Pet Peeves, dislikes, & things you don't understand in porn?

[KeepItReal]

Originally Posted by abmel

I hate it when there's a clock in the room and/or the performer is wearing a wristwatch and the continuity is off - for example, the time changes twenty minutes or so with no explanation during the exposition

details, editors/directors, details.

The viewer's willing suspension of disbelief is based on attention to details.

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Suspension of disbelief? You mean you would actually think porn stuff is REAL otherwise!

[DemonicGeek]

Another pet peeve of mine is overblown stud reactions to their orgasm, when they don't shoot much out. I'm sure it feels good, though I'm sure at least sometimes they are chewing the scenery of the rented place...but such a bombastic reaction mixed with a small cumshot is not so entertaining for me.

"Aw yeah....aw YEAAAAH! Bah GAWD!" *dribble*

[bakajin]

Originally Posted by ebbie

In singling out one part of my response you have proved my point. I notice you do not challenge Japanese horror, Korean romance, classical musicians, animators, composers or directors who have all entered popular culture in western media in their own right. Your point was that western media stereotypes Asians in the meek and submissive "me so solly" mould which has just been shown to be utter rubbish. You simply do not choose to accept that the cultures are wildly different and true and complete crossover - from either side - is impossible. Nor have you embraced the fact that just as many of these actors I mentioned have never had anything to do with "kung-fu flicks", and those who have have often had a significant point to make about the strengths of Eastern culture and philosophy. The Karate Kid for instance was all about calm and discipline over brash violence. The same is true for Bullet Proof Monk. Sammo Hung's character in Martial Law did nothing but undermine and contradict stereotypical thinking, showing that there was much more to this man than kung fu and that in many ways his grasp of the world, of art, culture and philosophy was superior to those around him. If that isn't breaking a stereotype I don't know what is. It may be populist but that's entirely beside the point. You can't have it all ways. These are just a few examples.
In terms of higher culture one cannot dismiss Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon as a "Kung Fu flick". If a Chinese film being nominated for best film [not best foreign film] and the director nominated for best director at the Oscars isn't a validation of the quality of work then I don't know what is. Perhaps Memoirs of a Geisha which won three might do the trick for you?
As for the rest I can't recall Rosalind Chow in anything martial arts based, nor Yunjin Kim. Ling Bai may make questionable movie choices and behave like a crack whore in real life but her protrayal of Shen Yuelin in Red Corner was incredible. You might want to read up a bit on Joan chen's varied career as actor, producer and director too, and ask yourself why it has never been demanded that Yo Yo Ma play nothing but the Zhong-hu.
Who is guilty of generalisation and stereotype now?

Your observations simply don't hold up.

Nah, you're both talking past each other.

Things that we import that are already stamped with the culture of their origins are of course more likely to be less . . . stereotypical than things that are made here. Sure, CTHD was about things beyond swordplay, but that's because it draws on a history of novels about those warriors embroiled in those conflicts. Plus, it was made by one of the best directors of our day. That said, sure those and other works of art aren't chop socky type of stuff.

Those items of entertainment have little to do with WESTERN portrayals of Asian people.

Imported product generally, with rare (already noted) exceptions, reaches a small portion of the US populace. Even if you take the most financially successful cultural imports from SE Asia -- Crouching Tiger, various forms of "anime," -- they still reach a small portion of the people in the West. Moreover, they're already made with a specifically Asian audience in mind.

Hung's TV series was just an attempt to make money off the Rush Hour phenomenon. I guess it offers up readings of fighting stereotypes but really was it more than your basic cop show with some martial arts tossed in? I liked the show but I couldn't get more out of it than enjoying Sammo.

One might even argue that the fact that the one of the very few leads on a network show of Asian decent is going kicking people is a priori a stereotype.

Yes, Asians working in the Western industry, at least in the straight world, should take it upon themselves to change things and they are, but it ain't easy running your indie, All Asian romance up against Rush Hour 12, or whatever.

I don't think, as you might guess, that film will change attitudes. Attitudes will change film. Vast majority of people can't differentiate between Asian nationalities and cultures, and don't think it matters.

[the-escort]

Originally Posted by blozier2006

my peeve is "actresses" (and i use that term as loosely as possible here) who insult their viewers. I just watched a FAYE REAGAN video where, from what i saw before stopping it in disgust, she stayed completely dressed and went on a sing-song type diatribe about her viewers being 30-yr old+ perverts watching her, since they couldn't even score with a hooker. Also, she commented on guys "blowing their loads" at the sight of her fully clothed. She is hot, I will begrudgingly admit, but she has a completely piss-poor attitude. If you were to ask her to define "respect" and "gratitude", i would bet you dollars to donuts that she would draw a blank on both counts. She doesn't understand that beauty is something which can be stripped away at a moment's notice. Shee can be a swan now, and be the ugly duckling the next day, and be out of this line of work for that reason. Total air-head.

I'd agree...

My MAIN hate is when the girls put it on to the point it's ridiculous. Yeah sure I realise that you have to fake a bit, it is staged after all, but come on.. try tone it down a bit...

[tantalus1970]

Lack of imagination. Particularly at the moneyshot stage.

I checked out my collection of Lisa Ann scenes (no particular reason, I just happened to think of her when I thought about checking this) to compare how the scenes end.

I've got more than 50 Lisa Ann BG scenes (not including scenes where she's not the only woman), almost all from this forum, btw!

1 scene ends with her jacking the guy off (my favourite way to end a scene)

1 scene ends with 2 guys taking turns to cum in her ass.

No scene ends with him pulling out of her pussy/ass/mouth at the very last second and shooting his load as he pulls out (I know this is difficult to stage but they could at least try!)

No scene ends with a tit-fuck/tit-wank and him shooting his load between her tits.

No scene ends with her giving him a foot-job to get him off (I'm not really fussed by foot-sex, but I know there are guys out there who really like them)

Every other scene ends with the guy or guys jacking off. That's 96% of scenes ending exactly the same way.

[wifetaker85]

Very well said. The following link backs your claims:
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Originally Posted by ebbie

I don't think so. The boundaries of acceptability are being pushed back and challenged as a matter of course, and since the producers of such material aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, rather than being imaginative with how they set their scenes, their answer is to look at what others are doing and do it harder. Almost every scene in more mainstream porn follows similar lines now. Wank-Blow-Fuck-Anal-Blow/Wank/Facial. It doesn't matter who is producing for what or who is performing. The formula is largely interchangeable. To appear more "lustful" more guys are doing things like treading on the girls' face or slapping their breasts hard [which can actually cause cancerous cysts to form. Why do you think female boxers must wear heavily padded chest guards?]. spitting is common as is verbal abuse. I suppose they equate aggression with a demonstration of desire [did someone call these emotionally divorced morons "actors"?] and all is gradually creeping to more extremes as each seeks to outdo the other. More is better right? Badder is better right?
This is what pornography does. It pushes and pushes as they all try to outdo each other. We may be at the thin end of a long wedge but we are on it, whether people want to see it and admit it or not.
A few years ago anal sex was a rarity. Now girls are having so much shoved up their backsides so hard and so often they are prolapsing. Breakdowns are common. Addiction is common. Far more common than ever they were. You may choose to think that none of this is related and it's all purely coincidental. I do not.
If you want to see the way treatment of women in porn scenes has degraded over time pick random scenes from the last fifteen or twenty years. A couple from each year. Watch them. Then just follow the gradient curve to see where we'll be in five years or ten. Then look at how this material has influence people - especially now when the internet allows the impressionable young to see such material - and again follow the gradient curve.

It doesn't take a genius to see what's plainly there.

[packard1963]

Originally Posted by Jeff Vader

Why not have a big arrow pointing down saying 'insert cock here' ?

Give it time and I'm sure those skank tramps & others will go the way if the arrow in a few years time!
I agree with just about everything you said and it always goes back to what ever happened when the male in the movie was just happy to screw a hot woman. Now I wonder if they like them at all ? You know the deal, shove your meat down their throat till there eyes water and eyes run. WOW so attractive. Dont get me wrong, I know some ladys do like trying it, but to the point they do lets get real.
There is no number one thing I dislike more than other but to say in simple terms its not as good as it used to be. But why in god names to some of the most beautiful woman with perfect little breasts get the idea they need DD or bigger fake tits a blind man could spot.

Now its not what movies to view or buy its what good sex scenes with your favourite woman to get. imo

[OnlineMacho]

Originally Posted by parker8328

- the way the women look... tats, implants, etc.
- no passion, hardly ever see kissing anymore
- disinterested partners... hardly ever see any real chemistry... a lot of them look like they'd rather be somewhere else

- Nowadays for biggest part of mankind big tits is gorgeous and other stuff
- There`s so much porn, i dont even know wahy are you saying this... For exmple Devon - lots of passion
- disinterester partners huh? try to become fucker, that fucks 24 hours aday, 7 days in a week... youd rather become a gay or cut your dick off...

[DoctorNo]

Originally Posted by Jeff Vader

Why not have a big arrow pointing down saying 'insert cock here' ?

[alexora]

Originally Posted by Jeff Vader

Why not have a big arrow pointing down saying 'insert cock here' ?

Originally Posted by DoctorNo