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16th October 2019, 16:29 | #1 |
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Open discussion for fans about any and everything pro wrestling excluding the one that's sports entertainment. I feel it's time to tell those fuckers to shove it. I guess we'll inevitably bring them up sooner rather than later but we can leave the excess for the other thread unless we change our minds.
YouTube channels of better known promotions. USA All Elite Wrestling IMPACT Wrestling Major League Wrestling National Wrestling Alliance Ring Of Honor Japan New Japan Pro Wrestling Mexico AAA CMLL Hopefully this won't flounder like the others. |
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16th October 2019, 18:20 | #2 |
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"Flounder" so is this thread about fishing or wrestling.
I loved Tennile in her triple threat match on Impact defy the odds in a 2 on 1. This stuff is so heavily choreographed that it makes it hard to watch unless you speed it up, then it looks cool. Choreographed or not that doesn't make what these men and women do any less dangerous, one wrong move and someone gets a broken neck or back. I reference Saraya-Jade Bevis (Paige) from WWE Divas who had to retire last year exactly because of a serious injury. She now plays the manager of some mean girls. My man was heavy into Stampede Wrestling which was the best there is, the best there was and the best there will ever be. It is why WWE exists today... And yes that was a Brett Hart reference lol. He is a personal family friend as are most of the WWE family past and present. Btw #TheFutureIsFemale
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17th October 2019, 14:40 | #3 |
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Flounder fit at the time lol. Those who have been around know what I mean though since we have two other ghost threads lurking.
I have fears this thread is gonna be joining them in the back pages void I visit like 4 times a year. I get the 'why the fuck do we wanna talk in there, we're very comfortable with the the other thread' vibe. I made it with trepidation hoping it might garner something in a few weeks at least and feel comfortable. I made it in a just go for it mode I lost when I went to bed. I'm sure people have often felt they wanna make a thread but get put off by whatever. The other thread is only now roughly four of us whinging usually, so on reflection I may have just wasted my time grabbing a bunch of youtube channel links and should probably have called it 'watch this stuff instead of wwe thread.' I'm so tired of wwe lately but it's like everybody still feels tied to them, including me, and it doesn't have to be that way, so that's why this thread exists. |
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17th October 2019, 14:55 | #4 |
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Even the I have no free time ever man had time for NWA. If that isn't reason enough to give it a try at x1.5 speed at least then I don't know what is. If I need to come across like a typing advertisement to get at least one person to watch something that isn't corporate horse shit then so be it.
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To be honest lately, my love for pro wrestling has slowly been taken away from me. I've been a fan since '91 and it's always been the constant thing in my life but wrestling fans seem to hate wrestling more than people on the outside. AEW has actually got me tuning in week after week so far, yet all I see on social media is people bitch and moan about them. I saw people complaining today about them naming the section behind the curtain the Dusty Position instead of the Gorilla Position, it's disrespectful to Gorilla Moonson, except WCW called it the Jody Hamilton Position and TNA called it the GO Position, I wish people would realize it's okay for rules to be different in other companies.
I also dislike the gatekeeping people seem to have when it comes to New Japan, I'm not an expert on the company I like the stuff they do, but I'm more of an 80's/90's era All Japan guy but you say you like Omega vs Okada or anything newish about the company and people need to bat you down and "put you in your place" and talk about inoki-ism like that is the only years of New Japan you are allowed to like. I just want to enjoy pro wrestling - I don't care if it's WWE (which sadly there is not much to enjoy about it nowadays) or DDT, I love all aspects of it.I can appreciate say Buddy Rogers vs Lou Thesz but at the same time I can love something totally ridiculous like the FMW No Rope Electrified Barbed Wire Swimming Pool Dynamite Double Hell Deathmatc. Wrestling is wrestling to me, I don't need the approval and the good boy pat on the head from a Jim Cornette. I'm just glad that now finally there is more choice for us to pick from has consumers, we have wanted this for a long time and we finally get it but some fans all they can do is complain. Sorry for the rant but man, I love pro wrestling and I just want people to watch it for the hour or two hours it's on TV/YouTube and feel invested and enjoy the show, instead of worrying or rushing to twitter to talk about TV ratings, ticket sales and stuff that doesn't and shouldn't matter to us fans...
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18th October 2019, 13:21 | #6 |
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Rant away man, it's good to get it out. I see your point on the negativity folks almost seem to thrive on when it comes to wrestling these days. Over emotional reactions mostly based on passion get lost in angry debates over pointless stuff they have no control over and trying to be a comedian to get likes and the equivalent with an ego boost seem to go hand in hand. Partly the reason why I created this because I was getting pissed at wwe lately and I was filling the swear jar, so make a new thread where we make them taboo and make the other wrestling just as relevant because the time has arrived where it should be. I stay away from social media so perhaps that may help you to take a break from it if you're an avid user and decompress. It's difficult to cut the wwe cord after so much investment but I'm gonna try because their product sucks and it's clear they only care about profits and making rich people happy.
I thoroughly enjoyed Powerrr again. Nice to see Sandow make a come back to wrestling and I liked Mr Anderson when he was Mr Kennedy. I've not seen him in a while so perhaps he'll start grating but if he ain't on every week then I can deal with that I look forward to the interviews every week and the wrestling isn't over the top so it's more relaxed, plus Cornette on commentary is always a bonus. AEW this week was fun. Jericho let Darby shine although I predicted that Hager would get involved but it didn't diminish it much. Wasn't as hard hitting a street fight as I was expecting but we had a hardcore fix with Omega and Janela on Dark so didn't matter. Lucha Bros are a stand out. Pentagon was just dripping charisma. Scorpio Sky has the it factor as well, he just looks like a cool dude you'd wanna hang with. Darby has something about him to, that calm mystery type of edge that draws me in. I was slightly hesitant when I saw Luchasaurus wasn't there but Marko definitely surpassed what I thought he was capable of. A great match indeed. Next week should be off the charts with Private Party and Lucha Bros. |
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New Japan is expanding to the USA with the blandly named 'New Japan in America'. We're short on details, although they like the current TV situation with AXS TV and they're aiming to do shows in buildings with around 2k people to start(larger than Full Sail, smaller than AEW) with the US tours not happening at the same time as their Japan tours.
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22nd October 2019, 08:54 | #8 |
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I absolutely loved Lucha Underground, but now that it's gone, I'm giving AEW a chance. So far it's been ok, but I feel a lot of the matches go on just a tad too long with too many near falls/kick outs at the 2 count. Glad to see Pentagon and Fenix there, since they were great in LU. Just wish Ivelise would turn up somewhere, since she was one of my faves.
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I'm not sure how I feel about New Japan in USA. Feels like they wanna kick ROH to the curb. I was thinking if ROH/MLW/Impact merged we'd have a third big viable alternative rather than three or now four fighting for third place.
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I know they have non-Dixie, non-Jarrett ownership now but I don't think I can ever trust Impact to be anything ever again. They should sell their women's division(or at least Tessa) to AEW, release everyone else and call it a day.
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