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Old 28th April 2024, 05:29   #41
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Onlyfans has to be a grind. The amount of content you have to shoot, and then promote it has to be incredible. It works if you have an already built following. Like girls who are in the industry, insta, and tiktok girls. However I can't imagine the thought of just being a regular lady and jumping into it.

That just doesn't make sense. Who do you know that "blew up" on Onlyfans that didn't already have the audience?

I agree with that, and also ad that you have to have an audience that not only knows who you are, but an audience that will PAY. I have thousands of porn vids, but I haven't paid for any. Plus, most if not all of these onlyfans accounts have paywalls. You pay for a month's subscription, then you have to pay for the stuff on there that's worth having. Just way too much money for most people, no matter how much they like the girls. And with the economy as it is, I see less people willing to pay, not more.
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Old 28th April 2024, 10:47   #42
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When women can do what they want and have access to any man they desire, it means a solid 1/3rd of men will go without.
Honestly this is an argument I hear more and more and is kind of bullshit from my perspective.
I believe 95% of men could get sex - without even paying for it - if they wanted to. And a lot of this celibacy among young men is self-imposed.
What I will say is that the pornification of our society has made some men have very unrealistic expectations.
If you look like Stavros Halkias, you are not going to pull supermodel pussy. Unless you are a billionaire or something. But you still can go out there and get sex.
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You can argue that normalizing and decriminalizing sex work is necessary BECAUSE of all the sexless men we have now. What is the endgame for the current trajectory we are on?
I never claimed to know the endgame. If I had to guess though, I'd say that things will continue going in the direction they've been going in since at least the 1960s when hormonal birth control entered the market and feminism and the counterculture movement became integral parts of society.

Which means fewer marriages, men checking out of society/not working as hard or as long, and more and more women continuing to be single, childless and on some form of prescription anti-depressant to cope with being alone as they age.

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Onlyfans won't last forever, eventually these men will want the real thing. Not to mention the countless gen z/millennial women who will never get married in a world with ever increasing CoL.
Women are the gatekeepers to sex while men are the gatekeepers to relationships. Marriages are down and that's mainly because men aren't pursuing women anymore, at least not like in generations past.

Men want the real thing. I'm confident in saying that most men who watch porn would rather spend time banging a woman than jerking it themselves, it's just a lot of men can't have the real thing because the price is too high for modern women. And by the price being too high I mean that most men can't afford it (prob ~80%) while the remaining ~20% or so just aren't willing to pay for the cost of a modern woman (I mean in a marriage/LTR, not a whore).

The average man in the U.S. makes around $50K/yr while below average women demand that a man needs to make at least twice that amount to even be considered by them. Only about 10% of men make six figures or more annually, and that stat includes ALL men, whether they're single or married, straight or gay, etc. And most men who make six figures annually are older (like 50+ years old) as most young men don't have the skills or experience to earn that kind of money on an annual basis.

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Only way out of this mess is either a return to enforced monogamy or decriminalization/normalization of sex work. When women can do what they want and have access to any man they desire, it means a solid 1/3rd of men will go without. What is the solution then, because I don't think our porn-drenched society is healthy. Women have too much power, money & connections now so "just take away their rights" won't work, sorry far right wingers.
To be clear, I'm not some right-wing wacko who's claiming that we need to abolish women's rights and/or go back to the stone age or some other nonsensical straw-man argument.

The false-dichotomy you present is in no way the only possible end scenarios however, and your claim that if women have access to any man they desire then "1/3 of men will go without" is grossly off as that figure will be much closer to 90% of men going without if that scenario ever came to pass.

We've been seeing that from the data from dating apps for years now where only the top 10% of men there are getting matches/dates while the remaining 90% or so get little, if anything at all. This isn't a phenomenon limited to only Tinder or Hinge either, this is throughout all of the dating apps.

While correlation isn't causation, it should be noted that since the iPhone entered the market and social media as we know it took off, the number of male virgins under 30 has increased dramatically over the past decade and a half:



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I also think the next gen of men (gen alpha) will be far more averse of sex/connection through a screen. they will gladly pay for real life fun (think "trump bordello" in a future red light district in NYC) but things like onlyfans/cam sites will be seen as a waste of time, money & energy that doesn't even compare to real life sex with an escort, let alone an actual connection to a wife/gf.
You're assuming these men have the coin to spare for pussy. Most men, especially young men, learning the necessary skills and gaining the required experience to earn good salaries don't have the expendable income to just go out a pay for sex.

Women initiate ~80% of all divorces and it's men who pay ~97% of alimony + child support as they don't typically get awarded custody of their kids. Since No-Fault divorce got introduced c.1970s divorce rates have skyrocketed and a lot of Millennial, Zoomer, Alpha kids have now see their dads, uncles, older brothers, etc. get divorce-raped by the system that is openly biased and outright hostile towards them. You don't need to see too many men broken by divorces to give up on the idea of ever getting married despite probably actually wanting the companionship of a traditional woman.

Keep in mind, most modern women aren't raised to be wives. They're raised to put getting an education and a career first, which after you go through the process of doing that you wind up with a 30+ year old woman who's racked up more bodies than the Predator and has pictures and videos of herself getting plowed by other dudes floating around the internet that she sold online when she was a teenager and 20s.
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Honestly this is an argument I hear more and more and is kind of bullshit from my perspective.
I believe 95% of men could get sex - without even paying for it - if they wanted to. And a lot of this celibacy among young men is self-imposed.
What I will say is that the pornification of our society has made some men have very unrealistic expectations.
If you look like Stavros Halkias, you are not going to pull supermodel pussy. Unless you are a billionaire or something. But you still can go out there and get sex.
True.
I think if someone wants a Stormy Daniels, Lisa Ann or Pamela Anderson clone so bad, he won't get any woman at all. Unless he is a billionaire or a well-known celebrity, and can afford to get top escorts in Vegas or LA or he has "connections" in the biz.
I personally like next-door looking cute girls IRL (the ones like Anne Hathaway, Dakota Johnson, Kirsten Dunst and the likes).
I always did.

Sure, I DO also like MILFs like Stormy Daniels, Lisa Ann and the likes (who doesn't?).
But IRL you gotta learn to lower your expectations, and accept what life offers you.
Real-life is not a Porn set.
What you see in Porn is all staged, fake.
Some men still don't get it (specially young ones) as they're just "too addicted-wired" to Porn.
Once you become desensitized by it (after I did, after a 20 years long addiction), and you accept the fact that you will never get a Lisa Ann or Stormy Daniels in your life, you definitely start to see things from a different perspective.

And, quite frankly, between a super hot MILF with huge breasts from the Valley, and a cute and intelligent next-door looking girl, I would definitely choose the latter.
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