NFL this week

[xkiller]

New Bucs uni??

Looks like garbage...The new new helmet would have worked with the old unis but this looks like something out of a bad football movie...those calculator looking numbers..

[sports_fan39]

yea i would not mind getting Robinson or Matthews at 2 , but i have a small feeling teams (Browns, Vikings MIGHT trade up) which would give us extra picks if they want Maniel or Teddy

[seathestars]

49ers now being in the same situation the Ravens were in last year. Pay a below average passer (yet above average runner) plenty of money. Not sure if he is there quite yet or ever will be. But if Romo, Cutler and Flacco get it, you can make a point, Kaep deserves it too.

But he still is just a bad passer by nfl standards Great gun, definately, natural passer. Never will be. Need to see more consistency. Will keep an eye on how they handle it.

[Ness7891]

Originally Posted by seathestars

49ers now being in the same situation the Ravens were in last year. Pay a below average passer (yet above average runner) plenty of money. Not sure if he is there quite yet or ever will be. But if Romo, Cutler and Flacco get it, you can make a point, Kaep deserves it too.

But he still is just a bad passer by nfl standards Great gun, definately, natural passer. Never will be. Need to see more consistency. Will keep an eye on how they handle it.

Da hell? Kaepernick is not a below average passer. And he's not "bad" by NFL standards. That's ridiculous. It sounds like you're making him out to be Michael Vick during his prime, who was not a good passer. What is "average" to you? This should be good. Let me pull up a chair.

[DemonicGeek]

Originally Posted by xkiller

New Bucs uni??

Looks like garbage...The new new helmet would have worked with the old unis but this looks like something out of a bad football movie...those calculator looking numbers..

I dunno...I think they look fine.

[sports_fan39]

he deserves to get paid, but 49ers will pay overdue to Romo, Flacco getting big deals

[seathestars]

Originally Posted by Ness7891

Da hell? Kaepernick is not a below average passer. And he's not "bad" by NFL standards. That's ridiculous. It sounds like you're making him out to be Michael Vick during his prime, who was not a good passer. What is "average" to you? This should be good. Let me pull up a chair.

Only considering his passing skills. And they don´t include his arm strength.
Below 60% Completion %. Missed more open throws than any other QB this year. Worst QB rating among qualifiers when under pressure. Most drops of possible INTs by the opponents D. Not a good 2nd read QB either. Cannot make all the throws. Just imagine he had the legs of Peyton or Brady. His feet save his stats and performance.

Just watch tape and you´ll find at least 12-16 better passers. Purely passing. Kaep is a great athlete and I like his potential, he can do a lot and make a lot happen but from a pure passing standpoint, he is not good enough for 18m. He was even only average in college.

[xkiller]

Originally Posted by seathestars

Only considering his passing skills. And they don´t include his arm strength.
Below 60% Completion %. Missed more open throws than any other QB this year. Worst QB rating among qualifiers when under pressure. Most drops of possible INTs by the opponents D. Not a good 2nd read QB either. Cannot make all the throws. Just imagine he had the legs of Peyton or Brady. His feet save his stats and performance.

Just watch tape and you´ll find at least 12-16 better passers. Purely passing. Kaep is a great athlete and I like his potential, he can do a lot and make a lot happen but from a pure passing standpoint, he is not good enough for 18m. He was even only average in college.

I assume you have stats to back up these statements..

Originally Posted by xkiller

I assume you have stats to back up these statements..

Probably not, but he's a Seahawks fan so he's just trying to bust our balls.

[Ness7891]

Originally Posted by seathestars

Only considering his passing skills. And they don´t include his arm strength.
Below 60% Completion %. Missed more open throws than any other QB this year. Worst QB rating among qualifiers when under pressure. Most drops of possible INTs by the opponents D. Not a good 2nd read QB either. Cannot make all the throws. Just imagine he had the legs of Peyton or Brady. His feet save his stats and performance.

Just watch tape and you´ll find at least 12-16 better passers. Purely passing. Kaep is a great athlete and I like his potential, he can do a lot and make a lot happen but from a pure passing standpoint, he is not good enough for 18m. He was even only average in college.

He had over 60% the previous season. And there are tons of quarterbacks who have had over 60% that have been horrible. And I would love to see where you acquired your statistics for QB rating when under pressure, most drops of possible INT by defenses, and the context of which he reads his receivers on any given play. Context. That is the most important aspect of everything. I could give you a ton of other cited statistics that say he is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. "Cannot make all the throws". According to who? You? I've already watched all of his games at least twice. He's not the best quarterback in the NFL, but he's a top ten quarterback. Just as a passer. The funny thing is that he's not even in an offense that suits his strengths. Harbaugh is a run-first type of philosophy. We had the least amount of passing attempts in the NFL last season.