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So - apparently Dana White prefers Khabib V Ferguson over a Khabib/McGregor rematch. I'm surprised but pleased if it's true.

Conor McGregor immediately called for a rematch following his fourth round loss to Khabib Nurmagomedov at UFC 229. It doesn’t seem like something the champion’s camp is interested in, and apparently Dana White agrees.

After initially denying rumors about offering Khabib big money for a rematch, the UFC President also now claimed that he prefers Tony Ferguson gets the next title shot as well.

“I haven’t even thought about a [McGregor] rematch,” White told ESPN. “Obviously, I know Conor wants a rematch. We need to do what’s right and what’s fair. We’ll see how it plays out. We literally haven’t thought about it yet.

”... As a fight fan, you’ve got to go with Tony. Tony had the belt, tweaked his knee, got stripped, this fight happens -- Tony never lost the [interim] belt in a fight. Neither did Conor, but Conor got the opportunity to actually fight [Nurmagomedov]. I think Tony deserves the next shot.”

Khabib and Floyd Mayweather also have been hinting at a bizarre prospect of having a boxing match, and it is the kind of talk that Dana White says that we should all not pay attention to.

[L-Kabong]

Speaking about "going over the fence" ... Do you all think that the UFC is finally thinking about putting some sort of top over the cage? Sort of like the cage matches in the (Fake) Professional Wrestling like the WWE? I mean that have got to start thinking about some way to prevent guys jumping up there or climbing up it then jumping off the top rail and other stunts.

While not quite the same thing I wondered the other night as I watched Legacy Fighting that the cage was not the same as the UFC and there is another MMA company that has a curcle cage, made me think about the actual size in the fighting area, and the mat the fighters are on. IS there some sort of regulation in the overall Sanctioned MMA rules that says the fighting area has to be X number of feet inside the area, and the mat has to be made of X material and padding has to be X amount?

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Originally Posted by L-Kabong

Speaking about "going over the fence" ... Do you all think that the UFC is finally thinking about putting some sort of top over the cage? Sort of like the cage matches in the (Fake) Professional Wrestling like the WWE? I mean that have got to start thinking about some way to prevent guys jumping up there or climbing up it then jumping off the top rail and other stunts.

I doubt they would give any kind of a roof to the octagon. Even thin netting or fencing materials would obstruct the cameras too much. They would also have to raise it up much higher to cope with guys like Stefan Struve:

A roofed octagon would have to be 11 maybe 12 feet tall to allow for guys like Struve taking a running jump . Personally I don't think the UFC really care all that much about guys jumping on or out of the ring - if at all. It's almost a tradition at this point.

Originally Posted by L-Kabong

While not quite the same thing I wondered the other night as I watched Legacy Fighting that the cage was not the same as the UFC and there is another MMA company that has a curcle cage, made me think about the actual size in the fighting area, and the mat the fighters are on. IS there some sort of regulation in the overall Sanctioned MMA rules that says the fighting area has to be X number of feet inside the area, and the mat has to be made of X material and padding has to be X amount?

I'm pretty sure there's no officially sanctioned size or shape for MMA fighting enclosures. The UFC will actually use different size octagons for different events. As far as I know the UFC owns the "intellectual property" of the design of the eight sided enclosure, and the use of the word "octagon" when it comes to MMA fights. So other organizations can't use an eight sided enclosure, or even use the word octagon when referring to their events without the express permission of the UFC. They can use any other cage design they want. Clever dicks the UFC.

[L-Kabong]

Yeah I had heard of that before my self, referring to the "Octagon"

I believe another company claimed rights to "Decagon"

It just made me wondered what was regulated and what was not, it just seem to be to be a logical thing to do is to regulate the square footage inside the cage and the type of mat and floor that is being used. I say this because at some point something might happen (fighter gets injured or complains about a loss) due to the type of mat or surface that was in use. The same thing happens in the NFL, I vividly remember a game being called off due to the playing field being very poor, joints too wide and such.

I still think that one day one of the camera guys will accidentally drop his camera in the ring while a fight is happening live. LOL

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Originally Posted by L-Kabong

Yeah I had heard of that before my self, referring to the "Octagon"

I believe another company claimed rights to "Decagon"

It just made me wondered what was regulated and what was not, it just seem to be to be a logical thing to do is to regulate the square footage inside the cage and the type of mat and floor that is being used. I say this because at some point something might happen (fighter gets injured or complains about a loss) due to the type of mat or surface that was in use. The same thing happens in the NFL, I vividly remember a game being called off due to the playing field being very poor, joints too wide and such.

I still think that one day one of the camera guys will accidentally drop his camera in the ring while a fight is happening live. LOL

I just found these specs on the UFC website:

A. Mixed martial arts contests and exhibitions may be held in a ring or in a fenced area.

B. A ring used for a contest or exhibition of mixed martial arts must meet the following requirements:

i. The ring must be no smaller than 20 feet square and no larger than 32 feet square within the ropes. One corner shall have a blue designation and the corner directly opposite must have a red designation.
ii. The ring floor must extend at least 18 inches beyond the ropes. The ring floor must be padded with ensolite or similar closed-cell foam, with at least a 1-inch layer of foam padding. Padding must extend beyond the ring ropes and over the edge of the platform, with a top covering of canvas, duck or similar material tightly stretched and laced to the ring platform. Material that tends to gather in lumps or ridges must not be used.
iii. The ring platform must not be more than 4 feet above the floor of the building and must have suitable steps for the use of the unarmed combatants.
iv. Ring posts must be made of metal, not more than 3 inches in diameter, extending from the floor of the building to a minimum height of 58 inches above the ring floor, and must be properly padded in a manner approved by the Commission. Ring posts must be at least 18 inches away from the ring ropes.
v. There must be five ring ropes, not less than 1 inch in diameter and wrapped in soft material. The lowest ring rope must be 12 inches above the ring floor.
vi. There must not be any obstruction or object, including, without limitation, a triangular border, on any part of the ring floor.

C. A fenced area used in a contest or exhibition of mixed martial arts must meet the following requirements:

i. The fenced area must be circular or have at least six equal sides and must be no smaller than 20 feet wide and no larger than 32 feet wide.
ii. The floor of the fenced area must be padded with ensolite or another similar closed-cell foam, with at least a 1-inch layer of foam padding, with a top covering of canvas, duck or similar material tightly stretched and laced to the platform of the fenced area. Material that tends to gather in lumps or ridges must not be used.
iii. The platform of the fenced area must not be more than 4 feet above the floor of the building and must have suitable steps for the use of the unarmed combatants.
iv. Fence posts must be made of metal, not more than 6 inches in diameter, extending from the floor of the building to a minimum height of 58 inches above the floor of the fenced area, and must be properly padded in a manner approved by the Commission.
v. The fencing used to enclose the fenced area must be made of a material that will prevent an unarmed combatant from falling out of the fenced area or breaking through the fenced area onto the floor of the building or onto the spectators, including, without limitation, chain link fence coated with vinyl.
vi. Any metal portion of the fenced area must be covered and padded in a manner approved by the Commission and must not be abrasive to the unarmed combatants.
vii. The fenced area must have two entrances.
viii There must not be any obstruction on any part of the fence surrounding the area in which the unarmed combatants are to be competing.

Seek and you shall find. You can see all the rules in their glory at ufc.*com/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations#3. Remove the * from the URL. You'll see the "Commission" mentioned a lot, so I would guess that the overseeing commission would carry out a prefight inspections to ensure the ring complies with the rules.

[L-Kabong]

Let the bets begin, do you think Derrick Will win or not?

I like Derrick Lewis a lot, but this has to be one Daniel Cormier easier fights. So, many ways Cormier can win, where Lewis has to get a lucky punch to win. So, no free eats from 2-4 on Sunday. I hope Lewis wins thou!

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Originally Posted by L-Kabong

Let the bets begin, do you think Derrick Will win or not?
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It's one of those fights that if I were a betting man I wouldn't put a bet on it.

Having said that, I'm leaning a bit towards Cormier - but that's not a done deal by any means.

[L-Kabong]

Okay it's Tuesday and perhaps it's okay to discuss the Fights on UFC 230 that happened this past Saturday?

I think it's safe to say that the main fight was a bit disappointing, and even looked somewhat staged. It sure looked to me that it was a bit like a WWE fight were it looks like it was predetermined what was to happen, not saying that it actually was of course but man DC took Lewis down very easy and if it was that easy to take him down then why didn't other fighters do it when they were in a match against him.

The other thing that came to mind was that they (UFC) wanted to appease both the fighters and the fans that wanted to see this matchup and give DC a match before he fights the "JUICED" up Brock Lesner (a match Brock is very likely to win). I like DC but let's face it Brock is HUGE and he's always using PID's which is going to make him difficult to beat.

The Weidman Vs Souza was shocking and I can see why Souza was upset with the referee, it was a late stoppage, but I can also see that the referee was out of position to see what happened and thus could not tell how bad Weidman was hurt until he got a close look at him.


Israel Adesanya Vs Derek Brunson was good to see but hated how cocky IA was and wished someone would crush him and put him in his place but looking at how McClucker (Conner McGregor) looses fights and it doesn't diminish how arrogant and cocky he is, I really don't think it will change him much.

There are just too many fighters these days that are way too arrogant before they have proven anything lasting in the ring to show that they are that damn good. It seems to me that many think they are great long before they even earn a title shot. Look I'm all for having confidence but many take it 10 steps farther then simple confidence.

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Originally Posted by L-Kabong

Okay it's Tuesday and perhaps it's okay to discuss the Fights on UFC 230 that happened this past Saturday?

I think it's safe to say that the main fight was a bit disappointing, and even looked somewhat staged. It sure looked to me that it was a bit like a WWE fight were it looks like it was predetermined what was to happen, not saying that it actually was of course but man DC took Lewis down very easy and if it was that easy to take him down then why didn't other fighters do it when they were in a match against him.

The other thing that came to mind was that they (UFC) wanted to appease both the fighters and the fans that wanted to see this matchup and give DC a match before he fights the "JUICED" up Brock Lesner (a match Brock is very likely to win). I like DC but let's face it Brock is HUGE and he's always using PID's which is going to make him difficult to beat.

The Weidman Vs Souza was shocking and I can see why Souza was upset with the referee, it was a late stoppage, but I can also see that the referee was out of position to see what happened and thus could not tell how bad Weidman was hurt until he got a close look at him.


Israel Adesanya Vs Derek Brunson was good to see but hated how cocky IA was and wished someone would crush him and put him in his place but looking at how McClucker (Conner McGregor) looses fights and it doesn't diminish how arrogant and cocky he is, I really don't think it will change him much.

There are just too many fighters these days that are way too arrogant before they have proven anything lasting in the ring to show that they are that damn good. It seems to me that many think they are great long before they even earn a title shot. Look I'm all for having confidence but many take it 10 steps farther then simple confidence.

I agree the main event wasn't that great from a spectator point of view, but it went more or less the way I thought it would. There's no denying DC's skills, but they're just not skills that I really like to watch. I love a good ground fight when it's jiu jitsu based, but when it's wrestling based I find it very claustrophobic. I guess the reason that nobody else has taken Lewis down like that is there's nobody quite like DC. As for DC v Lesnar, personally I think DC is the favourite. He pretty much dominated Josh Barnett when they met in Strikeforce, and Barnett is a BIG dude. OK Lesnar may be bigger, but he'll also be dealing with a significant weight cut to get down to 265lbs.

Souza v Weidman was a terrific fight - shame it ended the way it did. No question that Dan Murgliotta got it waaaaaaaaay wrong. Some would argue it's his job to be in the right position. Having said that we all make mistakes. Yes!!! Even Me!!!

Hehe - I quite like Israel Adesanya!!! Sure he's cocky, but not in the obnoxious McClucker mold. I saw him on JRE MMA Show #35, and he seemed quite a nice guy. And as for McClucker himself - he hasn't been very vocal since Khabib took him down.

A couple of other great fights on the card:

Matt Frivola v Lando Vannata - holy shit!!!

Jordan Rinaldi v Jason Knight was pretty good too. I was really impressed with Rinaldi, but took against him the instant he opened his mouth in the post fight interview. If there's one thing I hate more than McClucker style it's those fighters who insist on preaching religion and telling you how fucking holy and pious they are.