Pet Peeves, dislikes, & things you don't understand in porn?

[BooBootheBear]

Originally Posted by stob

Cum4K and BBCpie is bad enough with the fake goo. Facials4K or whatever the hell it's called, is worse.

I can't for the life of me think why anyone would find it appealing to see a fake penis shoot goo all over the woman's face. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised that there are guys who get off on such things.

What really irks me, is when what looks to a good scene, ruined by that crap being introduced.

Maybe I could put Handbrake to good use and cut the end of the video off.

There were a couple of idiots who went by the name of Donger Brothers ages ago. They shot "comedy" scenes for Reality Gangs. They used what looked like 2ft rubber schlongs that jetted out "semen" that had the consistency of milk. The fakes were good quality [think Vince Gallo's in Brown Bunny] I watched one with Gianna Michaels. Boredom set in pretty quickly and I concluded they were live action ads for the big fake life-like dicks. i saw another similar thing with a group of black dudes shouting "Woah!" as their fakes jetted pints like fire hoses with such force the girls actually reeled back like they'd been slapped.
The Dongers thought they were being funny. The others were trying to sell the porn world on the superiority of gigantic black horsecocks. Neither were in any way successful in their aims.


More recently I saw a scene with Scarlett Alexis where just at the cum shot there was a really clumsy cut that went straight to a close up of what looked like very old wallpaper paste running out of her. All I could think of in the moment, apart from extreme annoyance at the very bad videography, was "That can't be sanitary. Or healthy for the girl."


Most of these failures come down to several things. Lack of professionalism, or the basic pride to put in the pre-production work to get the sfx correct and consider proper shot making and edits. They have a basic idea scribbled on a cocktail napkin from their local lapdancing bar and they just show up and start shooting. They clearly do no test shots to see what works and they don't have the nous or pride to look at the rushes of their end product or the courage to say "That's pants. Let's shoot it again."
You'd think that people filming for sites marketed on real cum shots would be mindful of their end product, but no.


This is why I was quite impressed by the people shooting for Hentaied recently. i may not like the content, but good grief they clearly put a lot of professional standard work into setting up every aspect of the shoot and getting it right. That speaks to a lot of self respect and, significantly, sufficient respect for their audience to produce their very best work and to make sure it looks right before they release it.

[jaydogbones]

Originally Posted by BooBootheBear

There were a couple of idiots who went by the name of Donger Brothers ages ago. They shot "comedy" scenes for Reality Gangs. They used what looked like 2ft rubber schlongs that jetted out "semen" that had the consistency of milk. The fakes were good quality [think Vince Gallo's in Brown Bunny] I watched one with Gianna Michaels. Boredom set in pretty quickly and I concluded they were live action ads for the big fake life-like dicks. i saw another similar thing with a group of black dudes shouting "Woah!" as their fakes jetted pints like fire hoses with such force the girls actually reeled back like they'd been slapped.
The Dongers thought they were being funny. The others were trying to sell the porn world on the superiority of gigantic black horsecocks. Neither were in any way successful in their aims.


More recently I saw a scene with Scarlett Alexis where just at the cum shot there was a really clumsy cut that went straight to a close up of what looked like very old wallpaper paste running out of her. All I could think of in the moment, apart from extreme annoyance at the very bad videography, was "That can't be sanitary. Or healthy for the girl."


Most of these failures come down to several things. Lack of professionalism, or the basic pride to put in the pre-production work to get the sfx correct and consider proper shot making and edits. They have a basic idea scribbled on a cocktail napkin from their local lapdancing bar and they just show up and start shooting. They clearly do no test shots to see what works and they don't have the nous or pride to look at the rushes of their end product or the courage to say "That's pants. Let's shoot it again."
You'd think that people filming for sites marketed on real cum shots would be mindful of their end product, but no.


This is why I was quite impressed by the people shooting for Hentaied recently. i may not like the content, but good grief they clearly put a lot of professional standard work into setting up every aspect of the shoot and getting it right. That speaks to a lot of self respect and, significantly, sufficient respect for their audience to produce their very best work and to make sure it looks right before they release it.

I spotted the fake facial shot in one of Coco Lovelock's Dogfart scenes. Sir Goldy gets ready to cum on her face then a sloppy cut and a stream of fake jizz shoots out from a place it shouldn't, somewhere underneath his dick. I suppose Sir Goldy just couldn't cum on time and the crew would've been late to their L.A. Galaxy soccer match...soooo
Very disappointing that their "new Director" the old hack Jim Powers is resorting to this trickery. Billy Watson would never have allowed such crap. And speaking of Jim Powers and Dogfart in general, just where are they getting this new batch of male "talent", the L.A. County Jail because they seem like some desperate dudes to me.

[ww2flyer]

Tee hee.

Originally Posted by BooBootheBear

...proper shot making...

[BooBootheBear]

Originally Posted by jaydogbones

I spotted the fake facial shot in one of Coco Lovelock's Dogfart scenes. Sir Goldy gets ready to cum on her face then a sloppy cut and a stream of fake jizz shoots out from a place it shouldn't, somewhere underneath his dick. I suppose Sir Goldy just couldn't cum on time and the crew would've been late to their L.A. Galaxy soccer match...soooo
Very disappointing that their "new Director" the old hack Jim Powers is resorting to this trickery. Billy Watson would never have allowed such crap. And speaking of Jim Powers and Dogfart in general, just where are they getting this new batch of male "talent", the L.A. County Jail because they seem like some desperate dudes to me.

Too many productions now look like prison day-release gang rape day and most of these mopes can't cum on cue for any number of reasons, performance anxiety being the biggest among them because their egos make them think they'll show up and fuck like rhinos then they realize they're in a room full of people and there are lights and cameras and microphones and a room full of people looking and bustling about doing jobs and watching and suddenly Mr Big Black FlagPole everyone should be in awe of turns into Mr Flopsy McFlopperson.


Add to that shit lifestyle, and the fact that they're doing four or five scenes a week, relying on little blue pills on top of the coke and crack to stay hard and give them the nerve to perform and all scratching their heads wondering why their dicks don't work because they don't understand that even if you are 'blessed' with a big black cock that apparently sets you apart from the other mere mortals you still have no option but to obey they basic limits of physiology and no amount of pharmacology can change that.
Then asswipes like Powers say "back in the old days..." and "solves" the producer's problem though no one can remember just how bad Jim Powers' videos used to be.
And we have a whole new generation of really bad adult videos that sets the bar even lower than it was.


Like or loathe him, Peter North worked in the industry for decades and even on his way out he had a reputation for performing like a Trojan and cumming like a horse. That's because whatever else he was, North was a pro and he behaved like one. He understood his body and its limits, he stayed healthy, lived and worked right and gave himself plenty of time to fully recover between productions. There probably are some but I can't think of a single North scene where the cum shot was deliberately and very poorly faked.


As for current work, of even the stuff I bother to download to keep some parts of the library current, I ignore most newly produced content because I find it unwatchable.

[Frogger]

Originally Posted by BooBootheBear

Like or loathe him, Peter North worked in the industry for decades and even on his way out he had a reputation for performing like a Trojan and cumming like a horse. That's because whatever else he was, North was a pro and he behaved like one. He understood his body and its limits, he stayed healthy, lived and worked right and gave himself plenty of time to fully recover between productions. There probably are some but I can't think of a single North scene where the cum shot was deliberately and very poorly faked.

Some of his scenes were funny where he was cumming like a race horse and the women started laughing due to the amount of cum he produced.

[Pteranodon]

Hello everyone.
I'd like to talk about a specific issue which has been pissing me off since I started watching porn.
So, when I started watching, I had never heard about the fact that actors usually come out of the vagina, generally on a body part of the actress. Basically I didn't know cumshot was a thing at all and I discovered it through porn.
But I immediately was astounded and disappointed by this. And even more when I understood that it was what happened in the vast majority of videos.
Sure, I eventually found out about the creampie category. But let's be honest, creampies must be like 10 % of scenes at best, it's very rare. Some paysites don't even have a creampie tag.
Some other scenes are labelled as creampie when the guy just come on the pussy. Or they have an actual creampie but then they fuck again until the actor does a cumshot, like it's an absolutely mandatory thing to do to end the scene.

My question: WHY is that?

Where did the producers and directors got that from? I don't think this was a very common practice before porn arrived, and even today that it has spread everywhere, I think that most people who have intercourse in real life will still end it with an internal ejaculation.

So how comes creampies are most likely the norm in real life sex but a rare exception in porn?

To be honest I really don't like cumshots. I find them very frustrating. I think there's something missing, like the fucking session is incomplete.
I've reached a point where I almost never watch a scene if I know it ends with a cumshot instead of a creampie.

Creampies are quite hot, most girls actually love the feel, it's incredibly beautiful to see one asking for the guy to come inside her and smiling as he does, then watching the sperm drip out of her.
Some actresses have explicitly expressed their love for creampies, I know Nicole Aniston did, and I see Nancy Ace has many creampie scenes for example. If you know of other actresses that do creampies more often than usual, i'd be very interested.
But some other just never did a vaginal creampie scenes, I think of Lola Taylor or Angel Rivas, despite them being insanely pretty.

I uderstand that there might be scenaristic circumstances where a cumshot, facial or not, can be justified, like if the man wants to assert dominance over the woman.
But what would be the problem with doing a creampie in most contexts ?
Take romantic/art porn for example. I think cumshots are totally out of place here. Creampie should be the only way a romantic or art porn scene ends, it fits them so well! However, even though they might be more common in this style, they are still not the norm.
What does a cumshot do in a newlyweds scene seriously?
Another example where I find them very nice is cheating scenes. That's one of my kinks I must admit, and the view of a cheating milf or teen casually receiving a creampie behind her husband or boyfriend's back is just incredible, a lot more than a cumshot, which just gives the feel that the cheating is interrupted instead of being entirely consumed.

Sorry for this long post and if this topic has already been discussed, please don't hesitate to indicate where the thread is. But I reallly needed to talk with other porn addicts about something that's a continuous source of frustration for me about it.

[Zarkness316]

It is too damn long but I get your point.

First off, companies lie, people lie, everyone lies.

Guys shoot movies and fuck for hours on end, and depending how popular they are, each day of the week. That's why drug use is so high because it's hard to keep that same stamina and erect for that long. So it's not like they can build up their loads and use it all for one scene, because they're busy working other scenes multiple days per week. So they cum that at the rim of pussies so their small loads are seen, or the loads are fake.

That doesn't even include the price you would have to pay the female talent to do those scenes, plus precautions if she gets pregnant. So that explains your 10%.

There are some standouts like early Big Tit Cream Pie scenes with Chris Strokes, or early BlackedRaw scenes, but they are far and few.

I recommend looking at amateur porn, like couples that put their content on PronHub. That's where the good ones are.

Recommendations from PH:

Thestartofus
Violet Moreau
Lush Pinkk
OneNymphoLatina
Coconey
CarryLight

[mstipendiary]

Porno was legalised in Denmark in 1969, the first European country, the first country to make Sex Films, depictions of fucking, legal.

Then it 'exploded' worldwide, after the Sexual Revolution, contraception and free love, it was in the air, a Sign of the Times.

It seems that almost immediately these short 6-10 minutes 'loops' of heterosexual fucking ended with external ejaculation. To show anything else, diverting from the established formula, was seriously looked down upon. It's been said this was because that's what the buyers (men of course) wanted to see and it sold, so it was agreed on by director/performers and it became an established trope of fuck flicks.

Plus it's less messy, the girl can wipe it off and easily move on with their day. This seemed to get codified from very early on in American porn loops (and then the later 60-75 minute full movies). The biggest and most popular male US performer, John C Holmes made several hundred loops in the era and almost always there is an obligatory facial offered - and he always delivered a massive face painting to the chick.

Certainly the nastier and more boundary pushing 70s directors like (my avatar) Shaun Costello always did copious facials in his movies.

Then in the 80s the frequency went down significantly, Annette Haven and Christy Canyon were 'no facials' girls. Rachel Ryan made 200 films did anal in a lot but very few facials.

In the 1990s Gonzo was king, stories were out, all sex DVDs were popular and with more raunchy acts you had to have facials all the time. The period included more group sex (in Anabolic's Gang Bang girls for example), more guys , more bukkake esque content.

tl, dr. I think, you nail it in the above post, its popularity is potentially because men are getting what they might not able to get from their wife/lover. You go to a hooker or porn film to get the anal and facials that you're spouse is too uptight to do or you have the "respect" for her so you wouldn't put a loved one through it, but you can explore it with a professional sex worker.

[ww2flyer]

Moving this to the "porn pet peeves" thread.

One answer to your question - less relevant today than in the 70s and 80s - a visible cumshot "proved" that the sex was real and lent the air of authenticity. Without it, the arguments was it was all fake. I would say that it's certainly more fake today, but that's another argument.

[jaydogbones]

Originally Posted by Pteranodon

Hello everyone.
I'd like to talk about a specific issue which has been pissing me off since I started watching porn.
So, when I started watching, I had never heard about the fact that actors usually come out of the vagina, generally on a body part of the actress. Basically I didn't know cumshot was a thing at all and I discovered it through porn.
But I immediately was astounded and disappointed by this. And even more when I understood that it was what happened in the vast majority of videos.
Sure, I eventually found out about the creampie category. But let's be honest, creampies must be like 10 % of scenes at best, it's very rare. Some paysites don't even have a creampie tag.
Some other scenes are labelled as creampie when the guy just come on the pussy. Or they have an actual creampie but then they fuck again until the actor does a cumshot, like it's an absolutely mandatory thing to do to end the scene.

My question: WHY is that?

Where did the producers and directors got that from? I don't think this was a very common practice before porn arrived, and even today that it has spread everywhere, I think that most people who have intercourse in real life will still end it with an internal ejaculation.

So how comes creampies are most likely the norm in real life sex but a rare exception in porn?

To be honest I really don't like cumshots. I find them very frustrating. I think there's something missing, like the fucking session is incomplete.
I've reached a point where I almost never watch a scene if I know it ends with a cumshot instead of a creampie.

Creampies are quite hot, most girls actually love the feel, it's incredibly beautiful to see one asking for the guy to come inside her and smiling as he does, then watching the sperm drip out of her.
Some actresses have explicitly expressed their love for creampies, I know Nicole Aniston did, and I see Nancy Ace has many creampie scenes for example. If you know of other actresses that do creampies more often than usual, i'd be very interested.
But some other just never did a vaginal creampie scenes, I think of Lola Taylor or Angel Rivas, despite them being insanely pretty.

I uderstand that there might be scenaristic circumstances where a cumshot, facial or not, can be justified, like if the man wants to assert dominance over the woman.
But what would be the problem with doing a creampie in most contexts ?
Take romantic/art porn for example. I think cumshots are totally out of place here. Creampie should be the only way a romantic or art porn scene ends, it fits them so well! However, even though they might be more common in this style, they are still not the norm.
What does a cumshot do in a newlyweds scene seriously?
Another example where I find them very nice is cheating scenes. That's one of my kinks I must admit, and the view of a cheating milf or teen casually receiving a creampie behind her husband or boyfriend's back is just incredible, a lot more than a cumshot, which just gives the feel that the cheating is interrupted instead of being entirely consumed.

Sorry for this long post and if this topic has already been discussed, please don't hesitate to indicate where the thread is. But I reallly needed to talk with other porn addicts about something that's a continuous source of frustration for me about it.

Too put it succinctly, creampies have never been the norm in porn and never will be because they're too easy to fake This is in a nutshell why the facial money shot has always been the norm in porn...proof of a real orgasm.