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Old 29th April 2021, 16:52   #1
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Why do Russians say things like "cute girl on the kitchen" instead of "cute girl in the kitchen"?

Serious question. I'm interested in languages and would like to know. Thanks.
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Perhaps she was on a table or countertop but they were interrupted before finishing the sentence!

This is one of those lost in translation cases as happens in many second languge countries. The literal translation from Russian to English is where the discrepancy occurs. In early days they would learn english through text not speech and that has been the norm in tesching English to Russian students.

I speak four languages fluently however still make small errors such as these that get the odd chuckle.

Im sure the grammar police will be here momentarily to clear things up.
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There's a similar sort of disparity in the English language when talking about islands.
You could say Tommy was in the Isle of Wight.
Or equally that Tommy was on the Isle of Wight, and it is understood to mean the same thing.

(Just don't ask me what he was doing there )
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There's a similar sort of disparity in the English language when talking about islands.
You could say Tommy was in the Isle of Wight.
Or equally that Tommy was on the Isle of Wight, and it is understood to mean the same thing.

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I had a good chuckle from your last line. You must know that if Johnny was with him that they were up to no good.

Before her setback Kelli and I were set to visit the Isle of Man which is part of her location shoot. When that is back on track I will make a point of checking in on Tommy for you, it is surely only a puddle jump between Man and Wight?

In my observation I have noticed that there appear to be a lot of wasted r's and h's in British English as compared to North American English. Then again the USA has managed to bastardize the English language quite nicely themselves.

K minored in linguistics in university and is a total stickler when it comes to grammar however you would never know it by reading her posts here that she says she dumbs down to a high school level and taunts the grammar police at times. That's my girl always stirring the pot.
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Why do Russians say things like "cute girl on the kitchen" instead of "cute girl in the kitchen"?

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So you have a cute girl on the kitchen, do you? You must be in the pictures section.

Imagine if you have my proclivities; then you face girls who take spankings "in" their butt and wear their buttplugs "on" their butt.

It used to annoy me; however, after many years of this, custom hath made it a property of easiness.

It is simply one of the internetisms that you must accept to be functional here.

I mean, afterall, our names aren't really Wanker1, knobsnot, IJoe, and WhatsHisFace.

Just accept it as an alternate reality. Not necessarily negative, but alternate.
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prepositions are notoriously fickle. even between english speaking countries, there is wide variation -- yanks live "on" a street, brits live "in" one. brits go "to" a store; yanks and ozzies often just "go the store".

in some languages u receive a gift "from" someone, in others u receive it "of" someone or "by" someone. in japanese u basically receive it "at" someone -- nonnative speakers forever need to suppress the urge to (incorrectly) stick "from" into such sentences.

likewise for passive setups: in malay u can be hit "by" something or "of" something. japanese, again, has a construction more like "at something"; so basically "i was hit at a bus yesterday". obviously this needs to be "by" in english.

put the other way, a given preposition in a particular lang can correspond to english "in" "at" "to" "of" "for" "from" "by" -- w/e -- willy-nilly, depending on construction. i dunno abt russian, specifically, but if in/on confusion is the worst mistake they're making, i'd say they're doing pretty well. personally, i'm far more afraid of foreign pr0n getting "he" and "she" mixed up.....
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