Amber Alert: generic sense

[Space Tiger]

A name? So that's the reason "amber" isn't translated
In Mexico you'll only see amber alerts at specific channels and at an specific time

Traffic lights are green, amber, red

[pelham456]

A name? So that's the reason "amber" isn't translated

amber hagerman, one particular child abduction/murder that catalyzed the formation of the system. there were other versions and other names in the early days; amber eventually won out...in part so that they could kludge "america's missing: broadcast emergency response" onto the acronym.

so i suggest UK / england should have "umber alert" and "ember alert", respectively.

mexico could easily form "member alert".

won't work for many, but u, e, and m seem particularly easy.

[SLAYER]

Originally Posted by pelham456

"member alert"

ha ha

Holy shit we got a code red member alert...run for the hills

[pelham456]

@cottonrat: did some reading and amber alerts are indeed restricted to juveniles. u may well be seeing alerts for lost elderly, but they're not actually amber alerts (which affects how they're propagated).

more like "slumber alerts"....

btw, what the heck are "nankies"? pilot ep del is trying to flog a batch.

can't find it in any slang dicts.

sounds like some cross between nappies and hankies, but what do i know.

[pelham456]

few more:

1) "rat" for some holiday thing. "BBC is having a rat for christmas". raffle?

2) tinko? tinkho? tin co? etc -- old show abt WWII? thought this would be an easy google!

3) "cudgel of tulips". hmmm. cudgel means a CLUB (stick) for beating someone; possibly a WALKING STICK (sheleighleigh). so does it just mean a cluster of tulips bundled up like these?

i see, btw, that "tulip" also means "beer glass" to you guys. how so? is this CRS somehow?

doesn't fit the context, tho. he clearly says cudgel of tulips "...from the flower man".

4) "as they say in the 'orsic..."

could be orsek, orsack, 'orsesick, i dunno. i've googled them all.

5) fly pitcher

this one i know -- means market trader / vendor. question is: does it come from being outdoors surrounded by FLIES (why then "pitcher"?), or does it have something to do with them TOSSING the goods at you? i.e. "fly" as in a BASEBALL pop fly?

once again, nary a peep on google.


TIA!!

[Gwynd]

Originally Posted by pelham456

btw, what the heck are "nankies"? pilot ep del is trying to flog a batch.
.

A "Hanky" or Handkerchief: Are you watching Only Fools and Horses, they speak a form of "Mockney" in that, it is not English. A Hanky become A anky (because he drops the "H", this then become unpronouncable and demands the use of "an" instead of "a")

Originally Posted by pelham456

few more:

1) "rat" for some holiday thing. "BBC is having a rat for christmas". raffle?

2) tinko? tinkho? tin co? etc -- old show abt WWII? thought this would be an easy google!

3) "cudgel of tulips". hmmm. cudgel means a CLUB (stick) for beating someone; possibly a WALKING STICK (sheleighleigh). so does it just mean a cluster of tulips bundled up like these?

i see, btw, that "tulip" also means "beer glass" to you guys. how so? is this CRS somehow?

doesn't fit the context, tho. he clearly says cudgel of tulips "...from the flower man".

4) "as they say in the 'orsic..."

could be orsek, orsack, 'orsesick, i dunno. i've googled them all.

5) fly pitcher

this one i know -- means market trader / vendor. question is: does it come from being outdoors surrounded by FLIES (why then "pitcher"?), or does it have something to do with them TOSSING the goods at you? i.e. "fly" as in a BASEBALL pop fly?

once again, nary a peep on google.

Without context, hard to work out.

TIA!!

1) May be a reference to poverty, cannot afford to buy a turkey, so catching a rat to have for Xmas dinner?

2) Tenko http://imdb.com%2ftitle%2ftt0081...9fnCg_BeHPfmk-

3) Not sure, only reference I can find to this is a "Celtic" martial arts shop.

4) If this is something related to Del Boy and his love of French (more accurately slaughtering of French) "as they say in the Basque" - which of course is in Spain, but that was part of the joke.? It may be somewhere else, without seeing the scene, hard to translate, I only remember "Basque" and "Dordogne".

5) You "pitch" a tent, fly-pitchers tend to use tents. I assume the fly is either because tents have fly flaps, or because they appear and dissappear like a fly does, landing on one spot then another.

[Gwynd]

EDIT to above
Cudgel - Codgel/Cotchell is cockney for to put roughley together "A codgel/cotchell of tulips" = "a rough bunch of tulips"?

According to Collins: "Possibly from the days of Covent garden fruit market when left over fruit was taken home by workers - eg. taking home a cotchel of fruit."

[pelham456]

0) so nanky is just delspeak ("trotney"!) for hanky?

1) full dialogue was along the lines of:

ALBERT (looking at tv times): "hey, check it out, BBC is having a rat for christmas"
RODNEY: "funny that. why don't they have a turkey like everyone else?"

2) geesh. ud think google could find tenko out of "tinko...WWII".

reminds me of how, after all the "did you mean"s it's pitched at me over the years, it couldn't get from "ho chih minh" to "ho chi minh" the time i searched on the former.

4) basque?

i think i've heard him say that in other eps, but this definitely sounded like "orsic". any other regions LIKE basque with a closer name?

5) ahhh...pitch a TENT. yeah, i'll buy that.

fly for zipper seems a bit off tho. i propose a FOURTH source now: how about fly meaning "ad hoc" as in "on the fly" or "fly by night"? pitching a tent on the fly, meaning not overnight/permanent?

i dunno. in any case, you're definitely not getting an image of anyone TOSSING goods, right? if not baseball, i figured cricket or something might have some actual term "fly pitcher".

[Gwynd]

Originally Posted by pelham456

0) so nanky is just delspeak ("trotney"!) for hanky?

1) full dialogue was along the lines of:

ALBERT (looking at tv times): "hey, check it out, BBC is having a rat for christmas"
RODNEY: "funny that. why don't they have a turkey like everyone else?"

2) geesh. ud think google could find tenko out of "tinko...WWII".

reminds me of how, after all the "did you mean"s it's pitched at me over the years, it couldn't get from "ho chih minh" to "ho chi minh" the time i searched on the former.

4) basque?

i think i've heard him say that in other eps, but this definitely sounded like "orsic". any other regions LIKE basque with a closer name?

5) ahhh...pitch a TENT. yeah, i'll buy that.

fly for zipper seems a bit off tho. i propose a FOURTH source now: how about fly meaning "ad hoc" as in "on the fly" or "fly by night"? pitching a tent on the fly, meaning not overnight/permanent?

i dunno. in any case, you're definitely not getting an image of anyone TOSSING goods, right? if not baseball, i figured cricket or something might have some actual term "fly pitcher".

0) I think this is just a standard English mutation of the pronounciation, I've heard it in Wales.

1) I can't find this in an OFAH script search. Although Rodney has taken it as indicating a rat for food.
Del, depending on when it was filmed could have been referring to:

One of the Boomtown Rats
ITV Stalwart "Roland Rat"
BBC Stalwart "Basil Brush"

Appearing on the BBC Christmas schedule that year, or something else entirely. Without seeing/or remembering the episode I can't be certain.

4) There probably are other regions, not sure where it could be, I keep trying to run the words around my head in a "Del Boy" accent. If something pops up, I'll post it.

5) See my second part of explanation, landing and disappearing like a fly on food.

[Gwynd]

You may also find this helps, Del's "foreign" terminology.#
There are a few other "as they say in" locations in this list:

adegos - Del's effort at adios. Spanish for goodbye.
a fait acopian - Del's French for "don't upset yourself".
Ajax - an expression of greeting usually to someone from the Netherlands.
al dente! - Spanish for "there you go!"
allemagne dix points - phrase similar to "such is life", possibly Del picked this up from European Song Contest.
apres moi la deluge - French meaning, "when I'm dead, all others may die too".
argent comptant - French from Cannes meaning, "brill".
au contraire - French for "hang on a minute"
au revoir - French for "hello".
au fait - Del likes using this but pronounces it "oh fate".
bain marie - no problem.
boeuf a la mode - phrase similar to "you win some and lose some"
bonjour - French for "goodbye!"
bonnet de douche - French and impressive.
bonetti bonetti - Del's best Italian.
bon appetit - French for "I hope you choke on the potatoes"
catalogue raisonne - Hold on, as they say in Beritz.
Chateauneuf du Pape! - Reserved for an explosive situation.
chasse de forme - meaning, "the diamonds are good" in French.
conseil d'etat - He helps me, I help him as they say in Grenobles.
creme de la menthe - French for the "very best"
di stefano - Italian for "well done".
Don Ochetti - Del used this as a greeting, until he realised it was the name of a Mafia boss.
fabrique belgique - I agree or approve in Belgium.
fromage frais! - Like Eureka! (when the penny has dropped)
je suis je reste - superb according to Del.
joie de vivre! - an exclamation that impresses or French for putting a bit of life back into your own life.
Juan - the name of all Spanish waiters.
mais oui - no problem, my pleasure.
mange tout- my pleasure, variation like above.
menage a trois - an exclamation of surprise.
Miguel - Del's name for all Portuguese barmen.
münchengladbach - German for "hello".
Moet Champagne- The only champagne Del knows, and prounces like poet champers.
moi - French and classy way of saying "me".
Mon dieu!- exclamation implying, "you idiot".
oeuf sur la plat - French for "it's clear cut".
oh mai oui, mon pleasure - French, sophisticated Del.
Pas de Calais - approving or divine.
Pate foie gras - French for liver sausage, goes well with Moet Champers.
Pot Pourri! - French for "I don't believe it!"
plume de ma tante - expression of exasperation like "Gordon Bennett".
polizia - Del can say police in more than one language.
puscas puscas - approval, it's alright in Spanish.
rein a dire, rein a faire - Perplexing French Del picked up from Lordes.
raisse de chassie - more French Del picked up from Dieppe.
Revenons a nos moutonst - apparently a quote from the guv'nor of Bastille. French for 'I've got to do something quick.'
servir frais mois non glace - French for "it could of been on the top floor".
si danke schon, bonjour - proves how multi-lingual Del is (Spanish, German and French)
tel aviv - Del reckons the French use this for "you can never tell".
tete de veau- Del reckons the French use this for "every ones a winner".
tete-a-tete - A head to head meeting with drug barons.
tres bien ensemble - French for possessing a sense of occasion.
Vive la France- it's what you say with respect to the American national anthem.
tres bien ensemble - French for possessing a sense of occasion.
Voila! - The French say it after T-cutting a square inch of the Capri Ghia, it's a way of encouraging Rodney to finish the rest of the car off.