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Old 5th September 2021, 23:42   #2721
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They're not talking about that one in the UK, but French media have mentioned it.
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the last news story i saw as of a couple days ago is at least 55 cases of the MU variant have been detected in the UK, 47 of them in England.
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Still no talk about this new MU variant here in Italy at all
Instead, here in Italy they're only talking about making the vaccine mandatory for everyone, starting probably from late September, in case we don't reach, at least, the 90% of the population vaccinated.
They're already working on a new set of laws for this, and they're also discussing about third doses as well.

While I did get vaccinated, and i'm waiting to get my 2nd shot the next week, i'm totally against in making the vaccine mandatory for everyone.
What about people who, for health reasons, cannot get it in the first place and were advised by their GP doctors to not do it? Are we gonna make those people pay huge fines, put them in jail, or what? C'mon.
You just can't force no one.

And what about this new variant?
If it makes current vaccines useless, unless they come up with a modified vaccine in a short timeframe (which I highly doubt they will), then making the vaccine mandatory it will be just like prescribing Aspirin for a cancer patient who's in constant pain.
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No, they won't make it mandatory if they're clinically unable to have the vaccine, well, that's what they say anyway.
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The government here in the U.S. have said from the start they will not force anyone to take the vaccine, but at the same time the government is telling business to tell their employees to get vaccinated or be fired, also not allowing unvaccinated people to go certain places or do certain things. Technically the government is not forcing people to get vaccinated but they really are.

While i would like it if most people would get vaccinated so we can get rid of this virus before it gets rid of us, i would not like it if the government forces them, You know how governments are, they will take things too far like they usually do and also use it as precedent to force people to do who knows what in the future.

As for the people that have a real medical reason not to get the vaccine i don't have a problem with that but there are so many liars out there claiming fake bullshit reasons not to get the vaccine that it is messing it up for those who have a real legitimate reason not to, and no one believes them when they try to tell they can't take it.
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Proof that the USA doesn't have a monopoly on stupidity...

Man urinates after refusing to wear mask in B.C. fast food restaurant

PORT ALBERNI (NEWS 1130) – A man urinated on the floor of a fast food restaurant in Port Alberni on Saturday night, allegedly because he refused to wear a mask.

An onlooker captured the outburst at the Dairy Queen, and posted the video online.

Port Alberni RCMP say the incident began after he was denied service for refusing to wear a mask and left the store, returning to drop his pants and pee in protest.

“Staff there got into a heated discussion with him and he was asked to leave. He became verbally aggressive and abusive. He left the restaurant only to return shortly there after, and urinated at the counter,” RCMP said.

Masks have been mandatory in British Columbia since Aug. 25, prompting some backlash from anti-maskers. But it’s the first time anything like this has happened, according to Sgt. Chris Manseau.

“His actions are being investigated as an indecent act, as it appears that he willfully performed this act with the intent to insult or offend in a public place,” Manseau said.

The Port Alberni RCMP has released a photo of the suspect in hopes of identifying him.
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The government here in the U.S. have said from the start they will not force anyone to take the vaccine, but at the same time the government is telling business to tell their employees to get vaccinated or be fired, also not allowing unvaccinated people to go certain places or do certain things. Technically the government is not forcing people to get vaccinated but they really are.

While i would like it if most people would get vaccinated so we can get rid of this virus before it gets rid of us, i would not like it if the government forces them, You know how governments are, they will take things too far like they usually do and also use it as precedent to force people to do who knows what in the future.

As for the people that have a real medical reason not to get the vaccine i don't have a problem with that but there are so many liars out there claiming fake bullshit reasons not to get the vaccine that it is messing it up for those who have a real legitimate reason not to, and no one believes them when they try to tell they can't take it.
The part that pisses me off here at least in Alberta is that now our government is offering $100 for each shot that the anti-vaxxers get just so that they can get the numbers up to where they need to be. Those are my tax dollars!!!

Normally if you confront them and ask them why they'll have some weak and feeble excuse that doesn't even make any sense, one guy who was a holdout said he eventually got the the vaccine because his favourite bar wouldn't let him in without it, the problem is contrarians are trying to take over the world via the Internet, they are easy to spot they're the ones that if you tell them the sky is blue they'll say no it's purple
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The part that pisses me off here at least in Alberta is that now our government is offering $100 for each shot that the anti-vaxxers get just so that they can get the numbers up to where they need to be.
It's carrot and stick, but the main thing is encouraging people to get vaxed in this time of a public safety emergency, and discouraging those who will not go along wih the program.

I'm pretty sure that bribing with CAN$100 an antivaxer to comply, costs significantly less than it does to take them through the courts when they don't.

Either way, the tax payers such a yourself (and many millions more) will foot the bill.

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I think paying them to get vaccinated is a bad idea, If something else happens in the future, and unfortunately something will, them and even people that normally would have cooperated right away will probably hold out thinking "if i hold out they will pay me a lot of money later", If there's one thing that overrides someones self preservation instinct, It's greed, causing a delay in treating whatever problem arises in the future.

There is not really a good way to say this so... The anti-vaxers must be a special kind of stupid, Calling them retarded would be an insult to the retarded.

They refuse to take a vaccine created by the worlds top scientists, basically some of the most intelligent people on the planet but then go down to the local hardware or feed & grain store and take some medicine used mostly for de-worming pets and livestock because someone on youtube told them it works.
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I think paying them to get vaccinated is a bad idea, If something else happens in the future, and unfortunately something will, them and even people that normally would have cooperated right away will probably hold out thinking "if i hold out they will pay me a lot of money later", If there's one thing that overrides someones self preservation instinct, It's greed, causing a delay in treating whatever problem arises in the future.

There is not really a good way to say this so... The anti-vaxers must be a special kind of stupid, Calling them retarded would be an insult to the retarded.

They refuse to take a vaccine created by the worlds top scientists, basically some of the most intelligent people on the planet but then go down to the local hardware or feed & grain store and take some medicine used mostly for de-worming pets and livestock because someone on youtube told them it works.
Yep.
It's the reason why our government has decided to make it mandatory by law.
If more people cooperated, and instead of spreading fake news and making people believe in bullshits, did their research and listened to world's scientists, probably there wouldn't have been the need to, in the first place.

But seeing that some people prefer to lose their jobs, in order to not get vaccinated and get their COVID passport and get with the program, it was definitely inevitable......specially for people working in schools and hospitals, where there's always a huge need of personnel.

Besides, how many people died due to the vaccine vs COVID? Not that many, for the first case. But for the second? MILLIONS.
And that should definitely say something, even to the skeptical ones.
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