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[Rick Sanchez]

Originally Posted by Ptenisnet

I feel a little bad for Randy Orton. He gets a lot of undeserved hate but I thought he was the best performer in the main event in spite of that nasty head injury he suffered during the match. Cena was clearly the worst. He was just lying on the floor outside the ring for the most part, came in the last minute, hit the AA and grabbed the titles. To make things worse, at the end of the match, I believe Michael Cole called Cena the greatest champion in WWE history. Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Psycho Man

John Cena didn't beat Ric Flair's record. He's an 11x WWE Champion, a 3x World Heavyweight Champion & the current WWE World Heavyweight Champion. That's 15 World Championships overall. If he ties or beats Flair's record, than I would worry.

He should beat it since he is so close. Time to move on.

Flair isn't the true king anyway. Most of his titles were won outside WWE. In WWE, Cena should be recognized as the greatest champion. His stats don't lie.

[Grandmaster_J]

Originally Posted by Ptenisnet

I feel a little bad for Randy Orton. He gets a lot of undeserved hate but I thought he was the best performer in the main event in spite of that nasty head injury he suffered during the match. Cena was clearly the worst. He was just lying on the floor outside the ring for the most part, came in the last minute, hit the AA and grabbed the titles. To make things worse, at the end of the match, I believe Michael Cole called Cena the greatest champion in WWE history. Pathetic.

Cena is garbage! I agree Randy Orton performed the best in this match and then Cena's boring ass comes in and gives two quick AA to win the match. Just an awful ending to an already boring match. Greatest champion in history my ass! He'll never sniff the greatness of the legends who broke their backs for those belts!

[Rick Sanchez]

TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if they do the cash-in on Raw tomorrow with Cena winning again like with Sandow last year. Oh, but Cena would just be ELEVATING Rollins...Just like he ELEVATED Sandow...Now instead of 1 gimmick he has unlimited gimmicks.

I don't like comparing era and champions from this era with the past. I don't have much to go on even if I wanted to try. From 1990 until now there are plenty that I preferred over John Cena. I know if you watched before then and the wrestlers you loved at the time, you might think Cena is not fit to lace their boots. You just never know. Who knows where Harley Race would be today. Maybe in NXT waiting to get called up. The call never comes.

I don't like Cena as much as I like Bret, The Undertaker, Stone Cold, Shawn Michaels, Hulk Hogan. The list goes on. None of them are here now. I'm not longing for the attitude era or anything.

You will not recognize Cena as the greatest champion and that is fine. If/when he does get the number and they have some big celebration I wont be bothered. I'll take Cena being the greatest champion ever over Stephanie and her ''Triple H is the greatest Superstar ever''

Originally Posted by Psycho Man

TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if they do the cash-in on Raw tomorrow with Cena winning again like with Sandow last year. Oh, but Cena would just be ELEVATING Rollins...Just like he ELEVATED Sandow...Now instead of 1 gimmick he has unlimited gimmicks.

I really hope not. Looking at the sun, there wont be a cash in. There might be a hint. I see him having this as long as the Ambrose feud goes on. Rollins can always rub it in his face. That shit never gets old. I was pulling for Ambrose tonight. A strange feeling.

Originally Posted by Alan Kellerman

He should beat it since he is so close. Time to move on.

Flair isn't the true king anyway. Most of his titles were won outside WWE. In WWE, Cena should be recognized as the greatest champion. His stats don't lie.

Ric Flair is "supposedly" a 16x overall World Heavyweight Champion (in WWE at least): 8x NWA World Heavyweight Champion; 6x WCW World Heavyweight Champion & a 2x WWE Champion. He's actually a 22x overall World Heavyweight Champion: 10x NWA World Heavyweight Champion; 8x WCW World Heavyweight Champion; 2x WWE Champion & 2x WCW International World Heavyweight Champion.

Originally Posted by TheShield

Ric Flair is "supposedly" a 16x overall World Heavyweight Champion (in WWE at least): 8x NWA World Heavyweight Champion; 6x WCW World Heavyweight Champion & a 2x WWE Champion. He's actually a 22x overall World Heavyweight Champion: 10x NWA World Heavyweight Champion; 8x WCW World Heavyweight Champion; 2x WWE Champion & 2x WCW International World Heavyweight Champion.

So the Ric Flair fans can still defend their boy and call him the greatest champion until John Cena gets to 23.

awk well. at least we are not tennis fans. I am, but on the tennis forum, some real sick fanaticism going on there. I just like watching tennis.

[Grandmaster_J]

Originally Posted by rippitydoo

1] I never think it's right to compare recent Champs to those of the '70s, etc. (I hated when they did that sort of things during Punk's outside of the idea to keeping it in reference with "...the modern era".) The business-style (pre-known outcomes, etc.) hasn't changed, but what the companies & athletes will do/former ask the latter to do has. (Want proof? Look at former WWE wrestler Chris Nowinski & what he's doing these days.)

2] I am not a Cena mark, but he is far from garbage. If Steph had booked Vickie against Orton (who The Authority had made/named "the face of the WWE"), on the other hand, Orton would now be getting Latino Heat in an unemployment line.

1) When you got idiots like Michael Cole calling him the greatest champion ever it just shits on past champions period imo. So how can you not compare when you hear crap like that, but I agree there shouldn't be a comparison.

2) Okay you're not a Cena mark and that's fine but tell me one thing that this guy does as a "wrestler" that keeps him from being garbage? To me he can't wrestle, he's a goofball on the mic, horrible seller, no in ring psychology, and gets booed everywhere he goes. Also them calling Orton the so called "face of the company" just insults our intelligence cause we know who really is.