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chajonator · 11th December 2012, 01:38

Who wins tonight?
I want Hou to win so I can stop hearing all this nonesense about the Pats having a run game so they are bound to the SB.

lonewolfz28 · 11th December 2012, 03:18

Can I wish for a tie after they beat the crap out of each other for an hour and 15 minutes? I can't stand either team. But, I despise the Patriots more.

xkiller · 11th December 2012, 07:06

42-14??? holy poop!!

kinda reminds you of that 42 - 24 Green Bay game

So are the pats the best in the AFC?

Can the Texans beat a team with a quality Qb?(no the week 3 win over Peyton doesn't count)

Will my beloved Titans ever win another game?

Mo · 11th December 2012, 08:07

Damn the Texans just haven't shown up in the big games with class QB first Rodgers now Brady not good when it comes down to the big games.
Just like the Falcons the record might not be as good as the team?

Mo · 11th December 2012, 16:38

BTW i don't think it will happen but AP should win the MVP this season the guy is a beast & getting no help from the Vikings QB which shows just how amazing he has been.
My bet is it will go to P.Manning cuz of the comeback he had tho again AP comeback is better

11th December 2012, 17:55

Between the two, I'd like to see AP win it as well but Manning is probably a lock.
Actually I'd like to see someone besides a QB or RB win it for a change.
I think LT was the last player to win it that wasn't at those two positions,
and that's damn near 30 years ago.

lonewolfz28 · 11th December 2012, 18:41

Then you start getting into the argument over whether it should be for the player that is the most valuable in the league (i.e. performance way above and beyond anyone else in the league) or the most valuable to their team (i.e. caused a big turnaround or carried their team through their play). AP beats the single season rushing record and he would be the most valuable in the league. Peyton Manning would arguably be the most valuable to his team.

Peyton Manning isn't even the best QB in the league. He's up there, but I don't believe he's the absolute best. As much as I can't stand the SOB, Tom Brady is the best QB in the league IMHO. I'd even take RGIII over Peyton this season.

11th December 2012, 19:38

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Originally Posted by lonewolfz28

As much as I can't stand the SOB, Tom Brady is the best QB in the league IMHO.

It just gets old when the MVP voting is QB, QB, QB, RB, QB, QB, QB..etc.
There's a lot of good players (past and present) worthy of this prize
but it's always awarded to the flash players.

They should at least split it into a offensive/defensive MVP.

P.M. Fun · 12th December 2012, 00:11

For another time we see that the schedule in the NFL creates "BIG BUBBLES". Houston & Atlanda are this year's Bubbles. Both of them are weak teams. But with an easy schedule and almost all their wins against opponents below .500 percent are sure for the playoffs. But there, they're gonna be crashed big time. Yesterday's kick in the butt is just a message.
Patriots crashed them 42-14, few weeks after Green Bay did the same thing.
I enjoyed it very much.
New England Patriots play at the time the best football in the league (i am glad about that) and they have the best quarterback in the league (Aaron Rodgers of the Packers is my second best). The only threat for them for the AFC title are the Denver Broncos.
GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12th December 2012, 14:53

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Originally Posted by P.M. Fun

GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by thefrostqueen

11th December 2012, 03:18	#542
lonewolfz28 Registered User Addicted Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In a den in the Adirondacks Posts: 750 Thanks: 6,686 Thanked 2,845 Times in 742 Posts	Can I wish for a tie after they beat the crap out of each other for an hour and 15 minutes? I can't stand either team. But, I despise the Patriots more. __________________ Rabid and luvin' it!

11th December 2012, 07:06	#543
xkiller Registered User Addicted Join Date: May 2009 Location: Miami FLA Posts: 425 Thanks: 1,199 Thanked 1,967 Times in 401 Posts	42-14??? holy poop!! kinda reminds you of that 42 - 24 Green Bay game So are the pats the best in the AFC? Can the Texans beat a team with a quality Qb?(no the week 3 win over Peyton doesn't count) Will my beloved Titans ever win another game? Last edited by xkiller; 11th December 2012 at 07:08. Reason: I don't know how to spell "with"

11th December 2012, 08:07	#544
Mo Registered User Forum Lord Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,205 Thanks: 39,681 Thanked 3,725 Times in 1,088 Posts	Damn the Texans just haven't shown up in the big games with class QB first Rodgers now Brady not good when it comes down to the big games. Just like the Falcons the record might not be as good as the team? __________________ RIP Dad 1946-2014 YNWA Last edited by Mo; 14th December 2012 at 15:35.

11th December 2012, 16:38	#545
Mo Registered User Forum Lord Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,205 Thanks: 39,681 Thanked 3,725 Times in 1,088 Posts	BTW i don't think it will happen but AP should win the MVP this season the guy is a beast & getting no help from the Vikings QB which shows just how amazing he has been. My bet is it will go to P.Manning cuz of the comeback he had tho again AP comeback is better __________________ RIP Dad 1946-2014 YNWA

11th December 2012, 18:41	#547
lonewolfz28 Registered User Addicted Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In a den in the Adirondacks Posts: 750 Thanks: 6,686 Thanked 2,845 Times in 742 Posts	Then you start getting into the argument over whether it should be for the player that is the most valuable in the league (i.e. performance way above and beyond anyone else in the league) or the most valuable to their team (i.e. caused a big turnaround or carried their team through their play). AP beats the single season rushing record and he would be the most valuable in the league. Peyton Manning would arguably be the most valuable to his team. Peyton Manning isn't even the best QB in the league. He's up there, but I don't believe he's the absolute best. As much as I can't stand the SOB, Tom Brady is the best QB in the league IMHO. I'd even take RGIII over Peyton this season. __________________ Rabid and luvin' it!

11th December 2012, 01:38	#541
chajonator Registered User Beyond Redemption Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 15,716 Thanks: 6,319 Thanked 147,123 Times in 15,166 Posts	Who wins tonight? I want Hou to win so I can stop hearing all this nonesense about the Pats having a run game so they are bound to the SB.

11th December 2012, 17:55	#546
Frosty Guest Posts: n/a	Between the two, I'd like to see AP win it as well but Manning is probably a lock. Actually I'd like to see someone besides a QB or RB win it for a change. I think LT was the last player to win it that wasn't at those two positions, and that's damn near 30 years ago.

12th December 2012, 00:11	#549
P.M. Fun Registered User Addicted Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 227 Thanks: 3,820 Thanked 852 Times in 203 Posts	For another time we see that the schedule in the NFL creates "BIG BUBBLES". Houston & Atlanda are this year's Bubbles. Both of them are weak teams. But with an easy schedule and almost all their wins against opponents below .500 percent are sure for the playoffs. But there, they're gonna be crashed big time. Yesterday's kick in the butt is just a message. Patriots crashed them 42-14, few weeks after Green Bay did the same thing. I enjoyed it very much. New England Patriots play at the time the best football in the league (i am glad about that) and they have the best quarterback in the league (Aaron Rodgers of the Packers is my second best). The only threat for them for the AFC title are the Denver Broncos. GO PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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