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Old 29th October 2010, 19:22   #11
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backup, backup, backup.....ebbie is right on this one.
Unless you are a graduate of MIT you are gonna end up paying someone to sift through the mess and you don't want a boyscout finding your objectionable downloads. Invest in multiple portable hard-drives and backup, backup, backup your important stuff.
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btw: I have 3 Seagate portable hard-drives that are not at all perfect but I initiated them into my old XP and they still work after a year of sheer abuse and they now work on my Windows7
I'm in the market for another drive for all my tranny porn....can anyone suggest a good 2.5 to 3 GB PHD for windows 7 by seagate? Or is Western Digital the way to go and I've been blinded by seagate luck?
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The reason you use a plastic bag is because freezers are full of condensation. Condensed water around electronics = BAD. So you seal it up otherwise it's like driving a taoster through a carwash.

Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but if the drive is fubar what do you have to lose?
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backup, backup, backup.....ebbie is right on this one.
Seconded.

I've had good results with a util called Handy Recovery. IIRC, it's about $20.
Haven't had to use it for a while. Because now I have backups.

Hard disk is cheap, have 2 or 3 around. If you're anal (like me) have 2 shadow copies live and 1 offsite.
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I use mainly Maxtor [now owned by Seagate I think] portable drives both 3.5 and 2.5 and they take an utter kicking. In 6 years only one has failed and the hardware and casing is still perfect. I use that now as a dock. This is becoming my favourite way of using hard drives now. I also have a USB2 dock that takes IDE and SATA drives also. It allows me to buy drives in bulk from suppliers and plug and play as I need. For the amount of media work I do this is proving to be superb. I have 2 drives I never touch and on each of these is a ghost image of all my machines' clean installed C drives and backups of all my software installation files. In the event of a failure they are my safety net Everything else is backed up onto seperate hard drives and USB sticks. Sounds a bit anal, but I do alot of work on my computers and I have to know that if one goes I can be back up and running in an hour or so.

I have a couple of Lacie firewire drives that I use on my video editing suite as backup to the big old Avid bricks and they are fast and reliable too.

We've come a long way from the old days when hard discs crocked every five minutes. Even the cheap ones are pretty reliable now.

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backup, backup, backup.....ebbie is right on this one.
Unless you are a graduate of MIT you are gonna end up paying someone to sift through the mess and you don't want a boyscout finding your objectionable downloads. Invest in multiple portable hard-drives and backup, backup, backup your important stuff.
"from my experience.....computerized objects that start clicking is always a bad, bad sign..." - brosaph
btw: I have 3 Seagate portable hard-drives that are not at all perfect but I initiated them into my old XP and they still work after a year of sheer abuse and they now work on my Windows7
I'm in the market for another drive for all my tranny porn....can anyone suggest a good 2.5 to 3 GB PHD for windows 7 by seagate? Or is Western Digital the way to go and I've been blinded by seagate luck?
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I use mainly Maxtor [now owned by Seagate I think] portable drives both 3.5 and 2.5 and they take an utter kicking. In 6 years
We've come a long way from the old days when hard discs crocked every five minutes. Even the cheap ones are pretty reliable now.
Maxtor?? o_O uh think I'll stay far far far away. 6 years 3 dead. Failure rate way too high for me. Hitachi supposedly is better, but your the first Maxtor fan I've ever bumped into. It's mainly a joke to everyone else and Seagate belittled themselves by buying the company. I had my mark on Fujitsu but I think Toshiba bought them out. Samsung's use the Lacie firmware. Those are rocking. Seagates I use though because of the dumb warranty but they always have a head crash at some point.
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The reason you use a plastic bag is because freezers are full of condensation. Condensed water around electronics = BAD. So you seal it up otherwise it's like driving a taoster through a carwash.

Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but if the drive is fubar what do you have to lose?
makes sense to me, your the first one to ever say so. Blackberry and Seagate though , simply stick the drive solid in the freezer. I always thought the same thing.
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On the contrary, not only did Maxtor have a large marketshare, their hardware stabilityilty and speed, reliab was way beyond Seagate. They were acquired because Seagate needed the tech and wanted the market. That's another reason why the brand hasn't been killed.

Most of the people who stayed away from Maxtor drives did so from snob value. A few message board rumours that spread. This guy says so it must be true. Truth is I have seen far more Hitachi, Seagate and Fujitsu drives fail than Maxtor. I cane my drives. I need strong reliable workhorses and have no time for anything likely to fail that will cost me time and money.


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Maxtor?? o_O uh think I'll stay far far far away. 6 years 3 dead. Failure rate way too high for me. Hitachi supposedly is better, but your the first Maxtor fan I've ever bumped into. It's mainly a joke to everyone else and Seagate belittled themselves by buying the company. I had my mark on Fujitsu but I think Toshiba bought them out. Samsung's use the Lacie firmware. Those are rocking. Seagates I use though because of the dumb warranty but they always have a head crash at some point.
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Bear in mind that manufacturer websites are written by geeks not techs.
Common sense is a very valuable tool.

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makes sense to me, your the first one to ever say so. Blackberry and Seagate though , simply stick the drive solid in the freezer. I always thought the same thing.
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true however tech supports should be techs and not nuts. and most are nuts. Especially the idiots who want to remote control your computer. pretty much tell them to F off when they want to do that. Lexmark did that to my dads computer. He really needs to reinstall that. But keeps refusing. He's the same one who stuck the blackberry 8500 curve in the freezer. because they told him to do it. X_X at the very least the battery should have been removed.. although there is no harm in storing batteries in a freezer, most I've found are really in bags.
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On the contrary, not only did Maxtor have a large marketshare, their hardware stabilityilty and speed, reliab was way beyond Seagate. They were acquired because Seagate needed the tech and wanted the market. That's another reason why the brand hasn't been killed.

Most of the people who stayed away from Maxtor drives did so from snob value. A few message board rumours that spread. This guy says so it must be true. Truth is I have seen far more Hitachi, Seagate and Fujitsu drives fail than Maxtor. I cane my drives. I need strong reliable workhorses and have no time for anything likely to fail that will cost me time and money.
every maxtor I've ever had failed. were slow and noisy to begin with. bout as bad as Quantum. However I'm willing for some give with Hitachi. I had an IBM Deathstar. Oh did I find that out quick. Decided to nail one with a hammer.. because hard drives are made with metal platters. Oh no.. I got sand. Glass platters. o_O stupid IBM. Alienware shoulda waited for the Seagate. Last time I bought a pre built computer. I build my own. Last longer. (except for the laptops) although at least with Dell's they are very easy to rebuild or refurbish.
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