19th June 2017, 22:08 | #1161 |
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I'm getting what you're saying guys, and to some extent you're right.
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But what I'm talking about is REAL rich dudes and seasoned mongers. Older educated guys (not your typical young wanker) with higher standards who can have any girl they want and/or are much more demanding, regarding and selecting with the girls they choose, and are looking for more than just sex with some trashy porn girl they probably don't know anyway. (Past 25, people are much less into porn and have no idea or don't care about who most of these girls are. Porn "fame" and attraction is essentially a young audience affair). You know... the "elite", "upscale" girls who "cater to the finer things in life" and are selling "heart", "brains", "authenticity", "empathy" and an "experience" There's a whole underground world out there these guys are part of, with "stars" on their own. |
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I can understand what leads certain people to do it, but paying a human being to let her/him have sex with you defies the very meaning and pleasure of sex, which anyway resides mostly in what happens before the act in itself. Call me an utopist but sex is supposed to be more than just a dick going in and out a vagina (or whatever orifice) before expulsing semen from the testicules. No direspect to anybody, and again I understand, but I can't imagine how you can have any kind of pleasure, having what is supposed to be an intimate, emotional, genuine and close relation, with a professional who is paid to be here and doesn't give one beat about you. |
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I'll offer an analogy if i may, basically there are mansions out there or super cars and some people can afford them and that's what they buy, most however cannot. So we have people who buy the basic models of both, a nice ordinary house or a nice day to day car, we then also have people who aspire to more so they buy a nicer car or a house in a better neighberhood. Basically your super rich aren't paying for a relatively famous porn star (charlie sheen and one or two others aside) instead like you say they go for the high class or even more famous utr escorts (hell yachting and Dubai you can see who they are), you then have the ordinary joe who has a few quid and goes to a street hooker or escort agency or whatever. There are then those people who may have done that, may visit agencies or whatever and they then get the chance to do a porn star for a larger but affordable price, these guys are never getting the top shelf utr models, so instead they live their fantasy by doing a porn star they may have watched or jerked off to. Is it a large percentage of people, no, but it's obviously enough that a lot of porn stars get clients, hell years ago feature dancers in strip clubs used porn for this very thing, to raise their profile and by extension their rates. We can all go i wouldn't pay x to fuck y all we want, but there are enough people out there who would and do, so que sera sera as they say. |
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What seems awkward to me is knowing that, no matter what kind of interaction they're looking for, they're just a walking wallet and that, not only the girl has zero interest for them, but most of the time despise them. Everything is fake from A to Z, even if a lot of them think that "something" happened. The girl made her job, I guess. People who want to get vaccinated should go on an hookers forum and see what they really think of their clients... Brutal. |
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20th June 2017, 17:26 | #1166 | |
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I was just responding to the poster talking about 500k-1M guys to indicate, like you also did, that those were not necessarly the ones aiming at porn girls. And that you're not thinking (with all due respect) like a young porn fan, when you're a 50 yo CEO. You're right, pornstars get their clients, even if like with everything in this industry, there's a lot of smoke and mirrors and they're not making the millions they like to claim. Specially with the ultra-professionalisation of escort agencies and modern hookers marketing themselves just like pornstars nowadays (without the trashy part). Regarding the "dream" of banging a PS... It's up to anybody I guess. I could understand it, if you talk to me about 90's or 2000's girls who still had somehow that image of mystery and inaccessability to them (illusion of course). But today's girls, that you can see bitch or ask for money on Twitter (when you don't know what they had for breakfast), launch GoFraudMe's, being busted for this or that, being sold with their price on hookers online agencies... Some of them barely leave the hotel room for the entire day when they're touring... "JOHN#7, PLEASE !!!" |
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For many, the use of sex workers is for a lack of some of that. There are some that have trouble finding partners, or need to just get the act of sex out of the way so they can focus on finding a life partner. Some go because they know they can pay someone to be willing to do things the person they love aren't willing to do certain things, or some have hang-ups about treating their wife or whomever as a whore. Some people actually build a connection with a certain sex worker they frequent (whether that is reciprocated who knows). So there are many reasons why sex work is supposedly the oldest profession, and will never have a lack of customers. Like you said, a lot of people don't find it to make sense, but it is what it is. Sorry for the off topic diatribe. |
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20th June 2017, 20:01 | #1168 |
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@RealC, i do think we're pretty much on the same page.
The thing is if you believe the gossip, there are anything from c-list celebs to A-list celebs either Yachting or going on trips to place like Dubai under cover of work which are supposedly nothing more than highly paid escort trips. Some of these are people maybe i or you would consider attractive or maybe if money were no object you'd pay for sex with, others not so much, some of them are so low on the celeb totem pole that you'd wonder why anyone would pay money for them. A couple of alleged examples Lindsay Lohan supposedly makes her living completely by this although her prices have dropped considerably as her looks and fame have diminished, while Miranda Kerr was supposedly paid a couple of million a go by some Asian dude. For me i wouldn't pay anything for Lohan now and certainly wouldn't pay seven figures for Miranda Kerr, but apparently some people are willing to. Which brings me back to the Porn star escort and their prices, despite everything you say about money grabbing etc, i can see why someone would pay for their fave porn star, the same as they would given the chance of their fave celeb, even though they could possibly find more attractive women for free or the same prices. At the end of the day it really comes down to cash and how much of it you have, if your oil rich, then spending whatever on whoever wouldn't matter in the slightest to you, if your on a very limited budget you take what you can get, the thing with Porn Star escorts though is for the average joe they are attainable whereas the others will more than likely remain fantasy. One last point, in Europe the prices for Porn Star escorts is more in line with the prices for ordinary escorts, yes there its slightly higher but not like it is in the states, when you see who is available and for how much in Europe it really does make it very attainable if that's your wish. |
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That's honestly the thing that surprises me the most nowadays. That impression that you may have sometimes that any girl is "available" for the right price. When you see the number and the "type" (real models) of girls whoring or caming... It might be hard in the future not have a girlfriend who has some vid, somewhere or was hooking at some point. (I know it's a mass effect but still...).
Yes, people are paying for the "fame" (which does nothing for others), or if you prefer "illusion". But I think that with porn girls, it goes further than that. Some people develop a real affection and attachment for their porn crush, sometimes even more. And that's why they're ready to spend those ridiculous rates (and ends up usually disappointed). Smart hookers have understood that and are also trying to create that emotional dependence. Grab dudes by the heart rather than the balls... Much more rewarding in the long term. The discrepancy between hot "famous" eurobabes (except for a few ones) and US (even anonymous) girls is indeed very beffudling. Law of offer and demand I know, and they're also much less active from a marketing point of view, but still... Gives you really the impression that US mongers get fleeced or just maybe that they're are more fascinated by "celebrity". It's also true that eurobabes mostly come from Eastern Europe and their clientele more from foreign countries (western Europe and Dubai, essentially) so it might not be as special than banging someone from your own country, I don't know. |
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Hiring a prostitute isn't about intimacy...it's intimacy avoidance. You don't have to know a thing about them or they you. The only thing that has to happen is you find them appealing. It's about busting a nut with someone rather than alone. It's about having physical fun with someone with no strings. So while I can respect your old-fashioned view on sex, that doesn't apply to many men. Geez, I had many one night stands and I can assure you a few of them left a lasting impression on my sexual psyche. |
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