Elon Musk needs to be stopped.

[ViceLikeEye]

He is such a fraud / con artist. He's nothing more than an arrogant hype man for a shit company. Much like Steve Jobs, Musk is worshiped and his flock of sheep hang on his every word.

First it's cars with "autopilot", that are killing people because no one has the tech to make a true autopilot for the road yet. And when people die because of their "technology" they say it's operator error and weasel their way out of any responsibility. U.S. opens safety probe into Tesla autopilot crashes:

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Apparently the cars have shit build quality too.

Tesla Model Y Owners Find Cooling System Cobbled Together With Home Depot-Grade Fake Wood

http://thedrive.com/tech/36274/tesla-model-y-owners-find-cooling-system-cobbled-together-with-home-depot-grade-fake-wood

This is a car that starts at $40,000 before optioning it.

Then Musk/Tesla is stealing government money (grants) to build hot swappable batteries, then scraping the project before doing anything of value, BUT keeping all the money (hundreds of millions of dollars).

Where's the Tesla Truck? Most likely vaporware. Will all those people be able to get their $100 pre order back? Unlikely. Even if this thing sees the light of day, it will a piece of shit just like the rest of Tesla's lineup.

The latest nonsense: "Elon Musk unveils plan for 'Tesla Bot' with man dancing in a bodysuit".

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For clarification, I'm not anti-electric car or anti-technology, I'm anti-Musk. I too wanted to believe he was the answer to many of our problems, but the more I looked, the more I saw that he's a rich shitbag getting more rich off of taxpayers and morons because they believe he is, "Electric Jesus".

[vimla]

With the video there they said the where 1 person killed using autopilot in like 7 years, and that isn't much.

I would rather trust a computer driving a car then a human any day of the week, you never know what the other person on the road is influced by alchohol, medication that can hamper your judgement on the road, or the person can be sleepy or tired after hard day of work or lack of sleep

There are many factors that humans are that computers aren't, as they never get tired etc.

And this statistic I just got from a google search:

Annual United States Road Crash Statistics
More than 38,000 people die every year in crashes on U.S. roadways. The U.S. traffic fatality rate is 12.4 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. An additional 4.4 million are injured seriously enough to require medical attention.

I'm not saying the tesla autopilot is perfect, but it seems like a much safer bet then humans right now

[ViceLikeEye]

After watching this podcast, I was concerned that a Tesla gets confused with road cones, among many other things.

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I can't speak for anyone else, but I trust my driving a hell of a lot more than a computer - especially when that computer is attached to a 3 ton (or more) missile AKA a car. And if you can't operate a 3 ton missile, you shouldn't drive - no matter what the reason - there's no excuse - especially seeing as there is no real autopilot YET.

[vimla]

I'm sure you're a good driver, but on the road you must trust every driver that passes you is on full alert and isn't distracted on their phone or maybe has had a bad day.

You can drive perfectly but a driver on the opposite lane may not and he causes a crash even if you drove perfectly, there are so many things we can be distracted by today.

Computers doesn't get tired,drunk, has feelings that impact their judgement, but we human drivers must have a trust system between every driver you passe on the road and in a weird way I would feel safer if that driver where computer then a human at this point.

[mental]

Autopilot is a good feature, Because of inattentive or simply bad drivers even the simple features like auto braking & making sure you stay in your lane have prevented countless accidents/deaths, but for now autopilot is just a little extra help driving and should not be relied on for full control, drivers should stay alert behind the wheel at all times even when using autopilot and be ready to instantly take over if needed, I don't own a vehicle with autopilot but I'm sure the owners manual will say something like that.
As for now i would not trust it to drive my car, I don't even like ridding as a passenger with another person driving.


Those people that you see sleeping, playing games on their phones, or even in the back seat, doing anything except paying attention are morons.

The technology is no where that good yet, We are at least several decades away from safe true self driving cars like you see in the sci-fi movies. It will probably not actually be safe until all human driven vehicles are gone and there are nothing but self driving cars on the road that humans have no control over at all, they will not do unpredictable, stupid & crazy things like human drivers. Every car will communicate with every other car within miles of it and instantly know when there is any changes in the roads, traffic or when any car makes a change, they will probably also be linked to traffic cameras, which will most likely cover every inch of every city by then, and be able to see anything even heading for the streets and take preemptive actions to prevent the possible problem.

There will still be a few accidents some things are just unavoidable, like a person or animal steps/runs into traffic at the last second or something falls off another vehicle because it was not secured properly, no matter how smart the cars are or how fast the cars can react you just can't avoid things like that, but if we are able to reach that level of technology all the driver caused accidents will be non existent anymore.

Imagine no more speeders or drunk drivers, those 2 alone accounts for almost 2 thirds of all accidents killing about 20,000 people and injuring hundreds of thousands more every year in the U.S. Google shows each year 1.35 million people are killed on roadways worldwide, and costs trillions of dollars in damage, medical & other costs, Almost none of that would happen anymore.

If they can actually pull it off, self driving cars may be one of the best things mankind ever invented to save us from ourselves.

[Namcot]

I think they made a mistake when they named it autopilot.

[SynchroDub]

IMHO, Autopilot works great on jets, where there can be very low visibility, when pilots fly long-haul and need to take a lunch/dinner/breakfast/toilet/nap break, or in extreme situations to prevent the plane from crashing.
But definitely not in cars, where you can always stop, in case you're tired or need to take a shiz.
And if you're too drunk or high to drive, to begin with, I don't think the autopilot will save you from crushing pedestrians or take off in a highway at 300mph.

Just my 2 cents.

As far as Elon Musk goes, i'm definitely not a big of him.

[mental]

Originally Posted by Namcot

I think they made a mistake when they named it autopilot.

Yeah, they should just call it driver assist or something similar, autopilot just makes people think they don't have to pay attention or do anything themselves.

[Namcot]

Originally Posted by mental

Yeah, they should just call it driver assist or something similar, autopilot just makes people think they don't have to pay attention or do anything themselves.

My exact thoughts. The name is confusing and deceiving. Maybe one day 20 years from now when cars really do drive themselves, they can name it autopilot.

According to these, autopilot on aircraft are not really 100% autopilot.

http://cnbc.com/2015/03/26/autopilot-what-the-system-can-and-cant-do.html

http://aitrends.com/ai-insider/airplane-autopilot-systems-self-driving-car-ai/

[JustKelli]

Originally Posted by Namcot

I think they made a mistake when they named it autopilot.

The only reason why you still see pilots on jet planes is because it reassures the passengers but the pilots don't even fly the plane, the computer does all the work they're just a figurehead these days. Luckily there are a lot of redundancies built into the systems in case one fails another one kicks in and if that one fails another one kicks in that's the only thing keeping us from going into the sides of mountains on a regular basis.

My company leases a Lear16 and I get to learn a lot about flying systems and redundancies with all that time in the air talking to the pilot who doesn't seem to be doing a lot of anything else other than talking LOL

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Everyone knows that Elon Musk is an idiot but this news is just out that Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic was just grounded by the FAA because of that last wobbly flight. You can just chalk this one up to politics and infighting between those three billionaires that are trying to outdo each other. Someone was just bought off