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Nykoo · 25th April 2010, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by sman343

16. Allowing a reasonable amount of time for members to response to warnings - I guess I must have missed in this thread where this is discussed or what the heck that is supposed to mean. There is no need for a member to respond to a warning other than maybe "sorry, won't happen again".

That was from me. "The response" does not mean an answer via PM to the mod, no. It means, to correct/modify the post to make it right according to the rules.

If you cannot do that because it represents too much work for mods, I can understand. But then just erase the post in question, and don't send a warning (saying correct it before we erase it) just to make people feel like they could have modify the post if you don't let us the time do do so.

I still don't know why you don't get more moderators to do the job, I already asked why but he wouldn't answer me. There must be a good reason tough (to hard to handle, not enough volunteers...).

alexora · 25th April 2010, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by sman343

7. Megaporn not allowed - Megaporn is better and faster than depositfile by leaps and bounds for free users, and is used far less frequently than the latter, so this suggestion is .... well you think up your own word here.

I don't think I will: that was Toto's suggestion. Perhaps he can come up with the appropiate word.

Nono · 25th April 2010, 12:23

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Originally Posted by alexora

I don't think I will: that was Toto's suggestion. Perhaps he can come up with the appropiate word.

As I know MP is banned in the country he lives in. And it is not a small, minor country with only a handful of planetsuzans.

alexora · 25th April 2010, 12:28

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Originally Posted by Sir Nonohari

As I know MP is banned in the country he lives in. And it is not a small, minor country with only a handful of planetsuzans.

Yes, I pointed this out in a previous post. Perhaps sman343 missed it.

Thelxiepeia · 25th April 2010, 12:41

Thanks a lot sman343 for your huge post. You have given your answers for some problems and that's the way problems can be solved.

Nevertheless I have some problems with verbalizations like "who really cares about this?" In this case its obsolete to discuss because it was only a "graphically" request.

But here is another one: "There is no need for a member to respond to a warning". I can't agree to that. Nykoo is right, I'm afraid to send PM's in every case of a rule violation, it's not possible to do that. In a case Nykoo described we will prove the PM and maybe we will reverse the infraction. That's the way it goes now.
My problem is the verbalization of your solution. If you would be the infracted member maybe there is a need to respond to a warning.
One out of three members are responding to my warnings and infractions. Ninety percent of them say: I'm sorry, it won't happen again.
You are right, there is no need to install a response time because of too much work and because our error rate is not so big. But I want to give every member the appreciation he deserves. I can understand this request for a response to our warnings and infractions. And we should not say: "There is no need for it". This is provocation and I'm sure you won't diminish your awesome work in your post with a provocation.

Every request, every action, even every controversial has its reason. That's something very important I believe in.

EDIT: I have re-read my post and maybe you can read it with thoughts like: she is a nitpicker. But for me it's a kind of philosophy to meet other people. You can't reach any goal with provocations. What a pity!

But it's true. It's important to change the role if you are reading requests like that. I know there is a huge problem for Salice to accept this 30 seconds waiting time between the seaches.
I hate it, too! But mods are ok with it because we don't have to wait. But we can't say: "There is no need to change it for the regular users." We can say: "We are very sorry, but we don't have the possibility to offer a free search for all user because of our bandwidth."
I feel sorry for the regular users in this case. For me it's a provocation if someone says: "There is no need for you to search faster than before."

Hope you got me now.

Karmafan · 25th April 2010, 15:54

I wish the search function worked a little better. If you type say "Karma Rosenberg" it lists every person named Karma on the site and every person named Rosenberg giving you 42 threads to search. It would be better if it could somehow just look for the 2 words together thereby giving you just the threads with Karma Rosenberg and not also the ones with Robert Rosenberg, hispanic Karma, black Karma, Black Eyed Peas Karma, Culture Clubs Karma Chameleon, and people saying Karma.

DiamondHead · 25th April 2010, 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmafan

I wish the search function worked a little better. If you type say "Karma Rosenberg" it lists every person named Karma on the site and every person named Rosenberg giving you 42 threads to search. It would be better if it could somehow just look for the 2 words together thereby giving you just the threads with Karma Rosenberg and not also the ones with Robert Rosenberg, hispanic Karma, black Karma, Black Eyed Peas Karma, Culture Clubs Karma Chameleon, and people saying Karma.

Karmafan, if you place an + between the words you are searching for, it will search for the posts that contain only both those words, and not posts that contain one or the other

so instead of searching for Karma Rosenberg and getting 14 pages of results, search for Karma+Rosenberg and you will only get 3 pages of results

pockets · 25th April 2010, 16:21

I know the thread is hypothetical, but I want to make a point please:

I know that some moderators already do the things you are asking for, and some don't. Sometimes I leave a post that isn't correct and I give a warning or PM and ask the member to fix it, other time I just dump it and say "re-post it if you want, but follow the rules."

There are several factors that go into my decision on how to handle each member, and yes, sometimes my mood comes into play. Remember each moderator is an individual, the entire team encourages each moderator to use his or her own best judgment and discretion when moderating. The rules are written... but there is no "handbook" about how to handle each situation.

Each moderator is an individual with his/her own personality, vision, temperament, ideals, style, and passion. We don't need or want robot Mods any more than we want robot Members.

To Nykoo:
"kind of" an answer to your "Why not have more mods?" question... we are a picky bunch, and very selective about who we invite to moderate.

sman343 · 26th April 2010, 06:19

Alina,

Perhaps I didn't make myself as clear as I should have regarding the member response. Obviously if a member has committed what appears to be a violation and the ensuing infraction causes them to be banned for any length of time, they are not going to have an opportunity to respond to the infraction.

I would point out however that my comments were made to suggest that there often is not a need for them to respond because the action they took that led to the infraction is in most cases justified. Of course there are going to be misunderstandings and mistakes made occasionally. In fact I had a situation just like this happen a couple of days ago where a member was infracted, who then sent me a message explaining the reason he should not have been infracted. As it turns out he was correct and I immediately reversed the infraction and restored his post. I dare say however that this was one situation out of all of the infractions I have given out which is substantial.

If what I read is correct, someone would like for us to give an infraction no matter how severe the case and then have it set to start a ban if that is what the infraction will lead to at some specified interval in the future. In essence what they are asking us to do is to have a "trial" or "hearing" to discuss the reason why someone got a warning or infraction. All of this leads all the way back to the points I made in my previous posts about the practicality of dealing with each moderator potentially handling several hundred posts a day. It is beyond reason to expect every moderator to give an infraction and then say "Hey (username), I've given you an infraction for (insert reason here), please explain why you did what you did" Wait for an answer if one even comes, and then decided to either allow the infraction to continue on it's course or to reverse it at that time.

If a member is banned and they feel their ban is unjustified (and by that I mean an error was made and not just someone who is upset that they got caught doing something against the rules), there is a "contact us" link at the bottom of the website that allows anyone to send a message to the staff that does not require a person to have a membership, so even a banned user could use that.

Our moderation staff does what I believe is a standup job considering the shear traffic we handle on a daily basis. I also believe that pretty much every mod handles a situation the way they see best. We do the best we can and thats all that can be asked. Just the notion of this very thread suggests that someone(s) think they can do it better (and perhaps maybe they can). Without having a frame of reference for what really goes on behind the scenes here at Suzy, very few are going to have an understanding of what it really takes. I venture to guess that anyone who has made a comment in this thread could be given a view of what it looks like from the moderation staff for 1 day, and their perceptions and assumptions would change radically. Let them checked and sign off on 12 pages of posts over the span of several hours, and see the continuous onslaught of violations and communications. I will bet that the thoughts they had about doing anything that encourages more work from them would quickly fade in their mind. The thought of sending out a PM to every single poster whose post they remove for various violations would become a distant thought in their mind, and so on and so forth.

Basically what I am saying is something along the lines of "Walk a mile in my shoes", only then would people really realize that Suzy really is a great place thanks to not only the great contributors but to the staff which they so eagerly disdain.

CallMePhil · 26th April 2010, 07:36

If I was an admin, I would fix this weird thing that transforms my 40 per page to 10 per page when I click on a page number. I attempted to look at the other pages to see if this suggestion was made but after page 5, I got lazy.

Then again, I might be even more lazy if this was already addressed somewhere on the site or this is a known glitch. Then again, I'm probably just intellectually google/search engine lazy.

25th April 2010, 12:41	#85
Thelxiepeia Dedicated Designer Clinically Insane Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,107 Thanks: 18,321 Thanked 17,180 Times in 3,037 Posts	Thanks a lot sman343 for your huge post. You have given your answers for some problems and that's the way problems can be solved. Nevertheless I have some problems with verbalizations like "who really cares about this?" In this case its obsolete to discuss because it was only a "graphically" request. But here is another one: "There is no need for a member to respond to a warning". I can't agree to that. Nykoo is right, I'm afraid to send PM's in every case of a rule violation, it's not possible to do that. In a case Nykoo described we will prove the PM and maybe we will reverse the infraction. That's the way it goes now. My problem is the verbalization of your solution. If you would be the infracted member maybe there is a need to respond to a warning. One out of three members are responding to my warnings and infractions. Ninety percent of them say: I'm sorry, it won't happen again. You are right, there is no need to install a response time because of too much work and because our error rate is not so big. But I want to give every member the appreciation he deserves. I can understand this request for a response to our warnings and infractions. And we should not say: "There is no need for it". This is provocation and I'm sure you won't diminish your awesome work in your post with a provocation. Every request, every action, even every controversial has its reason. That's something very important I believe in. EDIT: I have re-read my post and maybe you can read it with thoughts like: she is a nitpicker. But for me it's a kind of philosophy to meet other people. You can't reach any goal with provocations. What a pity! But it's true. It's important to change the role if you are reading requests like that. I know there is a huge problem for Salice to accept this 30 seconds waiting time between the seaches. I hate it, too! But mods are ok with it because we don't have to wait. But we can't say: "There is no need to change it for the regular users." We can say: "We are very sorry, but we don't have the possibility to offer a free search for all user because of our bandwidth." I feel sorry for the regular users in this case. For me it's a provocation if someone says: "There is no need for you to search faster than before." Hope you got me now. __________________ Are you Broken?™

25th April 2010, 16:21	#88
pockets FuckFaceVonClownStick Beyond Redemption Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 32,130 Thanks: 54,606 Thanked 306,205 Times in 30,390 Posts	I know the thread is hypothetical, but I want to make a point please: I know that some moderators already do the things you are asking for, and some don't. Sometimes I leave a post that isn't correct and I give a warning or PM and ask the member to fix it, other time I just dump it and say "re-post it if you want, but follow the rules." There are several factors that go into my decision on how to handle each member, and yes, sometimes my mood comes into play. Remember each moderator is an individual, the entire team encourages each moderator to use his or her own best judgment and discretion when moderating. The rules are written... but there is no "handbook" about how to handle each situation. Each moderator is an individual with his/her own personality, vision, temperament, ideals, style, and passion. We don't need or want robot Mods any more than we want robot Members. To Nykoo: "kind of" an answer to your "Why not have more mods?" question... we are a picky bunch, and very selective about who we invite to moderate. __________________ My Picture Thread My Video (Mirror) Thread

26th April 2010, 06:19	#89
sman343 Iron Fist Clinically Insane Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,873 Thanks: 2,571 Thanked 13,142 Times in 1,496 Posts	Alina, Perhaps I didn't make myself as clear as I should have regarding the member response. Obviously if a member has committed what appears to be a violation and the ensuing infraction causes them to be banned for any length of time, they are not going to have an opportunity to respond to the infraction. I would point out however that my comments were made to suggest that there often is not a need for them to respond because the action they took that led to the infraction is in most cases justified. Of course there are going to be misunderstandings and mistakes made occasionally. In fact I had a situation just like this happen a couple of days ago where a member was infracted, who then sent me a message explaining the reason he should not have been infracted. As it turns out he was correct and I immediately reversed the infraction and restored his post. I dare say however that this was one situation out of all of the infractions I have given out which is substantial. If what I read is correct, someone would like for us to give an infraction no matter how severe the case and then have it set to start a ban if that is what the infraction will lead to at some specified interval in the future. In essence what they are asking us to do is to have a "trial" or "hearing" to discuss the reason why someone got a warning or infraction. All of this leads all the way back to the points I made in my previous posts about the practicality of dealing with each moderator potentially handling several hundred posts a day. It is beyond reason to expect every moderator to give an infraction and then say "Hey (username), I've given you an infraction for (insert reason here), please explain why you did what you did" Wait for an answer if one even comes, and then decided to either allow the infraction to continue on it's course or to reverse it at that time. If a member is banned and they feel their ban is unjustified (and by that I mean an error was made and not just someone who is upset that they got caught doing something against the rules), there is a "contact us" link at the bottom of the website that allows anyone to send a message to the staff that does not require a person to have a membership, so even a banned user could use that. Our moderation staff does what I believe is a standup job considering the shear traffic we handle on a daily basis. I also believe that pretty much every mod handles a situation the way they see best. We do the best we can and thats all that can be asked. Just the notion of this very thread suggests that someone(s) think they can do it better (and perhaps maybe they can). Without having a frame of reference for what really goes on behind the scenes here at Suzy, very few are going to have an understanding of what it really takes. I venture to guess that anyone who has made a comment in this thread could be given a view of what it looks like from the moderation staff for 1 day, and their perceptions and assumptions would change radically. Let them checked and sign off on 12 pages of posts over the span of several hours, and see the continuous onslaught of violations and communications. I will bet that the thoughts they had about doing anything that encourages more work from them would quickly fade in their mind. The thought of sending out a PM to every single poster whose post they remove for various violations would become a distant thought in their mind, and so on and so forth. Basically what I am saying is something along the lines of "Walk a mile in my shoes", only then would people really realize that Suzy really is a great place thanks to not only the great contributors but to the staff which they so eagerly disdain. __________________ Show appreciation for posts by always clicking Report spam, phishing or other rules violations by clicking If any of my links are dead report to section moderator as I will not reupload them.

25th April 2010, 15:54	#86
Karmafan Who Cut The Cheese? Beyond Redemption Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 11,387 Thanks: 39,606 Thanked 38,104 Times in 9,853 Posts	I wish the search function worked a little better. If you type say "Karma Rosenberg" it lists every person named Karma on the site and every person named Rosenberg giving you 42 threads to search. It would be better if it could somehow just look for the 2 words together thereby giving you just the threads with Karma Rosenberg and not also the ones with Robert Rosenberg, hispanic Karma, black Karma, Black Eyed Peas Karma, Culture Clubs Karma Chameleon, and people saying Karma.

26th April 2010, 07:36	#90
CallMePhil Registered User Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 45 Thanks: 746 Thanked 77 Times in 32 Posts	If I was an admin, I would fix this weird thing that transforms my 40 per page to 10 per page when I click on a page number. I attempted to look at the other pages to see if this suggestion was made but after page 5, I got lazy. Then again, I might be even more lazy if this was already addressed somewhere on the site or this is a known glitch. Then again, I'm probably just intellectually google/search engine lazy.