there is a chance for some great discussions on here about the sport we obviously all love...what's the problem with some discussion...heated or not? At least it would show some passion for the business.

FREAKZILLA · 4th September 2011, 01:41

Guys Guys Guys--lets not get all WWE on each other---lol

I have not read what the issue is but I know from past experience if it leads to a personal attack that is not wanted around here. A heated discussion about WWE is not a problem. I agree with discussion and all but if it gets to hit someone personal then thats not cool. If you guys need me to talk to Rollo I will otherwise lets just get back to WWE issues on this here thread.

4th September 2011, 05:30

I'm looking forward to the triple h vs cm punk match .

a lot of people I've been speaking to have mixed opinions. some think it will end in a no contest . some think triple h will destroy punk but not many think punk will win . the nash accidentally hitting triple h and costing him the match scenario is also there. I just don't know at the minute. actually I do . I think punk will pull it off.

with punk , it seemed like they got close to making a bonafide superstar. how many people beat john cena in consecutive pay per views ? none. however, they seem to have backtracked a bit. I didn't like how punk was portrayed last Monday, the vomiting thing was shit and was john cena all over ( I like john cena by the way ) then on smackdown triple h was making punk out to be some whiny bitch . the punk we saw leading up to money in the bank is the punk we all want to see, well I should think so .

if triple h beats punk then punk will not be that superstar . triple h is the boss so really punk should beat him, but this is triple h .

A win for cm punk against triple h would mean so much , especially to a jaded fan like me . and what does triple h gain from a win ?

Colin_Work · 4th September 2011, 07:03

I couldn't agree with you more, eagleeagle. What happens in the Punk v HHH match is very intriguing to me. Is HHH gonna put over a guy who ever since he stepped foot in the company he hasn't liked? Or is he gonna do the right thing for business and put him over. From what I have heard, this match was actually scheduled to happen at Survivor Series but because Nash has yet to be cleared to wrestle, they needed Punk to have an opponent. And since Del Rio is already occupied with Cena...who else is there for him to feud with right now who as far as skill on the mic goes, can compete with Punk? Not really anyone.

As far as other matches on the card go...I'm looking forward to what they are going to do with the Mark Henry v Randy Orton match. I've really enjoyed how Henry has been put over since the Draft. As a big, nasty mean, unstoppable force. Will Orton get the win at NOC? Most likely. He's WWE's Golden Boy...he's Randy Orton. I think the build up of Henry will have been a waste of time if Orton gets a clean win over Henry at the PPV.

Cena v Del Rio. I see Cena going over in this match, mainly because Cena won't lose three PPV main events in a row...that just doesn't happen. And also, Del Rio as champion, as much as I like Del Rio and his character...I don't know...it just doesn't seem right. I liked it when Del Rio's gimmick was that it was his "destiny" to be WWE or World Heavyweight Champion. Now he is. Now what? He kind of seems like a cat who is chasing and playing with a mouse and then once he caught it...what does he do with it now? I think as hard as these two work in the ring, it will turn out to be a good match. Match of the night, probably not...but a good match nonetheless. Cena seems like he has been working harder lately to prove he isn't just a couple punches, the five knuckle shuffle and an Attitude Adjustment with muscles. And that, in my mind, is a good thing. And Del Rio? Just watch him in their...he's a ring general. He knows how to rile the crowd up, shut them up and control the match. He has years of experience in the ring and has the ability to make Cena look amazing or like garbage. He has alot to live up to since the Cena/Punk matches from the last 2 PPV's have been called instant classics. Does Del Rio have what it takes to add his series of matches with Cena to that list? We'll see.

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4th September 2011, 00:55	#2187
Colin_Work Registered User Addicted Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 284 Thanks: 106 Thanked 563 Times in 261 Posts	All I was doing was asking a simple question about one posters opinion or view on the subject of wrestling. No one was getting hostile or as was said spouting of "cry baby" stuff. I was just trying to engage in an actual discussion about what this topic is about, not just copy pasting news from wrestling site and complaining about wrestling. The fact is, there is a chance for some great discussions on here about the sport we obviously all love...what's the problem with some discussion...heated or not? At least it would show some passion for the business.

4th September 2011, 01:41	#2188
FREAKZILLA Registered User Postaholic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8,667 Thanks: 101,281 Thanked 34,462 Times in 8,208 Posts	Guys Guys Guys--lets not get all WWE on each other---lol I have not read what the issue is but I know from past experience if it leads to a personal attack that is not wanted around here. A heated discussion about WWE is not a problem. I agree with discussion and all but if it gets to hit someone personal then thats not cool. If you guys need me to talk to Rollo I will otherwise lets just get back to WWE issues on this here thread.

4th September 2011, 05:30	#2189
Alan Kellerman Guest Posts: n/a	I'm looking forward to the triple h vs cm punk match . a lot of people I've been speaking to have mixed opinions. some think it will end in a no contest . some think triple h will destroy punk but not many think punk will win . the nash accidentally hitting triple h and costing him the match scenario is also there. I just don't know at the minute. actually I do . I think punk will pull it off. with punk , it seemed like they got close to making a bonafide superstar. how many people beat john cena in consecutive pay per views ? none. however, they seem to have backtracked a bit. I didn't like how punk was portrayed last Monday, the vomiting thing was shit and was john cena all over ( I like john cena by the way ) then on smackdown triple h was making punk out to be some whiny bitch . the punk we saw leading up to money in the bank is the punk we all want to see, well I should think so . if triple h beats punk then punk will not be that superstar . triple h is the boss so really punk should beat him, but this is triple h . A win for cm punk against triple h would mean so much , especially to a jaded fan like me . and what does triple h gain from a win ?

4th September 2011, 07:03	#2190
Colin_Work Registered User Addicted Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 284 Thanks: 106 Thanked 563 Times in 261 Posts	I couldn't agree with you more, eagleeagle. What happens in the Punk v HHH match is very intriguing to me. Is HHH gonna put over a guy who ever since he stepped foot in the company he hasn't liked? Or is he gonna do the right thing for business and put him over. From what I have heard, this match was actually scheduled to happen at Survivor Series but because Nash has yet to be cleared to wrestle, they needed Punk to have an opponent. And since Del Rio is already occupied with Cena...who else is there for him to feud with right now who as far as skill on the mic goes, can compete with Punk? Not really anyone. As far as other matches on the card go...I'm looking forward to what they are going to do with the Mark Henry v Randy Orton match. I've really enjoyed how Henry has been put over since the Draft. As a big, nasty mean, unstoppable force. Will Orton get the win at NOC? Most likely. He's WWE's Golden Boy...he's Randy Orton. I think the build up of Henry will have been a waste of time if Orton gets a clean win over Henry at the PPV. Cena v Del Rio. I see Cena going over in this match, mainly because Cena won't lose three PPV main events in a row...that just doesn't happen. And also, Del Rio as champion, as much as I like Del Rio and his character...I don't know...it just doesn't seem right. I liked it when Del Rio's gimmick was that it was his "destiny" to be WWE or World Heavyweight Champion. Now he is. Now what? He kind of seems like a cat who is chasing and playing with a mouse and then once he caught it...what does he do with it now? I think as hard as these two work in the ring, it will turn out to be a good match. Match of the night, probably not...but a good match nonetheless. Cena seems like he has been working harder lately to prove he isn't just a couple punches, the five knuckle shuffle and an Attitude Adjustment with muscles. And that, in my mind, is a good thing. And Del Rio? Just watch him in their...he's a ring general. He knows how to rile the crowd up, shut them up and control the match. He has years of experience in the ring and has the ability to make Cena look amazing or like garbage. He has alot to live up to since the Cena/Punk matches from the last 2 PPV's have been called instant classics. Does Del Rio have what it takes to add his series of matches with Cena to that list? We'll see.