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7th August 2020, 05:08 | #21 | |
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Lockdowns have not helped the US slow the virus. I suspect there are people who did not bother locking down, or people opened up too early. In the UK and Europe, the lockdowns helped a lot. Now it's all about preventing a second wave. Looks like the US is still dealing with the first wave. |
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I wish that they would look at the figures and realize that the recent spike in infections hasn't resulted in the same number of hospitalizations or fatalities that happened in April.
They are still in panic mode and about stopping the spread. The vulnerable are better protected now. We don't need another economy wrecking lockdown. BBC reported yesterday the Bank of England expected a 23% drop in UK GDP with recovery to take over a year. They interviewed two people from financial institutions, one said BoE was being optimistic and the recovery would be slower, the other said they believed the recovery would be faster and already underway. With true BBC bias the bulletins only repeated the pessimist's viewpoint
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7th August 2020, 09:02 | #24 | |
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I suspect they did work. Without them, who knows how many would have died in the US. Around 160 thousand and counting already, bloody hell. 8 to 12 weeks of lockdowns is fine, but I think most people start to lose patience after that. It is understandable. Most people can't afford not to work. It's a tough balancing act. With 90 minute Covid-19 tests coming soon, I think life will be back to normal soon. I hope small businesses across the globe manage to survive this somehow, particulary in the poor nations. |
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The reality is the domino effect. My city has a relatively new arena that has to be funded. There are all sorts of relatively new restaurants and hotels in the general location etc etc etc.... Cities are going to be so screwed, states are going to be so screwed with revenue drying up and people unemployed..... They helped finance a lot of this construction certain the revenue would be flowing in. Malls are empty, stores are filing bankruptcy... My city already had debt problems before this started, wait until apartment buildings are kicking people out and people are losing their homes. I'm scared (very concerned). The stock market is completely insane right now! Insane! |
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Shutdowns did nothing to stop Corona? What state/country do you live in? Oblivion?
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My state already had debt problems, from bailing out low tax Red states. What's your point? If we got all of our federal tax back, instead of only 1/7th of what we pay into federal taxes? Us and many other states would be rocking, instead of suffering. Take a guess which states pay least into the system, then they get out of it. I already gave a clue, if you know what state I live in. Politics is the rule of the world, trying to have a serious discussion about just about anything. Is nearly impossible, without it coming into play some where, some time. I don't want this turning political, but the reality is, it is.
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Exactly. If NY & NJ, still leading the country in Corona deaths didn't shut down? America would be talking about millions of deaths instead of 165,000.Every other state that was 1st affected got hit hard and fast, because little was known about Corona and what to do. Then some people in charge denied it was even real, and did little to nothing to help the 1st states effected. Shutting down was the ONLY choice there was, when something INSANE like that happens. Businesses in the NY/NJ area would have stayed open, airports. It's the business capital of the world here. Hospitals here would have been so over whelmed, so many people would have died at home, on the streets. Businesses would be spreading it like wildfire. All the tourists would have kept bringing it here. Non believers would have gone on vacation, spreading it all across the country. Texas, Florida and California, would have exploded a month after we did, not months after we did.
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Places like Australia and New Zealand who have pretty much stopped the spread are now effectively screwed and will have to keep their borders shut to all international visitors until a vaccine is developed. Sweden got it right, protect the old & vulnerable, let it burn thru the gen pop and get on with it. Their economy is booming and they have no fear of a second wave since they've already reached herd immunity. |
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First it was just Melbourne that closed down everything. Now it's ALL Australia closed, from Brisbane to Sydney to Perth. The only traffic they got is from UPS, FedEx and other Global carriers arriving and departing to and from Australia (saw a few UPS 747s and FedEx 767s on FlightRadar landing in Sydney from LA, this night). But anything else, all closed. I thought I could finally see my relatives, this XMas. But it looks like I will have to postpone everything until a fucking vaccine is finally ready. Fucking shitty plague, not pandemic. Because, damn. It royally fucked up everything.
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