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10th February 2024, 07:31 | #11 | |
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I don't do much video editing on it, but rather I edit plenty of audio stuff other than playing a few games. But I remember reading in a video forum that editing RAW material on a SSD, specially uncompressed footage that ranges anywhere from 500 GB - 2 TB isn't advised, as with constant rendering, you wear the drive much faster that way, specially if you edit a lot of video footage on a daily basis. Hybrid Drives seem to be the best choice for some video editors. As far as data rot goes, I still have a very old 80 GB IDE drive that I had since 2005 (with PLENTY of writes on it), and a couple of Samsung 500 GB drives that I had since 2010, that I haven't used in years (only 13 hours of actual on time). I'm surprised that these still work just fine, compared to some old burned CDs/DVDs that I had in my closet. Same with some Blu-Ray data discs I burned over the years. I suppose that if one store his/her HDDs/discs appropriately, they can also last a good 20 years (if not used heavily), despite having a certified "expiration date" of 10 years. I personally experienced more data rot with SD cards and USB thumbs, than with actual HDDs/discs. Discs can get scratched, but you can still access them and pull data off them. Thumbdrives and SD cards, on the other hand, aren't 100% reliable for long-term storage. And they also tend to die much faster than a HDD/disc. I wouldn't use them for storing anything important on them. Still. Having multiple backups is always a good choice, though. I wouldn't rely only on a single drive as, like they say, "Shiz can happen" even with a brand new HDD/SSD.
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I'd still suggest buying drive and case separately, but I can understand why you wouldn't want to do it. As a matter of fact, many people don't. Given this circumstance, you chose some pretty solid drives here, and one not so solid:
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It should be noted that these don't need an external power supply, which is convenient. 3.5" HDDs always do need one, because the USB port can't supply enough power to spin up the drive. Quote:
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There is only one use case where these drives work ok. You only write data to it for archival reasons, which will never be deleted or modified. All subsequent access will either be reading existing data or writing new data, until the drive is full. |
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We're getting pretty off topic here, but this might be valuable knowledge for someone at some time, so here we go:
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"Drive Write Per Day", DWPD, is the measurement here. A Drive Write refers to writing the full capacity of the drive once. If your writes per day accumulate to the capacity of the drive, then this is 1 DWPD. If you have a 2 TB SSD and within one day, write 200 GB to it, delete the data and do it nine additional times, it's 1 DWPD. If you write its full 2 TB capacity in one go each day, it's also 1 DWPD. 1 DWPD is usually called Read Intensive and 3 DWPD is called Mixed Use. This refers to the workload, read intensive means your workload should mostly be reads while mixed use suggests more like a 50/50 ratio between reads and writes. There used to be a 5+ DWPD class, but that doesn't really exist anymore. The reason for that is that the concept of DWPD is in constant flux while drives become bigger. I'm about to deploy some 15.36 TB SSDs and they're specified as read intensive for 1 DWPD. So, they're the lowest endurance class, but because they're so big, they have a better write endurance than smaller 3 DWPD mixed use drives. This works because SSDs perform wear leveling. The underlying technology is called NAND Flash which consists of individual cells. Each cell could initially store 1 bit of data (Single Level Cell, SLC), they've sinced evolved into various states of Multi Level Cells, able to store 2, 3 and 4 bits (Multi, Triple and Quad Level Cells, MLC, TLC and QLC respectively). The drive shuffles data around to make sure that all cells see an equal amount of writes. That's why you won't be able to kill a SSD by always writing its "first" 200 GB in a loop, because internally the data will end up in different cells. Unlike HDDs, SSDs offer the same performance everywhere on the drive, so they can do that in the background without the user noticing. Quote:
100%. They're more like temporary storage. The technology is the same as with SSDs, they use NAND Flash cells, but usually of much lower quality. Killing a SSD by writing to it is fairly difficult, for thumb drives and SD cards it's very easy. |
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10th February 2024, 19:33 | #14 |
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You'll likely be okay with any of the drives you narrowed your choice down to.
Seagate vs. Western Digital is like The Hatfields vs. The McCoys. For my part, when I bought mine several years ago, I did my homework, and though Seagate and WD had similar specs and prices, it came down to reviews and user's personal experiences. That's where, for me, WD won by a nose. As Samsung was a late entry to the portable HD game, either Seagate or WD would serve your needs... and there's no telling that you may need/want more storage down the road. I never thought I'd need a 4TB drive, but I've got about 1.1TB left on it... |
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Thanks for all of the in depth recommendations as I am currently in the market to upgrade my aging HDDs with SSDs.
I do NOT recommend Toshiba as I have had 3 portable drives and 1 standard external. The 3 portable drives failed within the first year of purchase but thankfully the standard external is still operational despite being 10 years old now. |
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Over the years I noticed that Verbatim has always been a very reputable brand for DVD-Rs/BD-Rs media. I used to get BD-Rs cakeboxes manufactured in Singapore, with Hard-Coat protection on the discs, and those have always served me well over the years. Can't say the same for cheap/aftermarket brands that usually came either already scratched or badly manufactured. BUT.....I also had original pressed Blu-Ray discs failing on me as well, due to disc-rot (i'm talking about early 2007-2008 Blu-Ray releases). It's still a problem even with some 4K Blu-Rays, as those are much more "delicate" than standard Blu's, as they have data stored on the edges of the disc and it only takes a few scratches to make the disc unplayable. But now with streaming and "other ways" to obtain movies in 1:1 quality as the original disc, i'm finding myself buying less and less titles than before. Only very "special movies" or limited editions it's what i'm buying, these days. The rest is either in .ISO or full-quality MKV files.
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Right now I am using all western digital drives, a my passport USB 3.2 2TB external portable drive for transferring everyday stuff to and from different computers, easy to use just plug it into a USB port no other power needed, i have only had this one about 3 months but before i had smaller 750gb ones they lasted about 6 or 7 years.
for permanent storage i use western digital elements desktop external hard drives, i have two 6tb, two 12tb & two 18tb i store my stuff on, been using them for several years with no problems, the 18tb's i just bought this past black friday. As far as reliable that's really not something that exists anymore, the old drives were reliable, i still have some 25 to 30 year old hard drives from 1990's that still work but they are to tiny to be very useful for anything now days, pretty much about the time they got upto about 1tb drives reliability started going downhill. anything i want to keep i put on 2 separate hard drives at 2 different houses that way if one dies or even if my house is destroyed i can restore it from the other, it's very unlikely both will die or be destroyed at the same time. I have lost so much stuff in the past to hard drives that died without warning i don't take chances anymore. the drives i have right now have worked fine for a good amount of time but i have had others die in just a few weeks, just depends on how unlucky you are. As far as the type it depends on what you prefer, the 2tb my passport portable drive requires no power cord and it's small, smaller than my cell phone, a 2tb desktop type requires a power cord to be plugged into the wall and the drive is about the size of a book (for anyone that can't remember what a book looks like you can see one in a museum) right now where i got these newegg .com they range from $79 for the 2tb and the other 6tb, 12tb & 18tb are $148, $249, $329, But i got all my drives for a lot less because i only buy stuff like that on black friday sales when it's about 40-50% off. they have cheaper drives but brands i have not used or some i never heard of. |
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I decided on the Samsung 2TB Portable SSD T7 Touch Model MU-PC2T0K/WW - $160, but delivery was 10 days so I purchased the Western Digital 2TB Elements Portable HDD, External Hard Drive, USB 3.0 for PC & Mac, Plug and Play Ready - WDBU6Y0020BBK-WESN - $73 + tax from Amazon.
It arrived overnight without the Quick Start Guide, but software was pre-loaded, only needed one click to install; truly"plug and play". It quickly copied 15 USB memory sticks of content as well as backed up my entire (content free) HD. 1TB remains unused. I am very happy with it so far and might purchase another. Thanks again for so many useful comments.
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Besides, WD make great solid drives. Happy to hear that it works great.
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