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CrazedHarmony · 17th December 2017, 04:28

Kane actually got back his physique and I say that because the man was looking a little rundown and flabby before his last long break. But I agree with you, he might be in shape and I might find some enjoyment in his being around but do I honestly think the man should be having a run at or with the championship? No, not really. I think he could still be successful, still having some great wins and stuff, but I definitely think he should be aimed towards building up the new era of stars.

CrazedHarmony · 17th December 2017, 08:26

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Karmafan · 17th December 2017, 16:40

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Originally Posted by CrazedHarmony

Kane actually got back his physique and I say that because the man was looking a little rundown and flabby before his last long break. But I agree with you, he might be in shape and I might find some enjoyment in his being around but do I honestly think the man should be having a run at or with the championship? No, not really. I think he could still be successful, still having some great wins and stuff, but I definitely think he should be aimed towards building up the new era of stars.

Put Kane with a younger newer guy and have them run at tag belts. He gets a newer guy over AND also gets a chance to wear gold again for a while.

CrazedHarmony · 18th December 2017, 03:43

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Originally Posted by Karmafan

Put Kane with a younger newer guy and have them run at tag belts. He gets a newer guy over AND also gets a chance to wear gold again for a while.

They could certainly do that but they'd have to get over pretty quickly to make an impact in a tag team division that has some decent groups in it and they'd also have to get over quickly because of the last time Kane held the tag team belts with Daniel Bryan. Also I'm not opposed to Kane having a run with a singles belt, just not the Universal title. With the Intercontinental title on Roman he could easily go at that.

Rick Sanchez · 18th December 2017, 05:07

So fucking happy that AJ Styles retained against a guy that was a worse champion than Khali.

talltrekkie · 18th December 2017, 20:46

I'm surprised they didn't have the KO/Sami, etc match on last, it was getting all the hype leading into the show. Especially considering the finish would have been a crazy way to end a PPV. But in any case, top of the show Tuesday will be very interesting...

Karmafan · 18th December 2017, 21:07

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Originally Posted by talltrekkie

I'm surprised they didn't have the KO/Sami, etc match on last, it was getting all the hype leading into the show. Especially considering the finish would have been a crazy way to end a PPV. But in any case, top of the show Tuesday will be very interesting...

You don't put your Championship title match on under other matches on the card. It devalues the belt.

talltrekkie · 18th December 2017, 23:37

Hell in a Cell, Money in the Bank, Extreme Rules, Payback. Single brand cards where the top belt wasn't in the last match this year. 2 of those via omission(Lesnar) which is another argument, but there's recent precedent for having Styles/Jinder not be the last match.

Optically, it would be weird to have 'Clash of Champions' not have a title match last but there was a lot more hype each week going into the KO/Sami/Shane story than Styles/Jinder.

Love Buzz · 19th December 2017, 14:14

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Originally Posted by talltrekkie

I'm surprised they didn't have the KO/Sami, etc match on last, it was getting all the hype leading into the show. Especially considering the finish would have been a crazy way to end a PPV. But in any case, top of the show Tuesday will be very interesting...

Will it? I can see Bryan just claim Shane didn't count the three so he did quickly to uphold integrity and save Shane from his hothead behavior before he got hurt or some bollocks.

I thought the Clash was OK. Started off pretty decent, dragged in places, but wasn't as crap as most thought it was gonna be.

CrazedHarmony · 19th December 2017, 15:04

I'm honestly unhappy with the Kane vs Braun vs Brock triple threat at the Royal Rumble. I'm fairly certain Kane isn't winning this so either they are doing this to protect Brock by having Braun thrash Kane or they've learned from the last time Brock and Braun went at it and they're protecting Braun so he doesn't have to take the pin from Brock again but either way I'm very unhappy with this.

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CrazedHarmony Registered User Addicted Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 553 Thanks: 3,722 Thanked 1,418 Times in 427 Posts	Kane actually got back his physique and I say that because the man was looking a little rundown and flabby before his last long break. But I agree with you, he might be in shape and I might find some enjoyment in his being around but do I honestly think the man should be having a run at or with the championship? No, not really. I think he could still be successful, still having some great wins and stuff, but I definitely think he should be aimed towards building up the new era of stars.

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talltrekkie Registered User Addicted Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 749 Thanks: 1,529 Thanked 806 Times in 341 Posts	I'm surprised they didn't have the KO/Sami, etc match on last, it was getting all the hype leading into the show. Especially considering the finish would have been a crazy way to end a PPV. But in any case, top of the show Tuesday will be very interesting...

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talltrekkie Registered User Addicted Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 749 Thanks: 1,529 Thanked 806 Times in 341 Posts	Hell in a Cell, Money in the Bank, Extreme Rules, Payback. Single brand cards where the top belt wasn't in the last match this year. 2 of those via omission(Lesnar) which is another argument, but there's recent precedent for having Styles/Jinder not be the last match. Optically, it would be weird to have 'Clash of Champions' not have a title match last but there was a lot more hype each week going into the KO/Sami/Shane story than Styles/Jinder.

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CrazedHarmony Registered User Addicted Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 553 Thanks: 3,722 Thanked 1,418 Times in 427 Posts	I'm honestly unhappy with the Kane vs Braun vs Brock triple threat at the Royal Rumble. I'm fairly certain Kane isn't winning this so either they are doing this to protect Brock by having Braun thrash Kane or they've learned from the last time Brock and Braun went at it and they're protecting Braun so he doesn't have to take the pin from Brock again but either way I'm very unhappy with this.