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burtog · 10th February 2012, 04:10

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Originally Posted by eagleeagle

I'm drawing a blank on what Cena will do after Wrestlemania .

I don't know what he'll do straight away, feud-wise, but I'd wager that his first promo on Raw (after beating Rocky at Mania the night before) is interrupted with the lights going out and a <BONG> and the seed for Taker/Cena at the following Mania will be planted. And then there'll be the year-long build to that, the way they did Cena/Rock this year.

I'd love it if Seven Churches' suggestion about Cena/Ziggler happened, though. Make them go at it in a #1 contender's match that ultimately bleeds into a feud, with Ziggler going over and getting a real run against Punk for the Summer.

And my guess for Kane (etc.) for Mania is that the rumored "All former world/heavyweight champs in MITB" match happens, and Kane & Swagger will be in that. I don't think Kane/Ryder is a Mania-worthy match, and I don't think the company cares enough about having the US title defended at the show.

Oh, and I'm bummed that Rock is going to be at the Boston Raw; I was thinking of going in for that ... but if Rock is there, it's more likely to sell out & thus my hope for papered (or dirt-cheap-seats) is less likely to happen.

Karmafan · 10th February 2012, 04:17

For Swagger to have any chance at these high profile matches he needs to quit being buried by everyone. He needs some W I N s against competent talent.

Absent Friend · 10th February 2012, 04:34

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Originally Posted by burtog

I don't know what he'll do straight away, feud-wise, but I'd wager that his first promo on Raw (after beating Rocky at Mania the night before) is interrupted with the lights going out and a <BONG> and the seed for Taker/Cena at the following Mania will be planted. And then there'll be the year-long build to that, the way they did Cena/Rock this year.

I'd love it if Seven Churches' suggestion about Cena/Ziggler happened, though. Make them go at it in a #1 contender's match that ultimately bleeds into a feud, with Ziggler going over and getting a real run against Punk for the Summer.

And my guess for Kane (etc.) for Mania is that the rumored "All former world/heavyweight champs in MITB" match happens, and Kane & Swagger will be in that. I don't think Kane/Ryder is a Mania-worthy match, and I don't think the company cares enough about having the US title defended at the show.

Oh, and I'm bummed that Rock is going to be at the Boston Raw; I was thinking of going in for that ... but if Rock is there, it's more likely to sell out & thus my hope for papered (or dirt-cheap-seats) is less likely to happen.

Cena and Undertaker? I never thought of that. Boy would Streak ending fear be at an all time high. I'd certainly have that fear as well. They could make it like Undertaker interrupting Cena having a victory speech, noting that he never beaten Undertaker. I think that's a fact too. They only faced off one on one a few times: once on RAW in late 2006, and they had a feud in Summer 2003. Now with Cena's namepower, it'd be something to get tons of people talking. For that to happen, no titles on the line, I think that goes without saying. Wrestlemania time, The Streak is practically as important, if not more, than a world title match. It would also work with Cena admitting that he's done it all in WWE except challenge The Streak. If Cena won that match, he will be the most hated guy in wrestling history. I'd even hate him maybe. Very interesting.

Colin_Work · 10th February 2012, 13:30

IF Cena v Undertaker were to happen at Wrestlemania 29, I myself would like to see Taker win it. If for one thing only, to keep the streak alive because it is Undertaker's greatest legacy. All the things that he has done in his storied career, that is the one thing that fans will remember in years to come. The fact that he went undefeated at the biggest show of the year. It is more important that any of his title reigns or any particular match. Undertaker IS Wrestlemania. And also, I don't think that at this point in his career, Cena needs to be distinguished as the guy that ended Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak. Like Seven Churches said "If Cena won that match, he will be the most hated guy in wrestling history" and unless the company decided to turn him heel and keep him heel for the match, their biggest face would forever be hated by the WWE Fans. And with all the backstage politics, if Shawn Michaels and HHH can't be booked to end the streak...no way Cena will be.

Karmafan · 10th February 2012, 15:42

UT wins the WMs because he is booked to win it.

10th February 2012, 19:52

I've been wanting Undertaker vs Cena for a few years now at Wrestlemania. It is really The only one big match that hasn't been done at Wrestlemania. Each year that passes the less likely it becomes but I'd like to see it .

Absent Friend · 10th February 2012, 20:01

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Originally Posted by eagleeagle

I've been wanting Undertaker vs Cena for a few years now at Wrestlemania. It is really The only one big match that hasn't been done at Wrestlemania. Each year that passes the less likely it becomes but I'd like to see it .

I agree. I remember an interview Cena did where he mentioned trying to end the Streak at Wrestlemania 30 at Madison Square Garden. That's interesting. I feel The Streak is so big, that it's too late to try and break it. It's all in the decisions of creative and Undertaker himself, but if it were broken to elevate a young talent, it's too big a risk. I mean what if that young talent were to flop big time in the future? What if they don't properly follow up such an accomplishment by having a successful career? Then on the other side of the coin, if an established name ended it, how needless ending the Streak is depends on how much of a legend, or name they are. If HHH were to end the Streak for example, there is no gain to either man. HHH's career is already well decorated. Plus, Colin said it: if HBK and HHH couldn't end the Streak, nobody else should.

If I can only name one guy who could've ended the Streak, and was actually planned to end it, and it would work, was Orton. Orton didn't want to end The Streak out of respect for Undertaker. Well, that was almost 7 years ago, and look at Orton now. He is still kicking, and while I don't like to change the past, he might've still had the same successful career as he has now. The Streak has become a landmark for Wrestlemania, and is a major sign of respect from the company towards The Undertaker. It's an accomplishment well deserved to a man who worked for the company's favor for 20 years. True professional.

Karmafan · 10th February 2012, 20:27

By WM 30 Mark will be using a walker to get to the ring. Him losing the match and his streak would be undedrstandable. The question on UT/WM is if he is willing to do the job to get a younger talent over or if he would use his stroke to keep the streak going and bury whoever he wrestling?

Absent Friend · 10th February 2012, 21:05

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Originally Posted by Karmafan

By WM 30 Mark will be using a walker to get to the ring. Him losing the match and his streak would be undedrstandable. The question on UT/WM is if he is willing to do the job to get a younger talent over or if he would use his stroke to keep the streak going and bury whoever he wrestling?

From all I've read and heard, Undertaker doesn't care about the Streak as much as fans do. The situation with Orton was a result of Undertaker wanting him to end the Streak. The Wrestlemania DVD released last year had guys discuss The Streak. Chris Jericho said that Undertaker would want to let someone he felt was the future, end the Streak. There were reports last year that 'Taker wanted Wade Barrett for Wrestlemania. Not sure if he wanted him to end The Streak. I said it already, the Streak is a sign of respect from the company for Undertaker's loyalty, professionalism, and whatnot. The fact HBK and HHH didn't end the Streak, show the amount of respect even those guys have for Undertaker. If Cena were to get a crack at The Streak, he might even not want to end it, as a sign of respect. I think he's willing to do the job, but it's too late now. His career is winding down, and ending it could very well be the worst day in wrestling history. It would have to be extremely well planned and thinking for the future benefits of the entire company. It's that huge now.

Colin_Work · 10th February 2012, 23:58

I once read that the only guy Taker would lose the streak to was Kane, but that was awhile ago. As far as the whole concept of The Streak being as big a deal to Taker himself as it is the fans...I can see that. Taker seems like a guy who would lose at Wrestlemania to whoever, but it would have to be the right guy. But I also think that as level headed a guy he is...You know Taker loves the idea of having gone 19 straight events and always winning. No matter what anyone says, everyone has at least some ego.

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Karmafan Who Cut The Cheese? Beyond Redemption Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 11,387 Thanks: 39,606 Thanked 38,112 Times in 9,853 Posts	For Swagger to have any chance at these high profile matches he needs to quit being buried by everyone. He needs some W I N s against competent talent.

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Colin_Work Registered User Addicted Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 284 Thanks: 106 Thanked 563 Times in 261 Posts	IF Cena v Undertaker were to happen at Wrestlemania 29, I myself would like to see Taker win it. If for one thing only, to keep the streak alive because it is Undertaker's greatest legacy. All the things that he has done in his storied career, that is the one thing that fans will remember in years to come. The fact that he went undefeated at the biggest show of the year. It is more important that any of his title reigns or any particular match. Undertaker IS Wrestlemania. And also, I don't think that at this point in his career, Cena needs to be distinguished as the guy that ended Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak. Like Seven Churches said "If Cena won that match, he will be the most hated guy in wrestling history" and unless the company decided to turn him heel and keep him heel for the match, their biggest face would forever be hated by the WWE Fans. And with all the backstage politics, if Shawn Michaels and HHH can't be booked to end the streak...no way Cena will be.

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Karmafan Who Cut The Cheese? Beyond Redemption Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 11,387 Thanks: 39,606 Thanked 38,112 Times in 9,853 Posts	UT wins the WMs because he is booked to win it.

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Alan Kellerman Guest Posts: n/a	I've been wanting Undertaker vs Cena for a few years now at Wrestlemania. It is really The only one big match that hasn't been done at Wrestlemania. Each year that passes the less likely it becomes but I'd like to see it .

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Karmafan Who Cut The Cheese? Beyond Redemption Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 11,387 Thanks: 39,606 Thanked 38,112 Times in 9,853 Posts	By WM 30 Mark will be using a walker to get to the ring. Him losing the match and his streak would be undedrstandable. The question on UT/WM is if he is willing to do the job to get a younger talent over or if he would use his stroke to keep the streak going and bury whoever he wrestling?

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Colin_Work Registered User Addicted Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 284 Thanks: 106 Thanked 563 Times in 261 Posts	I once read that the only guy Taker would lose the streak to was Kane, but that was awhile ago. As far as the whole concept of The Streak being as big a deal to Taker himself as it is the fans...I can see that. Taker seems like a guy who would lose at Wrestlemania to whoever, but it would have to be the right guy. But I also think that as level headed a guy he is...You know Taker loves the idea of having gone 19 straight events and always winning. No matter what anyone says, everyone has at least some ego.