Will CGI make Pornstars redundant?

[Karmafan]

At least if they make CGI porn we won't have to hear all the safety nazi's hollaring for condoms.

[SirPsychoSexy]

i have hope about technology. probably like in 5-7 years there will be no difference and i will be have perfect 3d copy of Shyla and i will be able making any porn fantasy on my computer. then no one gonna be worry anymore if his fav pornstar is retired or not.

[thruster315]

While CGI might solve some of the issues plaguing the industry I'm sure there will be more problems that it'll cause. The most obvious one will be the loss of jobs for some of these actors & actresses. All the business will need, if this were to pass will be some high tech geek who can pose and do whatever he/ she feels is sexy & erotic on film. Even with live actors & actresses performing sometimes that electricity, erotic heat, and chemistry is tough to get across on film. I can't imagine the intensity or the chemistry between pixels being better than what a living breathing hottie can bring to the screen.

[SaintsDecay]

Originally Posted by KeepItReal

What we think is expensive and cutting edge today, is quickly becoming dirt cheap and almost obsolete tomorrow. This pace of change is increasing exponentially so I'd be very surprised if perfectly realistic CGI porn is not all the rage in 40 years!

Very true. And I believe that there is a lot of technology that is already out there which is only used by militaries, and that will seep into public use over time as well. Hell, that was how the internet got started. People are making great strides.

From speaking with 3D artists, I know that what they do does take time. Each shot takes hours of work and rendering. And some have taken it to the point of clips. I've seen some stuff from artists like Project Bellerophon that is truly great in that department, but these clips are generally short. But the key point is that it can be done and it can be mastered even now. Again, I don't believe that 3D porn will outdo old fashioned human-on-human, but it will be big.

Originally Posted by KeepItReal

Thanks to SaintsDecay for the heads-up on Hitmanx3z! This guy is amazing!

No problem. I found this guy through random mixes I saw on sites like PS and it was the best work I'd ever seen. Other artists I'd recommend are Project Bellerophon (who specializes in sci-fi themed porn, especially concerning Twi'leks and so on), IckyCrane (the 3D cumshot king), Blackadder (the 3D big boob king). The Knight Shines Bright is also good-- he does a lot of work with Night Elves and medieval beasts like Weres and Trolls. Hot stuff.

There is also a lot of vanilla 3D stuff out there, but I was never really interested in that. For some reason, I've always liked elves and Twi'leks and that sort of thing because I'm just nerdy, and 3D artists make these mythical figures sexual. It just takes the fantasy to the next level, and if it's done right, it can be hotter than mainstream porn.

As you noticed, I call it 3D porn. It actually is CGI and not 3D, but 3D is what it's called in the industry.

It will basically become a niche. Some people want to see it and get off on it, some people wont, kinda like a piss on your face gangbang or something. I guess that is fetish, but you now what I mean.

as for making human pornstars redundant.

Heart - Never - YouTube

Heart - Never - YouTube

[thruster315]

Hell if I ever want to see the porn equivalent of Jar Jar Binks.

I'm not sure if it's going to a "fetish" but more of a different genre. I think this will be more of the fantasy realm. Don't get me wrong- in essence all porn is fantasy, but I can see CGi taking it one step further- but not necessarily for the better.

I can see how it can be pushed to the point of being ridiculous too. One thought over inflated bolt on fake silicone tits were odd? Just wait; we'll be seeing 58FFFs, 14 foot cocks, endlessly deep pussies, cumshots that rival the Hoover Dam's spring release, and Lord knows what else that go beyond the realm of believability.

[AwesomePossum1]

As mentioned before, the costs and time-consuming nature of good quality almost uncanny valley levels of CGI will probably ensure that porn actors and actresses have a job well into the future. Plus, there will be people like me who prefer the real thing even if I couldn't tell the difference without being told.

[Armanoïd]

Originally Posted by thruster315

While CGI might solve some of the issues plaguing the industry I'm sure there will be more problems that it'll cause. The most obvious one will be the loss of jobs for some of these actors & actresses. All the business will need, if this were to pass will be some high tech geek who can pose and do whatever he/ she feels is sexy & erotic on film. Even with live actors & actresses performing sometimes that electricity, erotic heat, and chemistry is tough to get across on film. I can't imagine the intensity or the chemistry between pixels being better than what a living breathing hottie can bring to the screen.

Let's put it on an other angle:

Will CGI UFC replace real UFC (or any MMA brand) ?
hm......
No
In fact I highly doubt CGI UFC would have any significant commercial success, EXCEPT, in the gaming industry

CGI is more about curiousity than anything else, like "look, it's fake, but damn it looks real !", that's what CGI is all about, IMO (see fake UFO on youtube)

Now the real deal with 3D is reusability and animation
I think a video game or some interactive thing based on 3D porn like "PornoMaker" or "UltimatePornChampionship" or whatever, would have some commercial success, as entertainment, but won't replace the real deal

lol
Imagine that

Sophie Dee Vs Brandon Iron
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Tekken style

[KeepItReal]

I don't get all the talk about the emotional aspect of porn? They are just actresses who are faking it, and often are actually not enjoying the scene at all!

Originally Posted by SaintsDecay

No problem. I found this guy through random mixes I saw on sites like PS and it was the best work I'd ever seen. Other artists I'd recommend are Project Bellerophon (who specializes in sci-fi themed porn, especially concerning Twi'leks and so on), IckyCrane (the 3D cumshot king), Blackadder (the 3D big boob king). The Knight Shines Bright is also good-- he does a lot of work with Night Elves and medieval beasts like Weres and Trolls. Hot stuff

Thanks again man!

There is also a lot of vanilla 3D stuff out there, but I was never really interested in that. For some reason, I've always liked elves and Twi'leks and that sort of thing because I'm just nerdy, and 3D artists make these mythical figures sexual. It just takes the fantasy to the next level, and if it's done right, it can be hotter than mainstream porn.

I find the elves and monsters etc take away from the raw sexuality. It becomes a kind of sci-fi comic book instead of something you can relate to and get turned on by. Then again porn is about escaping reality isn't it!

[thesandman]

Originally Posted by KeepItReal

Obviously it isn't perfect just yet, but things will constantly improve until it does.

I'd guess in 10 years time we wouldn't be able to tell the difference anymore!

When this time comes, we'll probably be able to buy software that allows us to create any sex scene we want?

Hey, a thread about my hobby

First of all: You're right, I too wouldn't be too sure that it will take that long. Especially not 40 years, like some are saying here. Just look at the progress CGI has made during the last decade: What was exclusively intro-material once has become state of the art for most games in the graphic-intensive genres. Photorealistic environment is already doable, and convincing humans will follow. Probably not right of the bat, but the next generation of consoles (or at least the one after that) will be able to do so. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if we had that kind of real-time rendering CGI by 2015, and would be surprised if we still were waiting for it by 2020. "Real-time rendering" meaning that that kind of graphics doesn't require entire farms of computing systems, just a single console (or PC).

Just check the latest E3 news, like Watch Dogs or whatever, and then think of 5 years from now, and you'll see what I mean.

Of course, CGI porn is something different since it still lacks the proper funding, support and public attention other genres have. It's not respectable nor is it seen as art, and the guys who would be the most likely fans (porn afficionados) are more drawn to the real thing, while the guys who would be the most likely contributors (porn companies who don't have to bother about respectability) are unlikely to fund it because they would shoot themselves in the foot by doing so. So even if proper homemade CGI porn was possible, it would still lag behind the mainstream progress by at least 5-10 years.

At the moment, when it comes to stuff that doesn't require excessive rendering and professional input, we're pretty much limited to stuff like http://veterperementour.ru/showthread.php...33#post6639933 (yes, I'm shamelessly using my own creation as an example here), which was created using a program that runs on an engine from 2005 or 2006. But still think how that would have looked like in 2000, and imagine what will most likely be doable in 2025.

Originally Posted by Anadin

But the way things are now, I don't understand how folks can wank to the low quality shit that exists. I'm still stunned that people are beating off to stuff like the Dead or Alive girls but whatever floats your boat I suppose.

Compare it with hardcore comics or hentai. Odds are good most people dislike it or are indifferent, but does who are into CGI porn probably don't bother that it doesn't look totally real. Besides, making something look too realistic may backfire if it's not 100% convincing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

And more:

The Uncanny Valley - YouTube

The Uncanny Valley - YouTube

But then again:

Originally Posted by KeepItReal

When this time comes, we'll probably be able to buy software that allows us to create any sex scene we want?

Will this finally kill the porn industry as we know it?

Even though it might hurt pron, I don't think it will be killing it, or even threaten it. Don't forget that porn includes real women having real sex and ideally having real orgasms or at least real fun while doing so. And the unspoken promise for the viewer that he potentially could have all the kinky sex with his favorite performer he's watching as well. And THIS is something CGI porn will never be able to offer, much like the hypothetical question whether real sexbots would be an adequate substitute for prostitution. My opinion would be: no, they aren't. Our sex drive is focused on other humans and sex is interaction, which doesn't really exist with robots (just food for thought: Could a perfect sexbot more than technically take someone's virginity?).
The way I see it, the potentially most popular application is what songokuu thought of - homemade CGI porn with your favorite performer (or mainstream actress or whatever) in it.