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Old 9th May 2020, 18:02   #2011
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I have read those rumours, too, also about Sharon Stone and Catherine Zeta Jones. It might be possible,but it still amazes me that - especially in the day and age of social media - such thing as UTR escorting could even exist. Either the clients are really discrete or scared shitless to spill the beans - or I simply do not follow the right people/news to learn about the insides of the business.

For 70s/80s hollywood stars and starlets I am pretty sure that most were hookers of some kind, since there are stories that basically every decently attractive woman in the LA area was available at one of the "Showtime-Lakers-Parties".
Living "in the day and age of social media" is the main reason why utr escorting exist. Everything that appears on web virtually can't be removed so a lot of non professional or temporary sex workers stay utr and don't advertise to avoid a permanent label. An utr list is not state secret, is an unwritten agreement between an agency or an escort who want protect their privacy and a client who want protect his privacy too, basically a mutual understanding.
Who is on utr and vip list? Some pornstars, Playboy and Penthouse girls, IG models, D list actresses, C list celebrities (reality stars, commercial models) and a lot of very good looking "aspiring something".

There are a lot of rumors and speculations about hollywood stars and supermodels but, for my experience, are almost always axaggerated or totally fictional. These girls make millions a year and often can make hundreds of thousands with a few IG posts or just a personal appearance so, how much money it take to risk career and reputation? Probably a sum nobody will pay so, if demand and supply don't match, a market don't even exist.
Anyway, i know for a fact, there are a few international events (film festival, F1 grand prix etc) where, particularly during related exclusive parties, something can be arranged even with A list celebrities, but payment currency is a film role, a part in a tv show, a big advertising campaign, or something career related, not money.
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Escorting isn't all fun, games, and money:


Years ago Lola Taylor was escorting and the client(s) went to rape and kill her. She had to jump out the window and broke her leg to escape from the situation.

Supposedly busty Clary was escorting with 3 other girls and a rich Russian Mobsters son beat one of the 4 girls to death and thats why Clary quit porn and disappeared.

Many years ago porn star Charli Waters was escorting and a john killed and decapitated her.
No doubt that escorting can be dangerous business just like porn. For every instance you cited with the escorts you could also cite instances of porn stars be harmed by their porn star boyfriends. Porn and escorting are just the other side of the same coin. Women fuck men for money. Some do it on video and others in the privacy of a room.
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Please tell your story about Ivana Sugar and Sandra Luberc.
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Ivana Sugar is a great souvenir. I met her UTR
missed this post. what's UTR?
p.s. found the answer. Pardon me pls)
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i partake in the hobby with some regular escorts and some porn girls. my porn experiences have mainly been US girls and very few euros. most of my euro favs don't escort and i only book the ones at the top of my fav list because resources are finite lol. i've used the well known agencies and some are easier to work with than others. some girls i've gotten to directly through p411 (look it up if you don't know what that is). i've also had some at conventions like exxxotica or avn. i've never done dm's because it's a long shot and there are some girls who will blow you up for it. who needs the drama lol

a note about ads on eros or when they post "meet me" with dates and contact info on socials: almost all of those will go to their agency booker. not a big deal but just don't assume you're talking to them. you're more likely to be talking to them if it's p411.

as for in person, i never bring it up to them or even really mean to. besides, a lack of discretion will always end badly. many who escort will just say it if you can go a minute into the convo without creeping them out. for example, christiana cinn groped me, said she's also a "professional gf," and gave me her contact info when i innocently asked her if she was doing anything else besides the convention while she was in the city. natalia starr told me she was available after taking a pic with me. natasha too. i think in both cases i just said something like "thanks you've been so nice maybe i'll see you later." that's happens more often than you'd think lol.

as for agencies, note of caution here stay away from tlc for a while. the lady who works as the booker and derek the LA direct agent that was feeding her girls were busted earlier this year and i believe the case is still pending. it had to do with derek freezing out girls for studio work unless they agreed to escort. anyone who's ever met derek for 10 seconds will absolutely believe he's as big of a sleaze as the case says. clients were not targeted or mentioned in the case. they had a nice roster but the booker was extremely difficult to work with.

it's hilariously apparent who runs porn companions (you'll notice she's always the first pic in the "featured" section lol). she's nuts and a handful but gets the job done as long as you stay on her good side. kelly wells runs haetera. super nice but small roster.

a guy named keith runs the formerly named perfection models. his rates are some of the highest. blair williams, kendra lust, and a few others are with him. blair's old agency was one of the best to work with but keith poached her. he'll list a bunch more who aren't but he uses the ad for a bait and switch or for blackmail material fishing. his ads are distinctive because he words them the same way and always has a "coming soon" part at the end and with the same phone number. stay away. he's a first class creep and a blackmailer to boot. he's basically a movie character who wants to be the girls' daddy (he'll say daddy too bleh). google him and the agency and you'll find the stories. if you don't believe it, try emailing or texting for a booking from a burner and see how hostile he is from the jump.
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for example, christiana cinn groped me, said she's also a "professional gf," and gave me her contact info when i innocently asked her if she was doing anything else besides the convention while she was in the city.
So? How was she?
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it's hilariously apparent who runs porn companions (you'll notice she's always the first pic in the "featured" section lol). she's nuts and a handful but gets the job done as long as you stay on her good side. kelly wells runs haetera. super nice but small roster.
Ha ha.. I would never guess.

I found TLC was not really willing to cooperate, while PC suggested only Anna Fox as an option with anal. Hetaera send in a list of pornstars I never heard of...
BTW, was despirately looking for Madison Ivy or Marley Brinx, but no luck.
Nicole Aniston was with PC but jumped off in the mid of July or so.
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Trinity St. Claire will book herself with clients and show up instead of the girl you requested. She will say so and so is unavailable so I'm taking her place. She often does the same thing and shows up with the girl you requested.
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porn girls appear and disappear from the escort scene faster than anything so gotta get them while they're there. all it takes is one creep to ruin it for the rest of us. paige owens posted a long story about how she was attacked during a private and afaik she stopped doing it altogether after that.

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Ha ha.. I would never guess.

I found TLC was not really willing to cooperate, while PC suggested only Anna Fox as an option with anal. Hetaera send in a list of pornstars I never heard of...
BTW, was despirately looking for Madison Ivy or Marley Brinx, but no luck.
Nicole Aniston was with PC but jumped off in the mid of July or so.
sadly many girls who do anal on camera won't do it for privates, or you have to "earn" the privilege. marley brinx was on tlc's list but like i said before i'd steer clear of them right now. you don't want to be thrown under the bus as tlc's working through legal troubles.

there's kind of a sad negative correlation between quality of booker and quality of roster. the ones that are organized and easy to work with are sadly also the ones with the smallest or least interesting rosters. if kelly ran a lineup like any of the other's she'd be rolling in it. pam peaks also has a mostly uninspiring roster but is easy to book with.

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Trinity St. Claire will book herself with clients and show up instead of the girl you requested. She will say so and so is unavailable so I'm taking her place. She often does the same thing and shows up with the girl you requested.
i saw that on mike south as well, but truthfully i've never had that problem with pc. i've had bait and switch issues with perfection. my problems with pc mainly boil down to her obvious poor relationship and communication with the girls. for example, she likes controlling their schedules and keeping them in the dark until day of, which results in delays, availability issues (in requested services or time), or drama. she'll just spring it on them last minute "oh btw client wants anal" which never ends well. tlc booker does that too.
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