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Absent Friend · 28th February 2013, 21:27

Thoughts on NXT.

1.) Dusty and Bo were yucking it up in regards to Bo's momentum since winning the Rumble tournament. Cory Graves came in, as he was ordered to return the NXT Championship that he stole from Big E. Langston. Dusty proposed a 3 way match between Dallas, Graves, and O'Brian for the number 1 contendership.

2.) The Battle of South Africans: Gabriel vs. Kruger. Tony Dawson: "A lariat, right?" Regal said yes, it looked more like a clothesline from Kruger to Gabriel, but ah well. Gabriel's arm was worked on for a long time by Kruger. During this, Regal said Dawson must breath through his arse, because he never stops talking. Seems accurate. Gabriel made his comeback and it meant a win. I was hoping Kassius Ohno would get in this, but no. Kruger took a crutch from Tyson Kidd and used it on Gabriel. Sore loser stuff.

3.) I was about to visit a website, as the video played. Once Emma's theme hit, I went right to the video on full screen. The reason being that Emma's dancing is funny, and her entrance in the ring was also amusing. That music is also silly counding. It seemed Aksana was the face. Strange. Emma was the more impressive of the two, obviously, having been trained by Lance Storm. It's not often a Diva uses a Cravat or whatever. Aksana though did a nice Spinebuster. Good for her, she won too. Jericho should get Emma as a dance partner.

4.) Right before the main event, Bo Dallas is shown down, treated by refs and docs. The lovely Renee Young informed that Dallas is unable to compete.

5.) Well they let this match go as a one on one bout, a very slow one because of Graves working on O'Brian's leg for most of the match. The crowd was fairly quiet, meaning the few that spoke up, were too damn loud. A woman in the front row was all "CORY!" It was annoying. Suddenly, the lights went out, and The Shield came out and crushed Graves and O'Brian. What injustice happened? I guess one on one, not the advertised triple threat. The Shield cut a promo saying about keeping your guard up, and that things will be a lot worse before they get better. There was some cheering for these three guys, not surprising. Surprising and sweet close to the show.

burtog · 28th February 2013, 23:16

I'm almost bummed that you got the chance to post some Emma gif's before I could - she's so awesome IMHO. I enjoyed her in ECCW & in SHIMMER, and that was before she added her exquisite ring-entrance-dance to her repertoire.

There's a longer gif of her struggling to get in the ring that includes her dance, so I'm adding it for the fun of it all:

And IRT the Cena list from a page ago: Brutally overlooked in that list was his Last Man Standing against Umaga from a few Royal Rumbles ago. And in general, I'm not the hugest Cena fan, but it always makes me laugh that he's often subjected to the "you can't wrestle" chants even though he routinely puts on MOTYC matches - the guys had awesome matches with like a dozen different guys, so I think it's tough to agree that he "can't wrestle".

1st March 2013, 00:10

But it is his opponents that make it good and it has nothing at all to do with Cena

If I was making a list I would have put the Umaga match in. He had a decent match with Khali as well. I don't think I have seen The Undertaker match. I don't know how I missed it. I think the fans that chant you can't wrestle at Cena are delusional. Hate is blinding them.

I like the dancing girl Emma. She ticks my boxes ( big tits ) I think she and Paige will be on Raw and Smackdown soon, by soon I mean end of the year. It's probably best they are still on NXT for now. They probably wouldn't be doing anything other than take turns losing to Kaitlyn for the next six months.

NXT is easy viewing. I like it. I'm still watching every week unlike smackdown.

Just checked. I have seen the Undertaker match. I must have only watched it once when it was live.

burtog · 1st March 2013, 00:30

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Originally Posted by Alan Kellerman

But it is his opponents that make it good and it has nothing at all to do with Cena

If I was making a list I would have put the Umaga match in. He had a decent match with Khali as well. I don't think I have seen The Undertaker match. I don't know how I missed it. I think the fans that chant you can't wrestle at Cena are delusional. Hate is blinding them.

Are you saying that the Cena-haters think it's just his opponents, or is that what you really think?

Because if if his "good matches list" includes matches with Umaga (good but far from great), Khali (awful) and RVD (not even as good as Umaga) it's hard to think that it's all on the opponents and not at all due to Cena. Unless, like you said, people are just straight up blind to what he's doing because they hate him .......

1st March 2013, 00:38

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Originally Posted by Psycho Man

After the epic contest between them on Monday Night, I would rather WWE have CM Punk vs John Cena part 500,000,000,000 at WrestleMania 29 as opposed to John Cena vs The Rock part 2.

Rock vs Cena and Rock vs Punk weren't good at all, because The Rock's so roided up that he gets gassed within the first five minutes.

That's exactly why it should be a triple threat. It would be a lot better because Punk and Cena can work a faster pace, and they could really pick up the slack. Each of them alone can't carry the worthless Rock to a decent match, but both of them? Hell yeah.

Cena and Punk click.
Rock and Cena don't.

Amen to that.

CM Punk can take the people's elbow and the AA. As long as The Rock takes another AA and loses. The match would be a lot better if it was a triple threat. I'd be shocked if it was changed to a triple threat now.

The Undertaker looks most likely for CM Punk. I think is is even more certain because he showed up at a house show. All The Undertaker does now is point to the wrestlemania sign and does his cut your throat thing. They are killing as much time as possible with Cena putting his title shot on the line etc. In a perfect world CM Punk would beat The Undertaker.

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Originally Posted by burtog

Are you saying that the Cena-haters think it's just his opponents, or is that what you really think?

Because if if his "good matches list" includes matches with Umaga (good but far from great), Khali (awful) and RVD (not even as good as Umaga) it's hard to think that it's all on the opponents and not at all due to Cena. Unless, like you said, people are just straight up blind to what he's doing because they hate him .......

I was being a Cena hater for a minute. He is more talented than CM Punk.

CM Punk has really proved to be great to me because I didn't see him on the indy's like a lot of people. I just heard people talking about him. He has secured his place as a memorable guy in history. One of the best villains in WWE.

I just like Cena more. The perfect Mr WWE to me. Hopefully a few years down the line he wont be doing mad shit like Hulk Hogan.

Booster Gold · 1st March 2013, 02:29

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Originally Posted by burtog

...Umaga...

I miss Umaga.

I liked him when he was a regular on Smackdown few years ago. He was the perfect monster heel.

Some memorable moments...

WWE Umaga and The Great Khali (funny) - YouTube

William Regal used to call him Umanga lol.

Regal Says Ooomanga - YouTube

burtog · 1st March 2013, 02:55

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Originally Posted by Alan Kellerman

I was being a Cena hater for a minute. He is more talented than CM Punk.

CM Punk has really proved to be great to me because I didn't see him on the indy's like a lot of people. I just heard people talking about him. He has secured his place as a memorable guy in history. One of the best villains in WWE.

I just like Cena more. The perfect Mr WWE to me. Hopefully a few years down the line he wont be doing mad shit like Hulk Hogan.

I was admittedly a Punk mark from the indies - I liked his stuff in ROH & in IWA-MS (I didn't see enough of his TNA work to say that I liked it or not) and I honestly didn't think that he'd make it in the WWE. I like how well he's done in the WWE.

With that said, I'm a bit of a Cena fan, too (mostly because he's so hated by so many "smart fans", though, so not really a fan per-se). Like I said a few hours ago, I think he's often in the biggest/best matches in the WWE, each & every year ... part of it is because he's given the most chances to be in the best matches, but still, he has great matches with guys that don't normally have 'great' matches, so part of it has to be him (his selling, his timing, his comebacks, etc.)

And, yeah, evilmonkey, I was a bit of an Umaga mark as well - him and Armando Estrada was an awesome pairing. Umaga was a great monster heel, for sure. There was always a part of me that wanted them to bring Rosey back in to either (i) team with Umaga or (ii) feud with him as a different Samoan monster. Those two guys as "Three Minute Warning" were a missed opportunity, IMHO. Neither were great wrestlers, but they could've been used better than they were, as a team or as individuals.

Absent Friend · 1st March 2013, 03:09

Awwww, shit, I miss Armando Alejandro Estrada!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SW_iStBYBEE

Umaga's missed too, I remember when reports came out he'd feud with Undertaker. It went from "when" to "if," as it never materialized. With his time cut short in life, his best match in his career was with Cena in Last Man Standing. One of the few times Cena was an underdog.

As for this Cena talk, I agree. Cena's someone I feel won't get the universal respect he's earned, until he either retires, or dies. With his uncompromising character, that will never happen while he's active. It doesn't hamper his match performance, he has more of a track record of great matches than the often loved IWC favorites.

One thing though, it does seem Cena is a curse amongst women in any storyline. With Eve, she was tagged with hoeski. With AJ, she would be depicted more as some sort of whore than crazy. And if he's still dating Nikki Bella, it's interesting to note that Daniel Bryan's dating the all natural one, Brie. Cena's dating the one with boob implants.

sports_fan39 · 1st March 2013, 10:20

so, with Shamus with Orton attacking 1 of the Sheild, does this mean the Shield will be ending soon? i for one am enjoying the Shield alot, i reckon someone else gets involved, there will be a 3 man tag match somewhere along the line, Shield loses and it all implodes

Love Buzz · 1st March 2013, 13:56

Main Event was awful!

Cody is now a moustache super-hero type character? He got his new logo and a chick that digs his lovestache. King talking about kissing which basically gives away that they will be. Cody will turn face and where the heck that will lead I hate to think.

This is a new low for WWE focusing on facial hair. Feels like it's all Cole and King talk about every show they are on, it's getting boring. Yes, his stache is skinny, we all laughed first time we saw it, bit much to still be laughing a few months later or are they laughing for those new fangled first time viewers who would also laugh then quickly turn over and watch something else.

Henry and Gabriel.. just why? Gabriel stood no chance whatsoever and I couldn't even figure out the ending and whether it was botched or not, just looked shit.

Apparantly Big Show v Orton on Smackdown.. yay.. and the Fagdango debut. I'm sure it'll be mildly interesting then quickly turn into seen it all before new hatred next week.

1st March 2013, 00:10	#7533
Alan Kellerman Guest Posts: n/a	But it is his opponents that make it good and it has nothing at all to do with Cena If I was making a list I would have put the Umaga match in. He had a decent match with Khali as well. I don't think I have seen The Undertaker match. I don't know how I missed it. I think the fans that chant you can't wrestle at Cena are delusional. Hate is blinding them. I like the dancing girl Emma. She ticks my boxes ( big tits ) I think she and Paige will be on Raw and Smackdown soon, by soon I mean end of the year. It's probably best they are still on NXT for now. They probably wouldn't be doing anything other than take turns losing to Kaitlyn for the next six months. NXT is easy viewing. I like it. I'm still watching every week unlike smackdown. Just checked. I have seen the Undertaker match. I must have only watched it once when it was live. Last edited by Alan Kellerman; 1st March 2013 at 00:20.

28th February 2013, 21:27	#7531
Absent Friend Virgin Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 131,850 Thanked 100,143 Times in 13,522 Posts	Thoughts on NXT. 1.) Dusty and Bo were yucking it up in regards to Bo's momentum since winning the Rumble tournament. Cory Graves came in, as he was ordered to return the NXT Championship that he stole from Big E. Langston. Dusty proposed a 3 way match between Dallas, Graves, and O'Brian for the number 1 contendership. 2.) The Battle of South Africans: Gabriel vs. Kruger. Tony Dawson: "A lariat, right?" Regal said yes, it looked more like a clothesline from Kruger to Gabriel, but ah well. Gabriel's arm was worked on for a long time by Kruger. During this, Regal said Dawson must breath through his arse, because he never stops talking. Seems accurate. Gabriel made his comeback and it meant a win. I was hoping Kassius Ohno would get in this, but no. Kruger took a crutch from Tyson Kidd and used it on Gabriel. Sore loser stuff. 3.) I was about to visit a website, as the video played. Once Emma's theme hit, I went right to the video on full screen. The reason being that Emma's dancing is funny, and her entrance in the ring was also amusing. That music is also silly counding. It seemed Aksana was the face. Strange. Emma was the more impressive of the two, obviously, having been trained by Lance Storm. It's not often a Diva uses a Cravat or whatever. Aksana though did a nice Spinebuster. Good for her, she won too. Jericho should get Emma as a dance partner. 4.) Right before the main event, Bo Dallas is shown down, treated by refs and docs. The lovely Renee Young informed that Dallas is unable to compete. 5.) Well they let this match go as a one on one bout, a very slow one because of Graves working on O'Brian's leg for most of the match. The crowd was fairly quiet, meaning the few that spoke up, were too damn loud. A woman in the front row was all "CORY!" It was annoying. Suddenly, the lights went out, and The Shield came out and crushed Graves and O'Brian. What injustice happened? I guess one on one, not the advertised triple threat. The Shield cut a promo saying about keeping your guard up, and that things will be a lot worse before they get better. There was some cheering for these three guys, not surprising. Surprising and sweet close to the show.

28th February 2013, 23:16	#7532
burtog Registered User Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Suburbia Posts: 642 Thanks: 2,467 Thanked 1,518 Times in 579 Posts	I'm almost bummed that you got the chance to post some Emma gif's before I could - she's so awesome IMHO. I enjoyed her in ECCW & in SHIMMER, and that was before she added her exquisite ring-entrance-dance to her repertoire. There's a longer gif of her struggling to get in the ring that includes her dance, so I'm adding it for the fun of it all: And IRT the Cena list from a page ago: Brutally overlooked in that list was his Last Man Standing against Umaga from a few Royal Rumbles ago. And in general, I'm not the hugest Cena fan, but it always makes me laugh that he's often subjected to the "you can't wrestle" chants even though he routinely puts on MOTYC matches - the guys had awesome matches with like a dozen different guys, so I think it's tough to agree that he "can't wrestle".

1st March 2013, 10:20	#7539
sports_fan39 Registered User Clinically Insane Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,750 Thanks: 983 Thanked 2,621 Times in 1,214 Posts	so, with Shamus with Orton attacking 1 of the Sheild, does this mean the Shield will be ending soon? i for one am enjoying the Shield alot, i reckon someone else gets involved, there will be a 3 man tag match somewhere along the line, Shield loses and it all implodes

1st March 2013, 13:56	#7540
Love Buzz Marginalised & Ostracised Clinically Insane Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,661 Thanks: 5,723 Thanked 13,028 Times in 2,763 Posts	Main Event was awful! Cody is now a moustache super-hero type character? He got his new logo and a chick that digs his lovestache. King talking about kissing which basically gives away that they will be. Cody will turn face and where the heck that will lead I hate to think. This is a new low for WWE focusing on facial hair. Feels like it's all Cole and King talk about every show they are on, it's getting boring. Yes, his stache is skinny, we all laughed first time we saw it, bit much to still be laughing a few months later or are they laughing for those new fangled first time viewers who would also laugh then quickly turn over and watch something else. Henry and Gabriel.. just why? Gabriel stood no chance whatsoever and I couldn't even figure out the ending and whether it was botched or not, just looked shit. Apparantly Big Show v Orton on Smackdown.. yay.. and the Fagdango debut. I'm sure it'll be mildly interesting then quickly turn into seen it all before new hatred next week.