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Old 11th October 2014, 02:35   #1
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Default Do you believe Sandy Hook Hoax?

Personally, I do not. I know this is a little late to start a thread on this topic but, recently the incident popped up around the internet due to FBl recording zero shooting deaths for 2012 or something.

I'm down to call something a conspiracy if there is strong evidence supporting it. In this case, the evidence is not in favor of the shooting being a hoax.

Evidence in favor of a hoax:
1. Wayne Carver was acting abnormal. I've give you that one, doesn't prove anything definitively. He's probably just a weird guy.
2. There was discrepancy of the weapons Adam used. This is hardly an argument in my opinion, the news often gets things wrong, especially in the infancy of the reporting stage.
3. Missing video surveillance footage. I can't explain that one, doesn't prove a hoax, but could lead to a cover up, I can see that...
4. People were 'acting' as parents of the deceased. We are human, we get nervous, we laugh to hide our pain, again, I do not think this proves anything.
5. 'Everyone must check in sign' This seems standard to me, as it is a crime scene.
6. The Christmas trees were brought from the firehouse to the school. To me, this doesn't mean shit.


Evidence against it being hoax:
1. There is plenty of footage of people evacuating.
2. There is witness testimony from teachers, neighbors in the area.
3. The names of the children were released on grievance sites, even though conspiracy theorists insist no names were released.
4. No gun control laws were created as a result of the shooting? Someone can correct me on that one if they wish.
5. Someone would have most likely spoken up, if people were alive that should have been deceased.
6. To me, it just seems to real to be fake (I could have been fooled). But hey, prove me wrong! Show me the evidence it was a hoax.

I've watched several videos from several sources. And read newspaper articles, websites on the shooting. The view points that I have gathered about not seeing blood, frantic people in the news are quite weak arguments to me; the news generally does not want to show gore and people in a frenzy/panic.
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But why would it be faked? Plenty of public mass shootings have happened, why would one be a hoax? It's like all those people who think the Islamic State beheadings are fake. This is a group of people who have killed uncounted numbers of innocent people, why would they be afraid of increasing that number by this point?

I can understand why certain conspiracy theories exist, but this kind just seem pointless to me.
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I was deliberating a response to this post. That about sums it up.
Actually I posted this one in error.
I originally skimmed over & didn't read the thread starter's full post
and just naturally assumed that it was another conspiracy thread.
After reading it, I saw that unlike most conspiracy threads, logic and reason was used
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While we're on the topic, OP, give us your opinion on the Denver movie theater shooting during the Batman film.

The shooter allegedly opened a fire door from the outside. Anybody here ever try that? There's not even a handle. Why no search for his accomplice?

Or was that real?
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The shooter allegedly opened a fire door from the outside. Anybody here ever try that?
I haven't, but as far as I know firemen and such have a way to do it.
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The shooter allegedly opened a fire door from the outside. Anybody here ever try that? There's not even a handle. Why no search for his accomplice?

Or was that real?
I have opened movie theater exit doors. Sometimes they don't close all the way, so that's how someone could get in.


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Do you believe Sandy Hook Hoax?....
No. If it was a hoax, where are the "dead" children now? That kind of makes it impossible for me to believe it wasn't real. Too many real grieving parents to have that many fake "dead" children.

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... I saw that unlike most conspiracy threads, logic and reason was used and there was some rational thinking involved.
No fair!!! Logic & reason & rational thinking eliminate pepo from discussing the topic!!!!!
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