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mortiis38 · 8th January 2015, 02:05

Okay.

Possibly a touchy subject, but here goes...

I have been an author for over twenty five years, and have been researching scat stars
(and non scat stars) for roughly 7-8 years in order to include them in a book (based
around scat and extreme performers).

In my experience I have noticed a lot of things, but the main thing which stands out to me is that
non-scat stars (not even mainstream porn stars, but just porn stars in general who don't do scat) tend
to be a lot more easier to engage with on any kind of level.

I have interviewed Veronica Moser, Alexia Cage, Louise Hunter, Mia, Reike, Suzan and Marc, Pretty Lisa,
Anastasia (all scat stars), but they have been incredibly vague, very defensive, and quite abrupt with
their answers and sometimes downright rude.

Also, in my experience, I have interviewed non-scat porn stars, who all seem to be extremely happy
to speak about their work, their past, present and future endeavours.

What is the difference? WHY is there a difference at all?

I understand fully that scat performers sometimes need to keep anonymous (perhaps they have
family, or another job which they hold dear) - but they are on the internet putting out content
(just like the regular porn stars are), yet they are so reluctant to discuss and interact with
someone who really just wants to tell THEIR side of the story, to help others to understand why
they do what they do (it is not always for money, there are sometimes other reasons, as in the
case of Alexia Cage).

There are all kinds of extreme pornography out there, and (to be honest), Scat/Puke/Piss is on
the lower-end of the scale of extremities, really when you think about some of the other
stuff.
The idea that these performers "hide" behind a mask, or a persona, in order to protect their
anonymity is acceptable (of course), yet their hostility and reluctance to interact is not.

I, myself, have been into toilet-sex porn (in some way, shape or form), since I was a teenager
(possibly even before), and I have often been open about it with partners, people close to me
etc. In my jobs in the past, I have not discussed it - but that is because the conversation has
never been brought up, not because I am ashamed of liking it.

From what I have learnt : most porn stars (non scat) do not have work outside of their porn work,
yet Scat stars usually DO work outside of their porn.
This seems to be the reason for a lot of the hostilities, bad manners, and running away/changing
email addresses and names etc - they want to protect themselves.

The thing is : these people made a choice to begin displaying their fetish on the internet,
knowing (obviously) that they were going to develop legions of devoted fans and people would
want to know more about them (just like with non-scat porn stars).

Why then (if this is the case) would they have developed their online presence without
first thinking through the consequences?

It took me almost 7 years to finally make contact with Alexia Cage (I won't display her
real name here, for privacy reasons), but when I finally did - I learned something from
her.

I learnt that sometimes when a scat performers agrees to something it is sometimes
not as it seems, and could quite possibly be for the wrong reasons.
(I will be publishing edited information in my book relating to what I learned about
Alexia, but to be honest - I value her friendship too much to expose more than that).

I will continue to research for this book, yet I am now at a crossroads : I am trying
very hard to locate Santara (aka Kate) for an interview and to talk to. She is someone
who I HAVE to have in my book, to make it complete.

When contacting her, I have gone through W0rld0fSc@t (who seem to be a very dodgy company,
and I have knowledge that they have ripped off/not paid some of their performers). They
have also cancelled their email accounts and are now not contactable at all.

Someone must have information on Santara, I know she lives in Moldova (as far as I am aware),
she mentioned that in her video interview that she did. That is all I know.

If anyone can contribute, or even HELP to contribute, I would be very grateful.

I am sorry if this has been long-winded, but I hope you made it through!

X

Deadheart · 8th January 2015, 18:57

This is your life work? Writing a shit book lol

jdbAG · 8th January 2015, 20:09

Gross.

mortiis38 · 9th January 2015, 02:12

Deadheart,
no this is not my life-work, it's something I am working on (on and off) as a side-project amongst other things.

And jdbAG - I understand the judgement, but it's really uncalled for, you opened the thread to just say "Gross"?

Karmafan · 9th January 2015, 04:54

In the hierarchy of porn fetishes the very bottom of the ladder is kiddie porn. The next step up above that is Beastiality, above that is scat. Everyone looks down on those 3 types of porn (and for good reason) as being disgusting (and highly illegal in most areas of the world). Of course folks that engage in those fetishes are going to be very guarded in what they say.

pearldiver6 · 9th January 2015, 07:11

Long ago I bought a magazine called Film Threat Video that had an article 50 Underground Films You Must See. (or something similar) All under the radar things. One was in a video thing called Electric Blue and had a video shot by members of the GoGo's. Another was a film made about The Carpenters using only (as actors) Barbie Dolls. Another was a film about NAMBLA, and evidently from the article and interviews, included photos (and I assume in the film video) of some members. That seemed surprising as their twisted bent is illegal and frowned upon to put it mildly, in virtually the entire world. To expand upon what Karmafan says, it is not surprising folks who engage in activities that are highly illegal to of questionable legality would be reluctant to discuss those activities, or to go on record for a book. Or to be respond favorably to someone for all they know could be a cop.

Things are very different today, with shows like To Catch A Predator and relative online anonymity, and people using it to try to meet (according to many PD's) underage people, it almost could seem there was a pedophile behind every bush. Back in the 70's that sort of thing was said to be very rare, and most if not all child pornography was produced in eastern Europe (from Cecil Adams, The Straight Dope) The US Govt, never a slouch in inciting panic, undertook something called Project Looking Glass. They took a bunch of those east Euro mags, cut them up, pasted them together, and made many new mags that they tried to sell to people so they could arrest them. Some of the cases made were so egregious that they were dismissed as entrapment. It was said some were sent offers to buy over fifty times. http://google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...1dCZWsN1_MRxyQ Other info may come up on a search of Looking Glass command and control stuff Air Force One..., anyway, one of the things I read said one fellow was suggested to the USPO as a candidate for this reverse sting by his PO - he was a sex offender. So there is moral ambuguity all over that. But such a broad thing can get the guilty and maybe sometimes the not guilty to not so guilty. There is something in Texas called Improper Photography. That sounds ambiguous does it not? If a cop sees someone taking pictures of apparent minor(s) they can be arrested for IP. It seems almost always after that when they go search the person's home and computer they find child pornography.

SadVarant · 9th January 2015, 09:23

You may want to seek out an interview with Cherry Torn. She used to do such work before doing more conventional porn and fetish work that she does today. She's always seemed very friendly and open about her previous work to me. She'd probably be your best bet as the only person I know of that has done scat and then went on to reasonable success in the business.

But yeah, it's a very niche thing that a lot of people look down upon. I disagree with Karmafan as, unlike child porn and bestiality, there is no harm involved in scat/piss etc porn to unconsenting participants. It really cannot be compared to the former two for that reason alone. But it's still looked on as gross and dirty, which is perhaps why many of the people involved get very defensive about it. It's easy to judge a persons entire character based only on what you know of their sexuality.

But yeah, I'd definitely suggest seeking an interview with Cherry Torn about it.

Karmafan · 9th January 2015, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SadVarant

You may want to seek out an interview with Cherry Torn. She used to do such work before doing more conventional porn and fetish work that she does today. She's always seemed very friendly and open about her previous work to me. She'd probably be your best bet as the only person I know of that has done scat and then went on to reasonable success in the business.

But yeah, it's a very niche thing that a lot of people look down upon. I disagree with Karmafan as, unlike child porn and bestiality, there is no harm involved in scat/piss etc porn to unconsenting participants. It really cannot be compared to the former two for that reason alone. But it's still looked on as gross and dirty, which is perhaps why many of the people involved get very defensive about it. It's easy to judge a persons entire character based only on what you know of their sexuality.

But yeah, I'd definitely suggest seeking an interview with Cherry Torn about it.

Scat is illegal in many countries. I think its a big nono in the UK.

SadVarant · 9th January 2015, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmafan

Scat is illegal in many countries. I think its a big nono in the UK.

Marijuana is also illegal in many countries. As is downloading copyrighted media, something we all here are quite guilty of.

Laws are not always black and white, and in a case like this I'd say the law would be very unjust. Provided everyone is over the legal age, have fully consented to the activity and no one is being harmed, I see no justification for it to be considered criminal.

And it being gross isn't a justification. If it was, then picking your nose would also be illegal.

mortiis38 · 9th January 2015, 22:46

Karmafan, where I am from I think it is illegal to produce and sell it, but not to practice it your own home, film it and watch it (or even give it away), just the production and sale of it, I believe.

I disagree also with comparing it to CP and Beastiality. Those are two entirely different spectrum's, and coming from someone who has experienced immense childhood sexual abuse (unwillingly, I might add), I can not find anything similar between that and Scat/Piss/Puke.

I will seek out Cherry Torn (I have actually seen her K1nk.c0m work, and she is quite lovely).

8th January 2015, 02:05	#1
mortiis38 Junior Member Virgin Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Porn Stars Vs. Scat Stars - WHY the big difference? Okay. Possibly a touchy subject, but here goes... I have been an author for over twenty five years, and have been researching scat stars (and non scat stars) for roughly 7-8 years in order to include them in a book (based around scat and extreme performers). In my experience I have noticed a lot of things, but the main thing which stands out to me is that non-scat stars (not even mainstream porn stars, but just porn stars in general who don't do scat) tend to be a lot more easier to engage with on any kind of level. I have interviewed Veronica Moser, Alexia Cage, Louise Hunter, Mia, Reike, Suzan and Marc, Pretty Lisa, Anastasia (all scat stars), but they have been incredibly vague, very defensive, and quite abrupt with their answers and sometimes downright rude. Also, in my experience, I have interviewed non-scat porn stars, who all seem to be extremely happy to speak about their work, their past, present and future endeavours. What is the difference? WHY is there a difference at all? I understand fully that scat performers sometimes need to keep anonymous (perhaps they have family, or another job which they hold dear) - but they are on the internet putting out content (just like the regular porn stars are), yet they are so reluctant to discuss and interact with someone who really just wants to tell THEIR side of the story, to help others to understand why they do what they do (it is not always for money, there are sometimes other reasons, as in the case of Alexia Cage). There are all kinds of extreme pornography out there, and (to be honest), Scat/Puke/Piss is on the lower-end of the scale of extremities, really when you think about some of the other stuff. The idea that these performers "hide" behind a mask, or a persona, in order to protect their anonymity is acceptable (of course), yet their hostility and reluctance to interact is not. I, myself, have been into toilet-sex porn (in some way, shape or form), since I was a teenager (possibly even before), and I have often been open about it with partners, people close to me etc. In my jobs in the past, I have not discussed it - but that is because the conversation has never been brought up, not because I am ashamed of liking it. From what I have learnt : most porn stars (non scat) do not have work outside of their porn work, yet Scat stars usually DO work outside of their porn. This seems to be the reason for a lot of the hostilities, bad manners, and running away/changing email addresses and names etc - they want to protect themselves. The thing is : these people made a choice to begin displaying their fetish on the internet, knowing (obviously) that they were going to develop legions of devoted fans and people would want to know more about them (just like with non-scat porn stars). Why then (if this is the case) would they have developed their online presence without first thinking through the consequences? It took me almost 7 years to finally make contact with Alexia Cage (I won't display her real name here, for privacy reasons), but when I finally did - I learned something from her. I learnt that sometimes when a scat performers agrees to something it is sometimes not as it seems, and could quite possibly be for the wrong reasons. (I will be publishing edited information in my book relating to what I learned about Alexia, but to be honest - I value her friendship too much to expose more than that). I will continue to research for this book, yet I am now at a crossroads : I am trying very hard to locate Santara (aka Kate) for an interview and to talk to. She is someone who I HAVE to have in my book, to make it complete. When contacting her, I have gone through W0rld0fSc@t (who seem to be a very dodgy company, and I have knowledge that they have ripped off/not paid some of their performers). They have also cancelled their email accounts and are now not contactable at all. Someone must have information on Santara, I know she lives in Moldova (as far as I am aware), she mentioned that in her video interview that she did. That is all I know. If anyone can contribute, or even HELP to contribute, I would be very grateful. I am sorry if this has been long-winded, but I hope you made it through! X

9th January 2015, 09:23	#7
SadVarant Babes n' Burnouts Forum Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 1,851 Thanks: 9,539 Thanked 7,490 Times in 1,667 Posts	You may want to seek out an interview with Cherry Torn. She used to do such work before doing more conventional porn and fetish work that she does today. She's always seemed very friendly and open about her previous work to me. She'd probably be your best bet as the only person I know of that has done scat and then went on to reasonable success in the business. But yeah, it's a very niche thing that a lot of people look down upon. I disagree with Karmafan as, unlike child porn and bestiality, there is no harm involved in scat/piss etc porn to unconsenting participants. It really cannot be compared to the former two for that reason alone. But it's still looked on as gross and dirty, which is perhaps why many of the people involved get very defensive about it. It's easy to judge a persons entire character based only on what you know of their sexuality. But yeah, I'd definitely suggest seeking an interview with Cherry Torn about it. __________________

8th January 2015, 18:57	#2
Deadheart Registered User Addicted Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 278 Thanks: 626 Thanked 448 Times in 182 Posts	This is your life work? Writing a shit book lol

8th January 2015, 20:09	#3
jdbAG Registered User Addicted Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 388 Thanks: 1,970 Thanked 1,239 Times in 306 Posts	Gross.

9th January 2015, 02:12	#4
mortiis38 Junior Member Virgin Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Deadheart, no this is not my life-work, it's something I am working on (on and off) as a side-project amongst other things. And jdbAG - I understand the judgement, but it's really uncalled for, you opened the thread to just say "Gross"?

9th January 2015, 04:54	#5
Karmafan Who Cut The Cheese? Beyond Redemption Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 11,392 Thanks: 39,606 Thanked 37,720 Times in 9,830 Posts	In the hierarchy of porn fetishes the very bottom of the ladder is kiddie porn. The next step up above that is Beastiality, above that is scat. Everyone looks down on those 3 types of porn (and for good reason) as being disgusting (and highly illegal in most areas of the world). Of course folks that engage in those fetishes are going to be very guarded in what they say.

9th January 2015, 07:11	#6
pearldiver6 Registered User Addicted Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 598 Thanks: 1,345 Thanked 1,181 Times in 422 Posts	Long ago I bought a magazine called Film Threat Video that had an article 50 Underground Films You Must See. (or something similar) All under the radar things. One was in a video thing called Electric Blue and had a video shot by members of the GoGo's. Another was a film made about The Carpenters using only (as actors) Barbie Dolls. Another was a film about NAMBLA, and evidently from the article and interviews, included photos (and I assume in the film video) of some members. That seemed surprising as their twisted bent is illegal and frowned upon to put it mildly, in virtually the entire world. To expand upon what Karmafan says, it is not surprising folks who engage in activities that are highly illegal to of questionable legality would be reluctant to discuss those activities, or to go on record for a book. Or to be respond favorably to someone for all they know could be a cop. Things are very different today, with shows like To Catch A Predator and relative online anonymity, and people using it to try to meet (according to many PD's) underage people, it almost could seem there was a pedophile behind every bush. Back in the 70's that sort of thing was said to be very rare, and most if not all child pornography was produced in eastern Europe (from Cecil Adams, The Straight Dope) The US Govt, never a slouch in inciting panic, undertook something called Project Looking Glass. They took a bunch of those east Euro mags, cut them up, pasted them together, and made many new mags that they tried to sell to people so they could arrest them. Some of the cases made were so egregious that they were dismissed as entrapment. It was said some were sent offers to buy over fifty times. http://google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...1dCZWsN1_MRxyQ Other info may come up on a search of Looking Glass command and control stuff Air Force One..., anyway, one of the things I read said one fellow was suggested to the USPO as a candidate for this reverse sting by his PO - he was a sex offender. So there is moral ambuguity all over that. But such a broad thing can get the guilty and maybe sometimes the not guilty to not so guilty. There is something in Texas called Improper Photography. That sounds ambiguous does it not? If a cop sees someone taking pictures of apparent minor(s) they can be arrested for IP. It seems almost always after that when they go search the person's home and computer they find child pornography.

9th January 2015, 22:46	#10
mortiis38 Junior Member Virgin Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Karmafan, where I am from I think it is illegal to produce and sell it, but not to practice it your own home, film it and watch it (or even give it away), just the production and sale of it, I believe. I disagree also with comparing it to CP and Beastiality. Those are two entirely different spectrum's, and coming from someone who has experienced immense childhood sexual abuse (unwillingly, I might add), I can not find anything similar between that and Scat/Piss/Puke. I will seek out Cherry Torn (I have actually seen her K1nk.c0m work, and she is quite lovely).