NFL this week

[P.M. Fun]

Originally Posted by japoelflaco

Quite obvious: 'cause they ARE CHEATERS!!!
The same applies to the Pats, with the "Tuck Rule" (where Brady clearly had both hands on the football), SpyGate and the antics of Brady, Welker etc where they can't be touched cause they jump like if they have been raped.
Pass interference against Welker in the game against the Texans my ass. Plus don't forget the Pats have been only big in the last decade, they have another 5 decades of shame, so yes that team is full of bandwagoners.

Onto your second point, not necesarily. If I were starting all over again and had to choose a team to suppport for their style of playing, I'd probably liked the current form of the 49ers. I like ferocious defense, with a good run game and the ocasional big play. I hate the stuck up attitude of pure passing teams like the Packers, Pats (although theirs is more a dink and donk), Eagles, Colts (with Peyton) and now the Broncos. I remember one interview of Rodgers in NFL network where he was asked about the poor run game of the Packers and he replied: "Do we need one?" Then he and the Packers got raped by the Giants.

And Im a Raider and by their performances in the last decade you can tell why I dislike bandwagoners. Through good and bad.

No, because they are the most successful football team in Italy. People like success.
As for the second part, you also see the wrong sport. Football is not a game of 22 people wrestling with each other.
Third, Patriots do have a running game, they are 7th in the NFL.
Fourth, Giants didn't won last year because of their running game, or their defense. Eli Manning threw for 330 yards (3 TD). And they scored 37 points.
You are a Raider? And you talk about raping? Watch your lousy team (for over a decade) and have patience. May be in a decade or 2, you will see them "rise" again.

Originally Posted by P.M. Fun

You are a Raider? And you talk about raping? Watch your lousy team (for over a decade) and have patience. May be in a decade or 2, you will see them "rise" again.

No offense, but every team goes through a shitty phase.
Just wait until Brady retires and see how good your Pats are then.
Not knocking you, just forewarning you.

[P.M. Fun]

Originally Posted by thefrostqueen

No offense, but every team goes through a shitty phase.
Just wait until Brady retires and see how good your Pats are then.
Not knocking you, just forewarning you.

I am not offended by that. It is true when Brady retires it's gonna be tough.
But, then i read about the raping of the Packers from the Giants in the semifinal of the NFC. It was a semifinal. And that was said by an Oakland Raiders fan? When was the last time they played in a semifinal? When was the last time they were in the playoffs? You see what i mean? A Raiders fan (with record 3-10) don't like the game of the 2011 or 2012 Packers? That's at least annoying IMO.

[chajonator]

Originally Posted by P.M. Fun

I am not offended by that. It is true when Brady retires it's gonna be tough.
But, then i read about the raping of the Packers from the Giants in the semifinal of the NFC. It was a semifinal. And that was said by an Oakland Raiders fan? When was the last time they played in a semifinal? When was the last time they were in the playoffs? You see what i mean? A Raiders fan (with record 3-10) don't like the game of the 2011 or 2012 Packers? That's at least annoying IMO.

It doesn't matter if the Raiders haven't won or played in over a decade... you seem don't get the gest of all the post about the Pats and their bandwagoners.
No Pat fan was here when they were 3-3. Is what we mean.

Fourth, Giants didn't won last year because of their running game, or their defense. Eli Manning threw for 330 yards (3 TD). And they scored 37 points.

I said the Packers lost because they didn't have a running game, not that the Giants won because they had one. See there's a difference. That type of offense most of the time fails in pivotal moments. 98 Vikings, Oilers of the 90's, Pats and Colts in 09 and 10.

Anyways
Vick is finally healthy and has passed the concussion tests, but he is inactive tonight, where do you think he'll end up?

[lonewolfz28]

Originally Posted by japoelflaco

Anyways
Vick is finally healthy and has passed the concussion tests, but he is inactive tonight, where do you think he'll end up?

AZ could use the help. Although, they'd be understandably gun shy of picking up another former Eagles QB.

NYJ seem to love a good circus lately. I think Rex Ryan would have to leave first though. I think Sanchez and Tebow must be supplying him with pictures of their mothers' feet or something. Seriously, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Rex is fired and the new regime cleaned house of Tebow and Sanchez. Then the question would be whether they would elevate and develop McElroy, draft a new franchise QB or bring in a FA like Vick? They could always keep Sanchez on a short leash with McElroy pushing him. Either way, I think Tebow is going bye-bye. Too much distraction and too little production.

KC needs to get a better QB in there. Combine Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi and you'd still have a below average QB. I think there'll be big changes in the front office and coaching staff there. KC used to be one of the most rabid fan bases around. When they start writing obituaries and wearing bags, something seriously needs to change. Vick would be a stop gap until they can either draft and develop a real QB or develop Alex Tanney.

Alex Tanney Trick Shot Quarterback - Better Than Johnny Mac - YouTube

Alex Tanney Trick Shot Quarterback - Better Than Johnny Mac - YouTube

I'm tempted to say Cleveland, but I think Brandon Weeden has been steadily improving throughout the season.

Jacksonville is a possibility. However, I think there will be a coaching change during the off season and they might be willing to see if the new regime can get improvement out of Gabbert and/or Henne before bringing in an aging QB on the downhill slide.

If I had to put money on it:
#1 Backup anywhere but Philly or Dallas.
#2 NYJ
#3 KC
#4 Jacksonville
#5 AZ

[xkiller]

Originally Posted by japoelflaco

It doesn't matter if the Raiders haven't won or played in over a decade... you seem don't get the gest of all the post about the Pats and their bandwagoners.
No Pat fan was here when they were 3-3. Is what we mean.



I said the Packers lost because they didn't have a running game, not that the Giants won because they had one. See there's a difference. That type of offense most of the time fails in pivotal moments. 98 Vikings, Oilers of the 90's, Pats and Colts in 09 and 10.

Anyways
Vick is finally healthy and has passed the concussion tests, but he is inactive tonight, where do you think he'll end up?

There are small murmurs in Minesota about him, and K.C. , AZ. and Buff. all need Qb's and even an old Vick is better than any of the Qb's in this years draft.I still think if/when Philly cuts him I believe he will be done .I just don't see to many teams taking a chance on an injury prone 33 yr old Qb unless he was willing to take a major Pay cut and possibly accept a backup roll.

[Mo]

Man how bad are the Eagles
They need a QB so bad what are going to be the chocies @ 2013 Draft?

[xkiller]

Originally Posted by M.23

Man how bad are the Eagles
They need a QB so bad what are going to be the chocies @ 2013 Draft?

I think they believe they found their "guy" in Foles ,time will tell .People will disagree but I don't see a real franchise QB in this draft. Injuries have decimated the Eagles squad they are a better when healthy.

[lonewolfz28]

Originally Posted by heroinekiller

I think they believe they found their "guy" in Foles ,time will tell .People will disagree but I don't see a real franchise QB in this draft. Injuries have decimated the Eagles squad they are a better when healthy.

There are a couple already getting hype:
1. Geno Smith WVU: 6'3", 214lbs, 71% accuracy, 4000 yards, 40 TD's, 6 INT's. Good mobility, but needs to work on his footwork when setting for throws.

2. Matt Barkley USC: 6'2", 220lbs, 64% accuracy, 3273 yards, 36 TD's, 15 INT's. Considered to be the most "NFL ready" QB. He was a lot better in 2011 when his OL actually protected him(39 TD's/7 Int's). Losing Matt Kalil looked like it hurt him this season.

3. Tyler Wilson, Ark: 6'3", 220lbs, 63% accuracy (2011), 3638 yards (2011), 24 TD's (2011), 6 Int's (2011). I used 2011's stats because the Arkansas program was so fucked up this season from the top down: Bobby Petrino going bye-bye, losing 3 of his top WR's from 2011 and his OL being average at best. Despite that and a concussion that cost him a game and a half, he still put up some decent numbers: 62%/3387/21/13. That's not bad playing in the SEC.

4. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse: 6'2", 229lbs, 63% accuracy, 3619 yards, 24 TD's, 9 Int's. He's starting to move up some mock draft boards as a dark horse.

5. Landry Jones, Oklahoma's name will also likely start climbing the boards again.

Of course, all of these names will go up and down the draft boards during the bowl games, Senior Bowl, East-West Shrine game, Combine, Pro Days, etc. Sure, there's no RGIII or Andrew Luck this year. But, there looks like there could be several Russell Wilson's or Colin Kaepernicks (one year of development).

[P.M. Fun]

Important games are scheduled for this weekend, such as Steelers vs Cowboys, Packers vs Bears, Colts vs Texans & Broncos vs Ravens.
But, 2 of them are pivotal IMO.
Giants vs Falcons. Let's see what the real power of Atlanda is, against the Champs. A much-needed game to win for the Giants.
And, finally the "huge" game between the 49ers & the Patriots. The best defense against the best offense in the league. I really count the hours for this one.