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Old 26th October 2023, 04:49   #1
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Is 3840x2160 (UHD) and 4096X2160 (4K) considered as same?
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Is this a philosophical question or are you asking if you can post a scene in one resolution if the other has already been posted?
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Is this a philosophical question or are you asking if you can post a scene in one resolution if the other has already been posted?
Yeah for patm HD. These two resolutions will be treated as same?
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While these are different from a technical point of view, although the difference is small and both are considered 4k, they're indeed similar for the purpose of PATM. So, yes, they're treated the same.

I'm also not sure how often this would come up. I'd say that it's unlikely that the same scene is released in both resolutions, because they're so close to each other, yet so different in production (because of different aspect ratios).

Also, remember that custom re-encodes are not allowed in PATM. Just saying, in case this is somehow connected.
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While these are different from a technical point of view, although the difference is small and both are considered 4k, they're indeed similar for the purpose of PATM. So, yes, they're treated the same.

I'm also not sure how often this would come up. I'd say that it's unlikely that the same scene is released in both resolutions, because they're so close to each other, yet so different in production (because of different aspect ratios).

Also, remember that custom re-encodes are not allowed in PATM. Just saying, in case this is somehow connected.
I'd be suprised if many scenes were released natively in 4096 × 2160 - as 4096 × 2160 is one of three ratios employed in professional digital cinema projection (the others being 3996 × 2160, and 4096 × 1716) I'm not sure why anyone would go to the bother of using it for Home Cinema purposes - does anyone still release porn at a 'proper cinema'?
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While these are different from a technical point of view, although the difference is small and both are considered 4k, they're indeed similar for the purpose of PATM. So, yes, they're treated the same.

I'm also not sure how often this would come up. I'd say that it's unlikely that the same scene is released in both resolutions, because they're so close to each other, yet so different in production (because of different aspect ratios).

Also, remember that custom re-encodes are not allowed in PATM. Just saying, in case this is somehow connected.
I saw couple of scenes being posted with 4096X2160. So I was wondering..Thanks for clearing the air.
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I'd be suprised if many scenes were released natively in 4096 × 2160 - as 4096 × 2160 is one of three ratios employed in professional digital cinema projection (the others being 3996 × 2160, and 4096 × 1716) I'm not sure why anyone would go to the bother of using it for Home Cinema purposes - does anyone still release porn at a 'proper cinema'?
While it is generally the exception, especially these days, it isn't that unusual. I'm pretty sure the N@ughty Am3rica sites still release them at 4096x2160.
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My two cents, for what it's worth...

From what I've seen, 3840x2160 is the "norm", as it should be, as the height and width are exactly twice of what we're used to, regarding HD (1920x1080) and maintaining a "standard" 16x9 aspect ratio. There are several factors, one of which is the increase in size of today's TVs/monitors.

Outliers, such as 4096x2160, can be chalked up to following more theatrical aspect ratios (1.85:1, for example, though the above example is about 1.9:1.). I'm sure at some point that there'll be videos released in today's widescreen aspect ratios, like 47:20, 12:5, etc., if for nothing else, to gauge fan reaction and feedback.

Unless AI figures it out, I wouldn't expect any larger videos, especially since some are going back and trying to "upgrade" old videos. As an example, PB has been trying to convert its original 4:3 ratio, 8 fps videos to 1920x1080 videos with whatever fps they can squeeze out of them, to rather mixed results, IMO.
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I'd be suprised if many scenes were released natively in 4096 × 2160 - as 4096 × 2160 is one of three ratios employed in professional digital cinema projection (the others being 3996 × 2160, and 4096 × 1716) I'm not sure why anyone would go to the bother of using it for Home Cinema purposes - does anyone still release porn at a 'proper cinema'?
That's also the native resolution of some professional-oriented PC monitors as well. I also think Apple use that resolution for its laptops/iMacs.
I'd say anything beyond 3840x2160 is pretty pointless, "consumer-wise" unless, of course, we're talking about VR and videogames, where the extra pixels DO make a difference.
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