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CB Chuckles · 24th October 2011, 14:50

Hi Folks,
I'm a longtime Win/PC user but I've just recently started playing with Ubuntu and I like it. As I understand it, the Linux + certification mostly tests the command line operations in Linux. Since I'm interested in getting that cert, I'm thinking that I could use a good book to start teaching me the various command and switches, etc. Can anyone recommend a good how-to book suitable for a beginner?

Thanks in advance.

CB

lingam68 · 27th October 2011, 14:45

Hi CB,

maybe this online tutorial can help you starting:
http://ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/

Looks rather good. I also has a list of recommended books

Greets
lingam68

CB Chuckles · 27th October 2011, 15:14

That tutorial looks great. Thanks for the lead, lingam.

lingam68 · 27th October 2011, 16:24

I always like helping people that want their freedom back

Have fun!!

And be careful! The console is a powerful and sometimes dangerous tool

Deleted most off my home directory just two month ago because of one (!) extra space

CB Chuckles · 27th October 2011, 20:52

I'm scared enough of doing exactly that, so I'm gonna stick with working with Linux in a virtual. Gotta love Virtual Box!

Quote:

Originally Posted by lingam68

I always like helping people that want their freedom back

Have fun!!

And be careful! The console is a powerful and sometimes dangerous tool

Deleted most off my home directory just two month ago because of one (!) extra space

Mutikasa · 26th November 2011, 18:39

do as much as u can from command line and when you learn you will see it's better than clicking mouse, except of course using multimedia like movies, browsing etc.
learn bash scripting so you can automate tasks, and after get linux from scratch and build your own linux.

matachin · 26th November 2011, 21:05

I take the opposite approach on some things, Mutikasa.

If you're using a good distro you don't have to build from source unless you want to. I think the advice that OpenBSD gives is perfect; don't re-build the core system or kernel from source unless you really know what you're doing and know how what you _could_ screw up may affect your security. Automated tools and faqs to help one along are fine, but whatever OS you choose you better damned well make an attempt to understand what's up before asking google. Pie is for eating, not going on your face - with one exception.

Even browsing and multimedia can be done from the command line. There are text-mode browsers that can in-line images, and mplayer is perfectly capable w/o a GUI as long as you know the keyboard shortcuts.

Do whatever you want to build up that experience. Build a kernel, alias rm to rm -i until you don't need that net, learn screen or tmux, write a system backup script that will give you media to do a bare-metal recovery, find out the differences in the various shells. It's probably a good idea to start this in a chroot; if you screw that up you can just untarball your last backup of it. If you learn the concepts, you'll find that working on any other *nix system is a lot easier.

Example: my monitor & video card died a few months ago. Another system which I could have used had a bad PSU that I hadn't replaced. I dug out an old serial terminal, attached it via a USB -> serial adapter, and was able to diagnose the card as gone and the monitor as a likely good. Got a new monitor & card delivered on a Monday and was so comfortable I waited til the weekend to swap the cards.

Mutikasa · 27th November 2011, 03:50

i know there's text browsers but i always find some feature lacking. Lynx is my favorite but you can't download and browse at the same time. I tried to use ww3 which can inline images but something was wrong with it.
I didn't know u can watch videos without GUI. How's that working?

matachin · 1st December 2011, 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutikasa

i know there's text browsers but i always find some feature lacking. Lynx is my favorite but you can't download and browse at the same time. I tried to use ww3 which can inline images but something was wrong with it.
I didn't know u can watch videos without GUI. How's that working?

You might want to look at a browser called links. I had forgotten about w3, but then again emacs is a bit easy to get lost in. Screen/tmux + a text mode browser is fine unless someone was crazy enough to code up a tabbed text mode browser.

As for for mplayer - the default behavior depends on the executable called. /usr/bin/mplayer will just open the video window and expect you to control it via keyboard. I forget whether it's just my config or the distro's default, but mplayer closes automatically at the end of a file for me.

As far as true command-line movie viewing, there is a text output filter for mplayer. One of these days I'm just going to fire it up on a real VT100 compatible terminal. It probably requires a bit more then 9600 8N1, but I think it does framedropping anyways.

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matachin Virgin Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7 Thanks: 254 Thanked 26 Times in 6 Posts	I take the opposite approach on some things, Mutikasa. If you're using a good distro you don't have to build from source unless you want to. I think the advice that OpenBSD gives is perfect; don't re-build the core system or kernel from source unless you really know what you're doing and know how what you _could_ screw up may affect your security. Automated tools and faqs to help one along are fine, but whatever OS you choose you better damned well make an attempt to understand what's up before asking google. Pie is for eating, not going on your face - with one exception. Even browsing and multimedia can be done from the command line. There are text-mode browsers that can in-line images, and mplayer is perfectly capable w/o a GUI as long as you know the keyboard shortcuts. Do whatever you want to build up that experience. Build a kernel, alias rm to rm -i until you don't need that net, learn screen or tmux, write a system backup script that will give you media to do a bare-metal recovery, find out the differences in the various shells. It's probably a good idea to start this in a chroot; if you screw that up you can just untarball your last backup of it. If you learn the concepts, you'll find that working on any other *nix system is a lot easier. Example: my monitor & video card died a few months ago. Another system which I could have used had a bad PSU that I hadn't replaced. I dug out an old serial terminal, attached it via a USB -> serial adapter, and was able to diagnose the card as gone and the monitor as a likely good. Got a new monitor & card delivered on a Monday and was so comfortable I waited til the weekend to swap the cards.

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