Keep2Share & Fileboom Issues

[BooBootheBear]

On top of all of that they're now throttling the free DLs so you can't go over 50kbs So forget about trying to get any file over 200mb in less than five hours.

This is the point where mods and admin on this forum should contact their support people as a group and tell them what the problems are. There's no point in these 3 hosts being kept on as approved here if you can't use them for anything but the tiniest files as long as you're using the very latest browsers. Not all hardware/OS can support the latest gen browsers. And not everyone can or wants to subjscribe for a month to get one or two files.

It's bullshit not being pulled by FJ DF, RG UL or any of the big file hosts. Only the 3 in one of FB K2s and Tez. All those poeple asking why they can't get past the wheel of doom or the endless blinking dots it's not their fault. It's the fault of the companies deliberately coding to force them off free downloads. They're trying to force people into taking paid memberships to get files. That blackmail crap goes against everything we know. But no one here seems to be doing anything about it or even trying.

What's the point in having one of the biggest forums on the web if you don't use that weight to stand up for your members when companies try to take advantage?

[-dAb-]

How do you know it's throttled to under 50k if you can't download anything?

I just ran simultaneous TZ, FB, and K2S downloads... got 30K on TZ (but that was from a non-PS website) but both the FB and K2S downloads were found here and ran at 200K. Running FB/K2S/TZ downloads "directly" (without clicking through PS) pretty much guarantees a 30k download speed, and has for years.

Mind you, I'm not trying to download a 5GB video via a 3g flip phone, but I am using an 11-year old PC running Win7. So it's not like it's top of the line stuff here. Sure, I would prefer the simplicity of older browsers but I doubt one could do much on the web today running Netscape Navigator.

Still better than cRapidgator (50k) or Filej(ch)oker (120k but a FIVE effing hour wait between files)

I'm not justifying K2S/FB as being great - they're overused and like FJ really do NOT deserve the special treatment (no mirror requirements) that they have, but the alternative of banning any hosts that work for the majority of users is having a forum like some other forums where every link is Filejoker. There are, unfortunately, several hosts here that don't work for everyone. A lot are geo-blocked. The reality is that very few uploaders actually use GOOD filehosts since the best ones for USERS happen to also be non-paying hosts, and the most prolific zero-day posters here aren't doing it for fun. They're doing it for money. And the shitty-for-free-users hosts pay the best.

[Klocmaster]

I am no expert here but Microsoft has discontinued support for internet Explorer and as many sites and users use ie as their main browser especially with older computers they are being forced to use Edge or google chrome. many fb k2s tez links work for me with edge and chrome even FileJoker but not in IE I have to copy and paste the links from one browser to another as I am using windows 8

[BooBootheBear]

I didn't say I couldn't download and I don't recall mentioning trying to use them on a phone or using IE. God almighty. I haven't used IE since the 90s. Has anyone? You should reread my posts.

You also don't mention if your "simultaneous downloads" are from paid or free accounts. Paid accounts don't seem to experience the same restrictions.

Many hosts have geo restrictions placed on them by Governments. That's not the companies fault. These access and throttling retrictions are deliberate coding choices by the company governing K2S/FB/Tez. Any company deliberatly restricting or denying mass users access as a means of forcing them into paid memberships should lose their status as an approved host.

It's one thing to limit access to more than one file every couple of hours. It's another completely to stop people even doing that unless they completely upgrade they systems or cough up.

Originally Posted by -dAb-

How do you know it's throttled to under 50k if you can't download anything?

I just ran simultaneous TZ, FB, and K2S downloads... got 30K on TZ (but that was from a non-PS website) but both the FB and K2S downloads were found here and ran at 200K. Running FB/K2S/TZ downloads "directly" (without clicking through PS) pretty much guarantees a 30k download speed, and has for years.

Mind you, I'm not trying to download a 5GB video via a 3g flip phone, but I am using an 11-year old PC running Win7. So it's not like it's top of the line stuff here. Sure, I would prefer the simplicity of older browsers but I doubt one could do much on the web today running Netscape Navigator.

Still better than cRapidgator (50k) or Filej(ch)oker (120k but a FIVE effing hour wait between files)

I'm not justifying K2S/FB as being great - they're overused and like FJ really do NOT deserve the special treatment (no mirror requirements) that they have, but the alternative of banning any hosts that work for the majority of users is having a forum like some other forums where every link is Filejoker. There are, unfortunately, several hosts here that don't work for everyone. A lot are geo-blocked. The reality is that very few uploaders actually use GOOD filehosts since the best ones for USERS happen to also be non-paying hosts, and the most prolific zero-day posters here aren't doing it for fun. They're doing it for money. And the shitty-for-free-users hosts pay the best.

[Obivanwa]

All free downloads are now max 50kbs for me too. It's clearly an issue for at least some people.

[BooBootheBear]

Simply put the company running k2s/FB/Tez have crippled the free DL system for casual users in a bid to push everyone into subscription purchases. FJ and DF don't do this. You can still access their files at about 150kbs. They restrict the number of DLs you can access by installing a wait time on your IP but that's fair enough for free DLs. RG and UL are accessible to all but they do throttle heavily. Hardly anyone posts to them anymore. That's not a co-incidence.

The K2S/FB/Tez move is a gear shift. It's one company controlling massive amounts of power taking advantage.

This forum represents a massive customer base. If the admins of this forum contacted their services people and expressed dissatisfaction and an intent to remove them as approved file hosts, they'd return the full compatibility and increase their throttle limit. They've been pushed that way before and caved to user pressure. This forum's bosses have to step up though. Not doing it is a massive failure of the members.

I'm not saying they shouldnt limit free access. They're running a business. But restricting access to all but the latest gen browsers and throttling DL speed for every file is just shit. If they get away with it all the file hosts will do it and this becomes a ghost town of cash whores and plunderers. The masses will look for alternatives to this forums model.

That's an inevitable outcome.

[-dAb-]

I have no idea if the downloads are from paid or free accounts... I assume that all the uploaders are on some sort of affiliate program (otherwise they wouldn't be using K2S/FB/TZ, or FJ/RG/UL etc). What I do know is that I'm not using an account at all, free, paid, etc. I only download as guest. And I still get 150k from K2S/FB as long as it's clicked through Planetsuzy. If it's not clicked through planetsuzy, I tend to see 30k, and has been that way for years. One thing I've heard, but as I do not have an account to verify this, is that uploaders themselves can actually choose to have their files throttled more drastically than the default.

I guess it really comes down to what one person vs another can tolerate. Personally I'd be fine with a filehost that only runs at 50k as long as it allows one file an hour and no captchas... well, that's Filefactory. Another host almost no one uses, btw. Sure, I love Zippyshare- I could saturate my bandwidth if I could find enough links to do so. But Zippy links are rare treasures since they don't pay.

Really, my biggest gripe with K2S/FB/TZ is the 5 files a day limit. Other than that they seem no better or worse than the other main filehosts.

Frankly, folks griping about the filehosts doesn't really seem to do anything here. The only 2 things I've ever seen get a filehost banned here was 1) the host started infecting everything with viruses or malware or 2) the host simply shut down/became unusable by the admins. Most of the Mods/Admins/etc that upload content are perfectly happy to allow the highly restricted filehosts since those restrictions are what make their own uploads pay out.

Originally Posted by BooBootheBear

I didn't say I couldn't download and I don't recall mentioning trying to use them on a phone or using IE. God almighty. I haven't used IE since the 90s. Has anyone? You should reread my posts.

You also don't mention if your "simultaneous downloads" are from paid or free accounts. Paid accounts don't seem to experience the same restrictions.

Many hosts have geo restrictions placed on them by Governments. That's not the companies fault. These access and throttling retrictions are deliberate coding choices by the company governing K2S/FB/Tez. Any company deliberatly restricting or denying mass users access as a means of forcing them into paid memberships should lose their status as an approved host.

It's one thing to limit access to more than one file every couple of hours. It's another completely to stop people even doing that unless they completely upgrade they systems or cough up.

[BooBootheBear]

If you're getting unimpeded access you're either accessinga geographical server that hasn't been updated by their coding changes yet or youre very lucky.
So many experiencing these difficulties across all three sister hosts shows it's a system issue following their coding change. Just because one person is lucky enough not to have these issues doesn't make it non existent. It just means that one person has had his ass kissed by a god.

Zippyshare is seen as the be all and end all for some but for many esp in EU/UK zippyshare is useless because it has been blocked by governments. You can access it through a VPN but it's tricky and often unreliable. Clicknupload is the better universal choice for that as it isn't blocked anywhere yet. Until a month ago Solidfiles offered another good alternative but they seem to have gone down and don't look like coming back.

FJ and DF do not throttle and still offer free DLs at between 120-200kbs depending on time of day and server load. I'm no fan of FJ at all but at the moment they are behaving well.

K2s/FB/Tez were until a fortnight ago the best and most reliable. then they changed theor coding. Now if you are running anything but the latest browsers be it Firefox Chrome or something else you can't get past the captcha which stalls on blinking dots or wheel of doom. Now they have throttled back even further from 50kbs to 30kbs. That makes them pointless. A 500mb file will take almost 4hours to DL. That's a return to dial-up. Assuming you can upgrade to the latest browser or are rpepared to and lose the add ons you rely on which are incompatible with latest gen browsers.
They didn't have to do any of this. They made a choice.

If they get away with this without formal protest from forums the size of this one it's only a matter of time before all hosts see that as the way to go. When that happens the current model of free access will be over. Everything will change from that point.

This forum can do something about restoring backwards compatibility and releasing the throttling by making a formal complaint and making it clear they'll be removed as an approved host if they continue to restrict the free service so heavily. The threat to losing so much custom will force the same rethink it has in the past. Choosing not to is making the choice to favour a profiteering company over the forum membership.

You'd have to wonder why that would be the preferred choice of the forum bosses.
Either way those three hosts are all but useless for anyone who isn't a subscription account holder. With universal access now denied on those services it's impossible to defend them as preferred hosts let alone approved hosts if they continue with this policy.

[///M]

K2S in particular appears to block any browser that isn't the very, very latest version. A chrome update came through a couple of days ago which I ignored until it was convenient to shut it down and upgrade. I noticed that while Tez and FB still worked on the one generation older version, K2S stopped immediately. Normal service resumed when I cycled Chrome to update it.

That's pretty extreme demand from K2S blocking every browser except the very latest bleeding edge version!

I will say this though, banning K2S,FB,Tez entirely, will likely just lead to an all-Filejoker forum, and since Filejoker is the worst host by far for annoying, constantly changing captchas, IP blocking, non-resumable, throttled speeds and delay wait times between downloads, you should probably be careful about what you're wishing for.

[///M]

Originally Posted by BooBootheBear

Now they have throttled back even further from 50kbs to 30kbs. That makes them pointless.

Confirmed. 30kB/s is all I'm getting now too. Bigger downloads can take over 48hrs to complete now. The only workaround is to download 15+ files simultaneously.

Edit: Hahaha, K2S is even blocked now on the very latest version of chrome! I just updated it to the latest possible version available to me from Google and K2S still won't load on it! K2S is effectively dead. May as well just ban it now.