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22nd July 2017, 19:03 | #1 |
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http://cnn.com/2017/07/20/us/florida-teens-drowning-man/index.html I won't blame it on their age. I won't blame it on their generation. Those thing are irrelevant. I blame it on more heartless fucks who prefer to show off on social media than do anything productive and helpful. (CNN) A group of Florida teens who taunted a drowning man while filming his death from afar will not be criminally charged, according to police. In the more than two-minute long video, the five teen boys -- who are between the ages of 14 and 16 -- can be heard laughing as the man struggles to stay afloat, police say, in a pond near his family's Cocoa, Florida, home. Instead of calling for help, the teens recorded the incident on a cell phone, chuckling during the victim's final moments. The teens can be heard warning the man that he was "going to die" and they were not going to help him. At one point, one of the teen boys can be heard laughing, saying "he dead." Police: Family of victim 'frustrated' in lack of accountability The state of Florida currently does not have a law where a citizen is obligated to render aid or call for help for anyone in distress. "If there was (a law like that) we would charge them," Cocoa Police Department spokeswoman Yvonne Martinez told CNN by phone. "The family is frustrated ... the detectives are frustrated, that we cannot hold anyone accountable for this," Martinez added. "No one deserves to go like that." Teens showed no remorse over drowning death Police say the incident happened on July 9, but even after the teens recorded the video and witnessed the man drown, they did nothing to alert authorities. "At least one of the teens expressed no remorse while being interviewed by detectives," Martinez said, claiming the fact that they did not report the incident to authorities further speaks to their lack of remorse. The family of the victim, identified as 31-year-old Jamel Dunn, initially filed a missing person's report on July 12, three days after he had already drowned. His body was recovered from the water on July 14. Victim's sister posted drowning video on Facebook A woman who identified herself as Dunn's sister, Simone Scott, said she received the video of her brother's drowning on Saturday. She subsequently posted the video publicly on Facebook. The state attorney's office urged the media "out of concern for the affected family and friends of Mr. Dunn that it not be published in whole or in part." Given that Mr. Dunn's sister has encouraged the public to share the video, CNN has chosen to publish a small portion of the incident, as well as the audio of the teens' comments in full. Police: Victim was struggling for 10 minutes before death Police say that on the morning he drowned, Dunn had gotten into a "verbal altercation" with his mother and "possibly his fiancé," during which he told his fiancé to "leave the house," Martinez said. "(His fiancé) left the home at about 12:40 p.m. Based on the video, he went into the water at about 12:50 p.m. and then drowned. He was in the water struggling for one or two minutes for the video portion," Martinez told CNN. "We don't have anything criminal resulting from that incident," Martinez said. "Our detectives were trying to get potentially if a negligence law could apply. The state attorney advises it doesn't meet standard for a criminal charge." "We are deeply saddened and shocked at both the manner in which Mr. Dunn lost his life and the actions of the witnesses to this tragedy," the state attorney's office said in a statement. "While the incident depicted on the recording does not give rise to sufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution under Florida statutes, we can find no moral justification for either the behavior of persons heard on the recording or the deliberate decision not to render aid to Mr. Dunn." In a statement, Cocoa police chief Mike Cantaloupe said he hopes Dunn's death will lead to new laws that would "apply to this scenario." "As law enforcement officers, we are sworn to uphold and enforce the laws," he said. "Unfortunately, there are no laws in Florida that apply to this scenario. Perhaps this case may be what's needed to pass new laws." "As chief of police, there are times when I wish I could do more. But I'm a firm believer in that good will always win over evil," he added. "It may not come in our lifetime, but there will be justice." The teens were interviewed by police, during which they admitted to being in the area "smoking weed," police said. Their identities have not been released because they are juveniles who committed no crime, police say. But the nature of the incident has troubled even the most seasoned law enforcement officials. "I've been doing this a long time, probably 20 years or more ... I was horrified. My jaw dropped," Martinez said. "To think that anyone would just lack any kind of moral conscience to call for help," Martinez said. "It's one thing to see something and not want to put yourself at risk, but to not call anybody, to sit there and to laugh and humiliate this person is beyond my comprehension." "I feel like something should be done to (the teens)," Dunn's sister said in a Facebook Live video she posted on Thursday. "I don't care if it's probation or something, it just needs to be an eye-opener. A lesson learned." "If they can sit there and watch somebody die in front of their eyes, imagine what they're going to do when they get older. Where's the morals?" she asked. |
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They can't be charged because Florida does not have a law that requires any individual to assist or render aid or call for help (like 911) when someone is in trouble including life and death situations.
There shouldn't be a law that compels people to help others or not. It's basic human decency to help others - we all live on this blue planet together and we all breathe the same air. The identities of the 5 fuckheads have not been released because they are underage and they haven't been charged with any crimes. I think their identities should be released to the public so every one will know who these assholes are and make sure they will never get a job or be admitted into schools or even be given social welfare assistance. Quote:
Getting likes and retweets on Facebook and Twitter is more important than helping someone who is in imminent danger, injury or death. It's like a case we had here in Texas about 2 years ago after a highway accident that left the driver of a car trapped in it while it was on fire and everyone except maybe one person tried to save that driver. Everyone else stood around and were recording videos with their phones. The one person who was attempting to save the driver kept begging them to help and none of them did. I think the driver didn't make it and he ended up burning to death. |
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22nd July 2017, 20:21 | #3 |
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They should post the names of the 5 teens in the local newspaper so others can help them to find accountability.
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These are the morons we have to leave the world to for them to govern and work the land and produce enough food and resources to feed everyone. They are not going to make it. Most of them will cry like babies if they get their hands dirty just taking out the trash. They don't know hardship. If there is another major war and the draft is reinstituded, none of them will survive the first week of boot camp. What? No cell phone? No social network in the armed forces? Oh god forbid they have to miss Twitter and Facebook and Snapchat and Instagram for just one hour, much less one day. Also during World War 1 and 2, people in every country that was involved were running over each other to be the first to sign up to fight. That sense of duty is no longer around in today's youth. Everyone is out for themselves. I am an employer and I see most of them can't even bear to be at work for 4 hours or 8 hours. But they want that money to buy all the nice bling bling things but they don't want to work for it. They somehow think it's owed to them. |
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I watched that clip, and was filled with sadness by the way those people joked and laughed while a fellow human drowned.
I can't say whether this was a generational issue, but the fact of the matter fills me with dread...
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When I was a kid if I was out and about like at the park or riding my bike on the street without my parents around and I did something wrong, a stranger would grab me, scold me, lecture me, even give me a whooping if necessary and then ask me where I lived and who my parents were.
He or she would make me take him or her to my parents where my parents will offer said stranger or strangers coffee, have a good chit chat like they were old friends, thank them for taking care of business and then after they have left, my parents would punish me again. Now with all this government over reach, if a parent even as much as give one single light swap on the bottom of their child in public or in private, someone will call the Police, scream child abuse, and that child and that parent will be separated and it will take long amount of time and money for so parent to be reunited with their child. There are even so called 'parenting experts' who are saying children shouldn't be punished or spanked and that the best way to raise them is to reward behavior, both good and bad. It's no wonder so many children nowadays grow up to be arrogant self-entitled brats and so many of them do not know right or wrong: if they can do it, even if it's wrong, it's right for them to without a second thought and that includes committing crimes and killing a fellow human being. Then their parents will go on TV in front of the news media and say shit like: Johnny was always a good boy. He didn't mean to kill Jack and Jill. Please don't throw him in prison!! |
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I agree that the teens shouldn't be charged. They didn't do anything but laugh at and record the incident. As inappropriate as their behavior was, they didn't do anything to harm the victim. And although the family's frustration is something with which many can sympathize, it does not give them license to obligate anyone or create a liability for this death. The victim drowned. That's it. "Maybe someone could've helped!" Should have; would have; could have; but didn't. Condolences to the family and wish them relief in the mourning period.
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