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Rick Sanchez · 5th November 2021, 02:26

Nia's finally gone. Good riddance.

Sucks they botched Keith Lee and Karrion Kross, and that both of them and Scarlett are gone, though.

Lonewolf · 5th November 2021, 02:59

Some thoughts...

Nia - At least the WWE will be a safer place to work. She should've been sent back to the development center for a couple months. Hey, if Doudrop can get through a match without killing someone, it can be done! Surprised she actually got cut, seeing as how she's The Rock's cousin.

Karrion - Not like he was introduced to the WWE properly, jobbing to a mid-carder in under two minutes in his debut. Even though he's a Vince-type wrestler (big, strong, and can't work), surprising to see them throw in the towel so soon, especially with Scarlett on the cusp of debuting.

Keith/Mia - Figures they couldn't get Keith over... he has a brain! Seriously though, his promos were way too intelligently delivered; basically, he needed to dumb down to get over, and he just couldn't do that. His fiancee, Mia, is a good a female wrestler as there is out there... definitely coach material. I sense she'll return at some point.

Eva Marie - Here we go again... never got a chance the second time around... nor the first time, really...

Ember Moon - After she jobbed the NXT title, she just kinda disappeared, so no real surprise there.

Love Buzz · 5th November 2021, 14:14

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MasterBates · 5th November 2021, 14:23

Gran Metallik & Lince Dorado are already in AEW didnt take them long they use new names but the crowd was chanting lucha Lucha...what, B-Fab aint in Shits Slow anymore?

Lonewolf · 5th November 2021, 16:03

Now, word is breaking this morning that some of the talent released yesterday may have been released due to their COVID status, mainly not being vaccinated.

Here is the story which is fueling the speculation:

Code:

http://nypost.com/2021/11/04/keith-lee-karrion-kross-nia-jax-among-surprise-wwe-releases/amp/

talltrekkie · 5th November 2021, 22:02

Nia has responded to that claiming she has been on a mental health break, asked for more time when they had her scheduled back in a couple weeks and next she heard was the release. She says vaccination status wasn't a part of it, but since she didn't say she is vaccinated, the safe guess is she isn't.

In any case, there's no good time to release a bunch of people. But doing it mere hours after a quarterly earnings call where you increase expectations for the full year/next quarter is not a great look. And it sucks that it's like a week after the ROH news so there's a bit less of a landing place for people.

Lonewolf · 6th November 2021, 16:58

Another possible explanation for the releases, published by wrestlingrumors.net this morning:

Quote:

According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, age may have played a factor in some of the WWE’s releases. The company is looking to bring in physically larger and younger wrestlers with a more legitimate athletic background. WWE wants to have more wrestlers in their twenties on its television shows, especially women. As a result, a new hiring directive suggests that any new women hired be twenty five years old or younger.

Rick Sanchez · 6th November 2021, 17:12

Stories have come out about Keith Lee being "difficult to work with" just like stories about Bray having "attitude problems" came out in the last few days.

Interesting that so many WWE Superstars have "attitude problems" or "are difficult to work with" once they get released. Imagine working for a promotion where everything from the attire you wear to the words you speak to the matches you wrestle are micromanaged down to the smallest detail, where your entire career trajectory is at the mercy of an insane septuagenarian lunatic and his long-time asskissing cronies, and where you can be fired at any time for any reason up to and including "budget cuts" while said promotion makes record profits. Could such a working environment perhaps be a bit toxic?

Nah. Couldn't be.

talltrekkie · 7th November 2021, 03:00

I was thinking yesterday about how Survivor Series is in like 3 weeks(actually 2) and there's literally ZERO mention of it on TV.

In related news, they announced the full teams of the Survivor Series matches on twitter today. Both teams for both the men's and women's matches, all 20 people. Just announced in one long twitter thread.

No good old qualifying matches, no force some random women to qualify while the rest of her team is just appointed because they only have like 7 women on that show, no new matches to break things up, none of it.

They couldn't even be arsed to give us the same stupid matches again under the guise of a qualifying match!

Love Buzz · 7th November 2021, 17:04

Investors whine, Vince tells Khan the conditions, Khan makes a list, Vince picks, Laryngitis tells them. I believe it's as simple as that.

If Roman wasn't vaxed you think they let him go? Pfft. Fat chance.

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Rick Sanchez Registered User Clinically Insane Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Earth C-137 Posts: 2,136 Thanks: 4,342 Thanked 6,454 Times in 1,611 Posts	Nia's finally gone. Good riddance. Sucks they botched Keith Lee and Karrion Kross, and that both of them and Scarlett are gone, though. __________________ "Weddings are basically funerals with cake." July 17, 1975 - September 1, 2021. Dark Humor Enthusiast

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Lonewolf Martha!!! Postaholic Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7,218 Thanks: 4,505 Thanked 27,160 Times in 5,732 Posts	Some thoughts... Nia - At least the WWE will be a safer place to work. She should've been sent back to the development center for a couple months. Hey, if Doudrop can get through a match without killing someone, it can be done! Surprised she actually got cut, seeing as how she's The Rock's cousin. Karrion - Not like he was introduced to the WWE properly, jobbing to a mid-carder in under two minutes in his debut. Even though he's a Vince-type wrestler (big, strong, and can't work), surprising to see them throw in the towel so soon, especially with Scarlett on the cusp of debuting. Keith/Mia - Figures they couldn't get Keith over... he has a brain! Seriously though, his promos were way too intelligently delivered; basically, he needed to dumb down to get over, and he just couldn't do that. His fiancee, Mia, is a good a female wrestler as there is out there... definitely coach material. I sense she'll return at some point. Eva Marie - Here we go again... never got a chance the second time around... nor the first time, really... Ember Moon - After she jobbed the NXT title, she just kinda disappeared, so no real surprise there. __________________ (signature expertly crafted by cylnz)

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MasterBates We all need something to live for... Forum Lord Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Greatness from Small Beginnings Posts: 1,235 Thanks: 352 Thanked 9,725 Times in 922 Posts	Gran Metallik & Lince Dorado are already in AEW didnt take them long they use new names but the crowd was chanting lucha Lucha...what, B-Fab aint in Shits Slow anymore? __________________

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Lonewolf Martha!!! Postaholic Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7,218 Thanks: 4,505 Thanked 27,160 Times in 5,732 Posts	Now, word is breaking this morning that some of the talent released yesterday may have been released due to their COVID status, mainly not being vaccinated. Here is the story which is fueling the speculation: Code: http://nypost.com/2021/11/04/keith-lee-karrion-kross-nia-jax-among-surprise-wwe-releases/amp/ __________________ (signature expertly crafted by cylnz)

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Rick Sanchez Registered User Clinically Insane Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Earth C-137 Posts: 2,136 Thanks: 4,342 Thanked 6,454 Times in 1,611 Posts	Stories have come out about Keith Lee being "difficult to work with" just like stories about Bray having "attitude problems" came out in the last few days. Interesting that so many WWE Superstars have "attitude problems" or "are difficult to work with" once they get released. Imagine working for a promotion where everything from the attire you wear to the words you speak to the matches you wrestle are micromanaged down to the smallest detail, where your entire career trajectory is at the mercy of an insane septuagenarian lunatic and his long-time asskissing cronies, and where you can be fired at any time for any reason up to and including "budget cuts" while said promotion makes record profits. Could such a working environment perhaps be a bit toxic? Nah. Couldn't be. __________________ "Weddings are basically funerals with cake." July 17, 1975 - September 1, 2021. Dark Humor Enthusiast

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talltrekkie Registered User Addicted Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 749 Thanks: 1,529 Thanked 806 Times in 341 Posts	Nia has responded to that claiming she has been on a mental health break, asked for more time when they had her scheduled back in a couple weeks and next she heard was the release. She says vaccination status wasn't a part of it, but since she didn't say she is vaccinated, the safe guess is she isn't. In any case, there's no good time to release a bunch of people. But doing it mere hours after a quarterly earnings call where you increase expectations for the full year/next quarter is not a great look. And it sucks that it's like a week after the ROH news so there's a bit less of a landing place for people.

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talltrekkie Registered User Addicted Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 749 Thanks: 1,529 Thanked 806 Times in 341 Posts	I was thinking yesterday about how Survivor Series is in like 3 weeks(actually 2) and there's literally ZERO mention of it on TV. In related news, they announced the full teams of the Survivor Series matches on twitter today. Both teams for both the men's and women's matches, all 20 people. Just announced in one long twitter thread. No good old qualifying matches, no force some random women to qualify while the rest of her team is just appointed because they only have like 7 women on that show, no new matches to break things up, none of it. They couldn't even be arsed to give us the same stupid matches again under the guise of a qualifying match!

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Love Buzz Marginalised & Ostracised Clinically Insane Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,661 Thanks: 5,723 Thanked 13,028 Times in 2,763 Posts	Investors whine, Vince tells Khan the conditions, Khan makes a list, Vince picks, Laryngitis tells them. I believe it's as simple as that. If Roman wasn't vaxed you think they let him go? Pfft. Fat chance. Last edited by Love Buzz; 7th November 2021 at 17:53.