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Karmafan · 16th November 2011, 01:13

Ya I do agree both companies had booking that worked and some that was horrible. I got a question for you all...

What is the stupidest booking decision/plotline you ever saw in WWE or WCW? For me I always hated the Kane/Katie Vick angle.

Colin_Work · 16th November 2011, 02:26

The Katie Vick storyline was absolutely horrendous. I remember when it was happening just thinking to myself "Is this really happening?"..hahaha. That takes the cake for me for WWE for sure. As far as WCW, David Arquette as World Champion is high up on the list. Or when they cut Ric Flair's hair and booked referee Charles Robinson as Little Natch. Mortis and Glacier...bad, bad characters as well as Renegade. Not saying all the characters is WWE have all been winners, Dr. Issac Yankem DDS..really?...but WCW has had some bad ones...hahaha

16th November 2011, 02:47

Really hard to top The Katie Vick ''angle''

Hmmm

the kaientai (sp) val venis and john wayne something angle was pretty stupid. when kaientai supposedly cut val's valbowski off . choppe choppe your pee pee LOL . aww man.

I know there have been many other stupid angles but any time I think of this one I just say to people '' I told you not everything in the attitude era was great''

You Tube

I know this one was pretty sick too but I found it hilarious . Boss man steals big show's dad.

Big Boss Man steal's Big Show's daddy. - YouTube

last but not least . Fake Razor Ramon and Diesel. Normally this would be curtains for a career but fake Diesel would go on and become a star as the big red machine kane. No idea what happened to fake Razor. I guess He wasn't so lucky.

Here is the debut of fake Razor. Can't find the debut of fake Diesel.

RAW 9-23-96 debut of Fake Razor RAMON - YouTube

burtog · 16th November 2011, 06:16

If Bischoff & Fusient had been allowed to buy WCW and air it on TBS/TNT, I think they could have done some decent business ... if they'd kept the focus on Booker T, Lance Storm, Sean O'Haire, Scott Steiner, and some of the other younger guys instead of Hogan, Nash, DDP, etc.

I always had a wish that someone had bought both WCW and ECW (which went out of business at nearly the same time) and bundled the talent together. Imagine adding RVD, Rhino, Tajiri & Mikey Whipwreck, Little Guido, Doring/Roadkill, and Super Crazy to the remaining WCW talent? It'd have been great.

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Originally Posted by FREAKZILLA

I liked wcw--It would be cool if Vince had bought it and left it as it was. I know its competion but then he could of had 2 shows on 2 networks that would bring him more money. WCW had some cool PPV and a very different style in the wrestling business. Keep WCW as one brand and wwe as another.

I think it's what they wanted to do and what became Smackdown would have been a WCW brand, but when the "WCW match" between Booker T & Bagwell was crapped on so badly by the WWE audience, they panicked and changed their plans.

It'd have been more likely to succeed if they'd hired all of the WCW talent, and had Flair/Mysterio/Steiner/Goldberg to work with along with the talent that they had.

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Originally Posted by Karmafan

Ya I do agree both companies had booking that worked and some that was horrible. I got a question for you all...

What is the stupidest booking decision/plotline you ever saw in WWE or WCW? For me I always hated the Kane/Katie Vick angle.

Depending on your definition of "stupidest" - in terms of the worst decision, it would easily be the Invasion angle, and how badly they botched it. People had fantasized about WWF vs. WCW forever and they couldn't make it work. That would have changed the industry if they'd done it right.

In terms of "stupidest" as being the most brain-numbingly stupid, it'd be that angle in WCW when Hogan could see Warrior in the mirror like a mirage. Except that we, the audience, could see him, too, but Bischoff (in the room) could not.

16th November 2011, 10:46

the amount of money left on the table . I still can't believe it .

FREAKZILLA · 16th November 2011, 23:25

I may be wrong but I thought the fake Diesel was played by Kane

Another Dumb story was the Giant Gonzalez
in the bigfoot outfit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_G...%28wrestler%29

FREAKZILLA · 16th November 2011, 23:29

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You forgot DDP .

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But dont forget Kimberly Page--she was fucking hot

17th November 2011, 00:26

Yeah, mate

Kane was the fake Diesel. Amazing how after so many false starts he finally was in the right place at the right time to become Kane. Great gimmick in the end.

and amen on Kimberly Page.

* edit *

seems that Master bumping machine Ziggler is on double duty again at Survivor Series. He will be defending his united states title against John Morrison and is also in the elimination match. I'm expecting him to retain because Morrison's contract is up but then you never know do you . He might have signed an extension and could get the win . We shall find out on Sunday .

17th November 2011, 18:00

one thing I did enjoy this week . no bagger men for Cody and no mask . He came out on Raw and looked like a million bucks with the toned body .

sweet.

burtog · 18th November 2011, 03:07

I'm pretty sure that Morrison resigned (and/or broke up with Melina) and is out of the doghouse now. That's why he got the win the other night and is getting a title shot now. I'd be Ok with Ziggler losing the belt, but ONLY if he is going to be moving up the card to the world title scene. Otherwise, him losing his belt is dumb.

I don't know if I think of Rhodes as being ready for a real serious push. I don't think of him on Orton's level yet, so it might be early for him to lose the mask IMHO. I kind of liked his gimmick, it was like a comic book villain come to life. I think they could have done more with it, and then 'unmasked' him when it was time to move him up.

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Alan Kellerman Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah, mate Kane was the fake Diesel. Amazing how after so many false starts he finally was in the right place at the right time to become Kane. Great gimmick in the end. and amen on Kimberly Page. * edit * seems that Master bumping machine Ziggler is on double duty again at Survivor Series. He will be defending his united states title against John Morrison and is also in the elimination match. I'm expecting him to retain because Morrison's contract is up but then you never know do you . He might have signed an extension and could get the win . We shall find out on Sunday . Last edited by Alan Kellerman; 17th November 2011 at 01:13. Reason: New information

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Karmafan Who Cut The Cheese? Beyond Redemption Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 11,387 Thanks: 39,606 Thanked 38,112 Times in 9,853 Posts	Ya I do agree both companies had booking that worked and some that was horrible. I got a question for you all... What is the stupidest booking decision/plotline you ever saw in WWE or WCW? For me I always hated the Kane/Katie Vick angle.

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Colin_Work Registered User Addicted Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 284 Thanks: 106 Thanked 563 Times in 261 Posts	The Katie Vick storyline was absolutely horrendous. I remember when it was happening just thinking to myself "Is this really happening?"..hahaha. That takes the cake for me for WWE for sure. As far as WCW, David Arquette as World Champion is high up on the list. Or when they cut Ric Flair's hair and booked referee Charles Robinson as Little Natch. Mortis and Glacier...bad, bad characters as well as Renegade. Not saying all the characters is WWE have all been winners, Dr. Issac Yankem DDS..really?...but WCW has had some bad ones...hahaha

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Alan Kellerman Guest Posts: n/a	one thing I did enjoy this week . no bagger men for Cody and no mask . He came out on Raw and looked like a million bucks with the toned body . sweet.

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burtog Registered User Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Suburbia Posts: 642 Thanks: 2,467 Thanked 1,518 Times in 579 Posts	I'm pretty sure that Morrison resigned (and/or broke up with Melina) and is out of the doghouse now. That's why he got the win the other night and is getting a title shot now. I'd be Ok with Ziggler losing the belt, but ONLY if he is going to be moving up the card to the world title scene. Otherwise, him losing his belt is dumb. I don't know if I think of Rhodes as being ready for a real serious push. I don't think of him on Orton's level yet, so it might be early for him to lose the mask IMHO. I kind of liked his gimmick, it was like a comic book villain come to life. I think they could have done more with it, and then 'unmasked' him when it was time to move him up.