SOTW - Discussion Thread

[cylnz]

Ok, I can see that. I only mentioned it because !jonsnow!'s winning sig from last week has been nominated again already, and so has Drowned41's (I voted for both last time). I'm still learning the system, so I have to ask these questions

[Thelxiepeia]

If you want to be sure about the whole rules, please read the first post in our SOTW thread. Wildwestgirls made a huge post about our rules.

[wildwest08]

The SOTW, like all things, has growing pains,
especially recently

As a result, the Staff Hosts need to take some
action to make the SOTW better than ever.

The last thing Staff Hosts want to do is to hurt this
contest and lose the popularity it has now, so please
rest assured.


We do wish your input and thoughts on this.


Along with some of the problems, here are some
of the suggested proposals:


1. Nominations - Problems

The number of these, increasing and now at
41 for the last SOTW contest, is very
unmanageable and time-consuming for Staff
to work with

PlanetSuzy Forum Software will not permit
more than 25 pictures per post, so this
requires Staff to make more than one nominating
post

Contributing to this problem, Staff last year
upped the number of nominations one could make
from 5 to 6 as member participation was dropping


2. Voting - Problems


Of the 41 Nominated Signatures for the last
SOTW contest, over 24 received 3 votes or less

Coming up with a correct count for all by Staff
is very unmanageable and very time-consuming


As to possible suggested solutions:


1. Close the Nominations and Start Voting Early

This already is part of the rules on the first page

http://veterperementour.ru/showpost.p...69&postcount=1

If there are a lot nominated, the host may decide
to start voting early to keep the competition manageable.

A possible suggestion is 22 Nominations, this to keep
the Nominating Post to one post

The Voting Period would remain the same.


2. Limit the Nominations to 3 or 4

While we are happy to see such participation levels,
we are overwhelmed with Nominations presently

So the previous increase from 5 to the current 6 now
makes no sense

Also, if this happens, no more record of Most Nominations
will obviously be made


3. Only allowing New Signatures to be Nominated

Maybe just in case when there are so many nominations



4. Only post the vote count for the first 4 signatures

While we wish we could still continue to do this, posting
all of the members who received votes is very unmanageable
and time-consuming, and errors are easily made

Originally only the first 3 were posted, and it is almost
certain that we will return to this way of doing it

SOTW - 12th January 2012, 08:10

http://veterperementour.ru/showpost.p...9&postcount=30


5. A limit on the number of First Place Wins

This is a hard one, we're not sure about this one.

The hope is that perhaps limiting a Member who
repeats a win would make it more open to other members
to First Place

Perhaps no longer allow 2 First Place Wins in a row, one
after the other

and then they would either be given 2nd Place, or another
title/reward, perhaps Hall of Fame, or something similar?

Please, this isn't meant to punish anyone here

And again, very unsure about this one


6. Have Two Contests described as follows:

SOTW with only new ones and the TSC for the others
(theme signatures, etc.)



It is hoped that some if not all of these possible
suggestions will not only increase SOTW by
streamlining the entire process, BUT also make it
more equitable to everyone overall.


Again, We do wish your input and thoughts on this.

Thanks for understanding

We look forward to hearing from you.


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[JedixKiller]

Originally Posted by wildwest08

2. Limit the Nominations to 3 or 4.

This.
The past 2 SOTW votings I've done required 2 tabs to see which I liked the best. Not that it's a big deal but I'm sure it's a pain in the ass for the mods.

Also you should ineligible to be nominated if you've won or were in the top 3 the previous week and still have the same signature

[septimiu29]

Originally Posted by wildwest08

2. Limit the Nominations to 3 or 4
3 will be good

3. Only allowing New Signatures to be Nominated
I agree

4. Only post the vote count for the first 4 signatures
I say for the first 3 sig

5. A limit on the number of First Place Wins
Maybe 3? I like "Hall of Fame" idea. Maybe, at the end of the year we should make "Signature of the the year", or something.

6. Have Two Contests described as follows:
Cool, but who will be host the for TSC?

I'm new to the SOTW contest so I don't think it would be right to start putting any suggestions forward but the suggestions septimiu29 has quoted from wildwest08 above look good apart from having two contests. That just sounds like more work for the contest hosts (my assumption being that the hosts that manage the current SOTW contest would also manage the 2nd one) and besides the rest of the suggestions should make the current SOTW contest more manageable.

[cylnz]

why nominate?

post a theme, artists submit their work, post a poll with the submitted worx, allow voting for a few days, post winners (top 3?)

winner chooses theme.

All submissions must be new worx made after the theme is posted.

bam. done.

Originally Posted by cylnz

why nominate?

post a theme, artists submit their work, post a poll with the submitted worx, allow voting for a few days, post winners (top 3?)

winner chooses theme.

All submissions must be new worx made after the theme is posted.

bam. done.

Isn't that what they are roughly doing with the new Theme Signature Contest, I don't think they should changed the SOTW contest to themed. I also think if you took away the nominations element that would just mean looking here all the time Signature depot , and I think people would get bored of doing that and start losing interest.

3. Only allowing New Signatures to be Nominated.

New that week or new to that poster ? Either way, makes tracking it difficult.

I agree with this one, though I would change this to a signature can only ever be nominated once. This would allow us to nominate long time signatures (still only the one time) and if your signature isn't nominated one week, it still has a chance next week without having to change it.

[wildwest08]

Thank you all very much for your thoughts and feedback, they are very very helpful

Yes, some of the proposed changes are also more time-consuming than any help they might offer here

Staff has always meant to take a minimal approach here, no drastic changes unless warranted, see how one or two small changes work, evaluate if they make a difference, etc.

Right now, all the SOTW Rules have not been changed, at least for this current contest as already stated

For the following SOTW Contest, two rule changes are the ones most likely to be instituted:

1. Only 3 Nominations will be permitted.

2. Only the First Three Winners will be posted
(however, the total count for each member
will still be done, that being necessary to
properly make any decision, etc.)

As always, your thoughts and input greatly appreciated

Thank you always for participating

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