Pro Wrestling Discussion

[Love Buzz]

Open discussion for fans about any and everything pro wrestling excluding the one that's sports entertainment as that's the wwe fans thread but we're gonna talk about them anyway.

[Love Buzz]

Even the I have no free time ever man had time for NWA. If that isn't reason enough to give it a try at x1.5 speed at least then I don't know what is. If I need to come across like a typing advertisement to get at least one person to watch something that isn't corporate horse shit then so be it.

[BadCompany5150]

To be honest lately, my love for pro wrestling has slowly been taken away from me. I've been a fan since '91 and it's always been the constant thing in my life but wrestling fans seem to hate wrestling more than people on the outside. AEW has actually got me tuning in week after week so far, yet all I see on social media is people bitch and moan about them. I saw people complaining today about them naming the section behind the curtain the Dusty Position instead of the Gorilla Position, it's disrespectful to Gorilla Moonson, except WCW called it the Jody Hamilton Position and TNA called it the GO Position, I wish people would realize it's okay for rules to be different in other companies.

I also dislike the gatekeeping people seem to have when it comes to New Japan, I'm not an expert on the company I like the stuff they do, but I'm more of an 80's/90's era All Japan guy but you say you like Omega vs Okada or anything newish about the company and people need to bat you down and "put you in your place" and talk about inoki-ism like that is the only years of New Japan you are allowed to like.

I just want to enjoy pro wrestling - I don't care if it's WWE (which sadly there is not much to enjoy about it nowadays) or DDT, I love all aspects of it.I can appreciate say Buddy Rogers vs Lou Thesz but at the same time I can love something totally ridiculous like the FMW No Rope Electrified Barbed Wire Swimming Pool Dynamite Double Hell Deathmatc. Wrestling is wrestling to me, I don't need the approval and the good boy pat on the head from a Jim Cornette. I'm just glad that now finally there is more choice for us to pick from has consumers, we have wanted this for a long time and we finally get it but some fans all they can do is complain.

Sorry for the rant but man, I love pro wrestling and I just want people to watch it for the hour or two hours it's on TV/YouTube and feel invested and enjoy the show, instead of worrying or rushing to twitter to talk about TV ratings, ticket sales and stuff that doesn't and shouldn't matter to us fans...

[Love Buzz]

Rant away man, it's good to get it out. I see your point on the negativity folks almost seem to thrive on when it comes to wrestling these days. Over emotional reactions mostly based on passion get lost in angry debates over pointless stuff they have no control over and trying to be a comedian to get likes and the equivalent with an ego boost seem to go hand in hand. Partly the reason why I created this because I was getting pissed at wwe lately and I was filling the swear jar, so make a new thread where we make them taboo and make the other wrestling just as relevant because the time has arrived where it should be. I stay away from social media so perhaps that may help you to take a break from it if you're an avid user and decompress. It's difficult to cut the wwe cord after so much investment but I'm gonna try because their product sucks and it's clear they only care about profits and making rich people happy.

I thoroughly enjoyed Powerrr again. Nice to see Sandow make a come back to wrestling and I liked Mr Anderson when he was Mr Kennedy. I've not seen him in a while so perhaps he'll start grating but if he ain't on every week then I can deal with that I look forward to the interviews every week and the wrestling isn't over the top so it's more relaxed, plus Cornette on commentary is always a bonus.

AEW this week was fun. Jericho let Darby shine although I predicted that Hager would get involved but it didn't diminish it much. Wasn't as hard hitting a street fight as I was expecting but we had a hardcore fix with Omega and Janela on Dark so didn't matter.

Lucha Bros are a stand out. Pentagon was just dripping charisma. Scorpio Sky has the it factor as well, he just looks like a cool dude you'd wanna hang with. Darby has something about him to, that calm mystery type of edge that draws me in. I was slightly hesitant when I saw Luchasaurus wasn't there but Marko definitely surpassed what I thought he was capable of. A great match indeed. Next week should be off the charts with Private Party and Lucha Bros.

[talltrekkie]

New Japan is expanding to the USA with the blandly named 'New Japan in America'. We're short on details, although they like the current TV situation with AXS TV and they're aiming to do shows in buildings with around 2k people to start(larger than Full Sail, smaller than AEW) with the US tours not happening at the same time as their Japan tours.

[Lando Griffin]

I absolutely loved Lucha Underground, but now that it's gone, I'm giving AEW a chance. So far it's been ok, but I feel a lot of the matches go on just a tad too long with too many near falls/kick outs at the 2 count. Glad to see Pentagon and Fenix there, since they were great in LU. Just wish Ivelise would turn up somewhere, since she was one of my faves.

[Love Buzz]

I'm not sure how I feel about New Japan in USA. Feels like they wanna kick ROH to the curb. I was thinking if ROH/MLW/Impact merged we'd have a third big viable alternative rather than three or now four fighting for third place.

So far it's been ok, but I feel a lot of the matches go on just a tad too long with too many near falls/kick outs at the 2 count.

That is fairly commonplace these days except in NWA.

Just wish Ivelise would turn up somewhere, since she was one of my faves.

Ivelisse was in the Casino Battle Royal for the AEW All Out Buy In show. Where that leads who knows.

Folks should check out Bound for Glory just for Acey Romero. Guy the size of a small truck taking mad falls in a ladder match lol.

[talltrekkie]

I know they have non-Dixie, non-Jarrett ownership now but I don't think I can ever trust Impact to be anything ever again. They should sell their women's division(or at least Tessa) to AEW, release everyone else and call it a day.

[Love Buzz]

I feel ROH/MLW/Impact are all in the same boat fighting each other but for who exactly. You got the big budget fans that are already swamped with AEW and WWE, if they watch all they put out on TV and YouTube, so they don't want more typically. Those avoiding the empire I feel are most likely to pick New Japan for it's match quality and NWA for it's fresh oldness lol to go with AEW. It leaves those three I mentioned to pick from the scraps.

ROH have PCO, whose contract is up soon so who knows, I haven't watched it in forever. He's still somewhat intriguing cause those mad wrestlers are for some reason lol. Impact have Tessa and I suppose Brian Cage. I watched BFGlory out of a curiosity, it is their Mania. I thought it was OK but consensus is it mostly sucked. And MLW have I suppose Teddy Hart, MJF, LA Park. It's decent, I watch it, but it can feel like a chore at times. Not sure if I'll watch Impact weekly, think I would if it was an hour, two is pushing it. ROH may as well sell even though they ironically have multi million owners in Sinclair who don't seem to give a crap. I don't think anybody has an answer for how ROH can turn it around and garner some interest.

[talltrekkie]

I've never watched ROH, but it seems to me like they got completely blindsided by the AEW announcement combined with the loss of the Bucks after having done, I think, a lot of the backstage grunt work for All Out.

Looking at tonight, I got SCU and the Lucha Bros going forward in the tag tournament. PAC and Moxley is going to be a treat although I suspect at least Kenny will show up sometime during it.