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Soon2BFit · 9th September 2018, 02:19

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Originally Posted by alexora

I am wondering if she was drunk or on drugs: mistaking one's own home for another isn't something that one would expect from an individual who has been trained to use their powers of perception and observation...

Makes you wonder. Also are there apartment #'s on the doors? If so you would think if sober she would have noticed that or that the guy would have pointed that out to her.

alexora · 9th September 2018, 02:51

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Originally Posted by Soon2BFit

Makes you wonder. Also are there apartment #'s on the doors? If so you would think if sober she would have noticed that or that the guy would have pointed that out to her.

I live in a skyscraper that contains 100s of apartments.

During my 30 year residency, I have never mistaken another dwelling for my own...

Namcot · 9th September 2018, 03:05

Code:

http://heavy.com/news/2018/09/amber-guyger/

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http://dallasnews.com/news/dallas-police/2018/09/08/dallas-officer-shot-man-apartment-involved-2017-shooting-suspect

And according to this screenshot from Instagram, someone claims she knew the guy she shot and killed: this photo is supposed to be from his social media account and that is supposedly her in the photo.

SadVarant · 9th September 2018, 06:05

So the whole wrong house thing is clearly a lie? Doesn't look good on her behalf if that is the case. I figured something was fishy, you'd have to be the dumbest officer in existence to make such a foolish error. There might be some malicious intent involved here that is trying to be covered up as a stupid, tragic mistake. Because if not, wouldn't the police just come out and say that an officer shot a man being aggressive, or in the middle of a crime? Let's hope these Rangers can really dig in and get to the bottom of this.

rbn · 9th September 2018, 06:41

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Originally Posted by SadVarant

So the whole wrong house thing is clearly a lie? Doesn't look good on her behalf if that is the case. I figured something was fishy, you'd have to be the dumbest officer in existence to make such a foolish error. There might be some malicious intent involved here that is trying to be covered up as a stupid, tragic mistake. Because if not, wouldn't the police just come out and say that an officer shot a man being aggressive, or in the middle of a crime? Let's hope these Rangers can really dig in and get to the bottom of this.

You fell for the news ... I mean, the lies again, huh

The News should be reBranded The Speculations

This is a tragic event no matter what the truth is.

chaha · 9th September 2018, 07:39

Amber Guyger

"A Dallas police officer, who spoke with NBC 5 under the condition of anonymity, said Guyger was assigned to the department's elite Crime Response Team and had just finished a 14-hour shift serving warrants in high-crime areas. When she arrived home, she took the elevator to a floor that was not hers. She then went to what she thought was her door, put the key in and struggled with the lock. Guyger then put down several things she was holding and continued to fight with the key when the resident swung open the door and startled her. Guyger believed Jean, who was wearing only underwear, was an intruder and shot him with her service weapon. It wasn't until police and rescue units began arriving that she realized she was not at her apartment. Once realizing her deadly mistake, she became emotional and fully cooperated with officers, including offering to provide blood samples."

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http://nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Officer-Fatally-Shoots-Man-492675981.html

Namcot · 9th September 2018, 07:44

This story just getting weirder and weirder!

alexora · 9th September 2018, 08:35

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Originally Posted by chaha

Amber Guyger

"A Dallas police officer, who spoke with NBC 5 under the condition of anonymity, said Guyger was assigned to the department's elite Crime Response Team and had just finished a 14-hour shift serving warrants in high-crime areas. When she arrived home, she took the elevator to a floor that was not hers. She then went to what she thought was her door, put the key in and struggled with the lock. Guyger then put down several things she was holding and continued to fight with the key when the resident swung open the door and startled her. Guyger believed Jean, who was wearing only underwear, was an intruder and shot him with her service weapon. It wasn't until police and rescue units began arriving that she realized she was not at her apartment. Once realizing her deadly mistake, she became emotional and fully cooperated with officers, including offering to provide blood samples."

http://nbcdfw.com/news/local/Da...492675981.html

So it would appear that this officer was overworked. But that in itself doesn't explain why she made such a grave error: I still believe that she must have been under the influence of drink or drugs.

Namcot · 9th September 2018, 09:20

I read elsewhere that other residents heard commotion where she was banging on the door and calling out Police, open the door.

There is no way after struggling with the lock and not being able to open it with her key or FOB, she didn't had a moment of realization that is not her apartment.

Surely she would had instinctively look at the apartment number on the door or next to it to see if she is at the correct place.

Furthermore when the guy swung the door open, did she ask who the heck are you or did she just shoot him immediately.

Plus now there are reports that she knew the victim and there are photos on the net of her with the victim, that hasn't been confirmed officially by the law whether she and the victim had past history or knew each other and if it was true - again, she didn't recognize him before she shot him?

SadVarant · 9th September 2018, 10:06

Yeah, calling bullshit on the wrong apartment story. Too many things don't add up, as Namcot noted, and if she was intoxicated then why was she still in uniform/equipped with her firearm? And let's say her story is correct, a 14 hour shift leads to such an idiotic mistake? If that is the case, then my prior comment about police training standards is even more appropriate. There are military personal (I believe police training should be held to a military standard) who have to perform operations all day and all night without sleep and still carry on, without making any such dumb ass mistake.

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SadVarant Babes n' Burnouts Forum Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 1,851 Thanks: 9,540 Thanked 7,681 Times in 1,670 Posts	So the whole wrong house thing is clearly a lie? Doesn't look good on her behalf if that is the case. I figured something was fishy, you'd have to be the dumbest officer in existence to make such a foolish error. There might be some malicious intent involved here that is trying to be covered up as a stupid, tragic mistake. Because if not, wouldn't the police just come out and say that an officer shot a man being aggressive, or in the middle of a crime? Let's hope these Rangers can really dig in and get to the bottom of this. __________________

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chaha Junior Member Novice Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 82 Thanks: 3,790 Thanked 227 Times in 65 Posts	Amber Guyger "A Dallas police officer, who spoke with NBC 5 under the condition of anonymity, said Guyger was assigned to the department's elite Crime Response Team and had just finished a 14-hour shift serving warrants in high-crime areas. When she arrived home, she took the elevator to a floor that was not hers. She then went to what she thought was her door, put the key in and struggled with the lock. Guyger then put down several things she was holding and continued to fight with the key when the resident swung open the door and startled her. Guyger believed Jean, who was wearing only underwear, was an intruder and shot him with her service weapon. It wasn't until police and rescue units began arriving that she realized she was not at her apartment. Once realizing her deadly mistake, she became emotional and fully cooperated with officers, including offering to provide blood samples." Code: http://nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Officer-Fatally-Shoots-Man-492675981.html Last edited by DoctorNo; 9th September 2018 at 18:21.

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SadVarant Babes n' Burnouts Forum Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 1,851 Thanks: 9,540 Thanked 7,681 Times in 1,670 Posts	Yeah, calling bullshit on the wrong apartment story. Too many things don't add up, as Namcot noted, and if she was intoxicated then why was she still in uniform/equipped with her firearm? And let's say her story is correct, a 14 hour shift leads to such an idiotic mistake? If that is the case, then my prior comment about police training standards is even more appropriate. There are military personal (I believe police training should be held to a military standard) who have to perform operations all day and all night without sleep and still carry on, without making any such dumb ass mistake. __________________

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Namcot Registered User Beyond Redemption Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 19,796 Thanks: 9,963 Thanked 86,400 Times in 16,165 Posts	This story just getting weirder and weirder!

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Namcot Registered User Beyond Redemption Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 19,796 Thanks: 9,963 Thanked 86,400 Times in 16,165 Posts	I read elsewhere that other residents heard commotion where she was banging on the door and calling out Police, open the door. There is no way after struggling with the lock and not being able to open it with her key or FOB, she didn't had a moment of realization that is not her apartment. Surely she would had instinctively look at the apartment number on the door or next to it to see if she is at the correct place. Furthermore when the guy swung the door open, did she ask who the heck are you or did she just shoot him immediately. Plus now there are reports that she knew the victim and there are photos on the net of her with the victim, that hasn't been confirmed officially by the law whether she and the victim had past history or knew each other and if it was true - again, she didn't recognize him before she shot him?