NFL this week

[P.M. Fun]

Originally Posted by thefrostqueen

I think Patriots had kicked the butt of your favorite team and you don't like them, or you don't know many things about football. Or maybe both. The more possible is the second by the way (i read some of your posts). You like the Cardinals, that is enough... A team who forgot how to win and lost their last game 58-0. You also suggest to make MVP the defensive players... You see the wrong sport, boxing & wrestling are your games. I return to you the irony, from the gif.

Originally Posted by P.M. Fun

I think Patriots had kicked the butt of your favorite team and you don't like them, or you don't know many things about football. Or maybe both. The more possible is the second by the way (i read some of your posts). You like the Cardinals, that is enough... A team who forgot how to win and lost their last game 58-0. You also suggest to make MVP the defensive players... You see the wrong sport, boxing & wrestling are your games. I return to you the irony, from the gif.

I live in Arizona, but I'm not a Cardinals fan.
If you read far enough back in this thread, you'll see that.

[chajonator]

Originally Posted by P.M. Fun

Patriots crashed them 42-14, few weeks after Green Bay did the same thing.
I enjoyed it very much.
New England Patriots play at the time the best football in the league (i am glad about that)
GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And then they ask why people dislikes (hates) the Pats and their fans.

[xkiller]

Originally Posted by japoelflaco

And then they ask why people dislikes (hates) the Pats and their fans.

They do tend to come out of nowhere the close the playoffs get don't they ?..Where they when the Pats lost to the Ravens ,Seahawks, And the CARDINALS??
Not a pats or Brady hater or fan ,I just gotta wonder if they didn't "spy" on all those teams to win Superbowls would we be talking about Brady like he was the next Jim Kelly??

[lonewolfz28]

Originally Posted by japoelflaco

And then they ask why people dislikes (hates) the Pats and their fans.

Not to mention Tom Brady sitting there pouting and complaining to the officials anytime he gets touched by a defender and no flag is thrown. I remember a game last season where the guy barely brushed by him and he looks at the official with a "where's the flag" look and gesture...and the official actually threw it.

Meanwhile, Vick, Rodgers, Romo, Cutler and just about every other QB not named Brady, Brees or P. Manning are continually peeling themselves off the turf play after play with no little yellow hankies in sight. I've seen Romo get plastered late and just look at the official with a wry grin on his face like "really". No flag.

[xkiller]

Originally Posted by P.M. Fun

You also suggest to make MVP the defensive players.

Does ANYONE understand this ?..

[lonewolfz28]

Originally Posted by heroinekiller

Does ANYONE know what this means?..

Interpretation:
"You also suggest making defensive players the league MVP".

Remember, English is a second language for a lot of posters here. I've gotten decent at interpreting.

I think it was meant to disparage Frosty's football knowledge. All it really accomplished was calling their own knowledge into question. Two defensive players have won the league MVP since 1957, Alan Page (1971) and Lawrence Taylor (1986). Frosty even pointed out LT as an example earlier. There is even a Kicker that has won it, Mark Moseley(1982).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...e_Player_Award

I would have no problem with a defensive player winning the MVP. Especially in those seasons where a defensive juggernaut like the 2001 Ravens, 2008 Giants or 2006 Steelers carry a weak offense and win the Superbowl.

Originally Posted by heroinekiller

Does ANYONE understand this ?..

As lonewolfz28 suggested above, that was meant for my wish to split the MVP
into separate offensive/defensive categories.
On another note, he may have taken my ribbing of his Pats as something meant maliciously.
I do not care for Brady or the Pats, but I do not hate them.

[P.M. Fun]

Patriot fans "do tend to come out of nowhere the close the playoffs get"? We are here all the time. See a little history of the game the last 10 years or so. Pats won their division almost every year. They are the most successful team in the NFL the last 12 years. I don't see a reason for us to hide.
You compare the Patriots to Ravens ,Seahawks, or the Cardinals? Is that a joke? You enjoy it when Ravens won the Chiefs 9-6? Without a touchdown? This is not football score, this is a waterpolo one. To mention the Seahawks or the Cardinals and compare them with the Patriots is sacrilege.
People dislike Patriots and their fans mr. japoelflaco? To make you see it better. Everybody who is not a Juventus fan in Italy, hates Juve. Why? It's obvious.
One philosopher once said "tell me how many are your enemies, to tell you how big you are".
If someone is not a team fanatic, how he cannot like the game of the Patriots? They average more than 4 touchdowns per game.
If English was my 1st language i would tell much more.

[chajonator]

Originally Posted by P.M. Fun

Patriot fans "do tend to come out of nowhere the close the playoffs get"? We are here all the time. See a little history of the game the last 10 years or so. Pats won their division almost every year. They are the most successful team in the NFL the last 12 years. I don't see a reason for us to hide.
You compare the Patriots to Ravens ,Seahawks, or the Cardinals? Is that a joke? You enjoy it when Ravens won the Chiefs 9-6? Without a touchdown? This is not football score, this is a waterpolo one. To mention the Seahawks or the Cardinals and compare them with the Patriots is sacrilege.
People dislike Patriots and their fans mr. japoelflaco? To make you see it better. Everybody who is not a Juventus fan in Italy, hates Juve. Why? It's obvious.
One philosopher once said "tell me how many are your enemies, to tell you how big you are".
If someone is not a team fanatic, how he cannot like the game of the Patriots? They average more than 4 touchdowns per game.
If English was my 1st language i would tell much more.

Quite obvious: 'cause they ARE CHEATERS!!!
The same applies to the Pats, with the "Tuck Rule" (where Brady clearly had both hands on the football), SpyGate and the antics of Brady, Welker etc where they can't be touched cause they jump like if they have been raped.
Pass interference against Welker in the game against the Texans my ass. Plus don't forget the Pats have been only big in the last decade, they have another 5 decades of shame, so yes that team is full of bandwagoners.

Onto your second point, not necesarily. If I were starting all over again and had to choose a team to suppport for their style of playing, I'd probably liked the current form of the 49ers. I like ferocious defense, with a good run game and the ocasional big play. I hate the stuck up attitude of pure passing teams like the Packers, Pats (although theirs is more a dink and donk), Eagles, Colts (with Peyton) and now the Broncos. I remember one interview of Rodgers in NFL network where he was asked about the poor run game of the Packers and he replied: "Do we need one?" Then he and the Packers got raped by the Giants.

And Im a Raider and by their performances in the last decade you can tell why I dislike bandwagoners. Through good and bad.