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talltrekkie · 6th October 2019, 17:26

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Originally Posted by Love Buzz

I don't need to see Valazz beat up the Juicer, that is literally only for MMA fans to care and they would want a legit fight.

Spoiler alert: He already did, in a legit fight, when they were still in fighting shape.

talltrekkie · 7th October 2019, 04:49

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Originally Posted by talltrekkie

Us: This is one of the worst endings of Raw ever.

Smackdown: Hold my beer.

Hell in A Cell: Hold my beer.

Rick Sanchez · 7th October 2019, 04:55

Well, shit.

Love Buzz · 7th October 2019, 12:41

Oh great, so I've yet to watch a fucked finish, yay... At least I know beforehand but not like it'll make it any better. I feel obligated to watch this show simply by the Cell branding but part of me going I'd rather not. Four hours of uselessly booked empiretainment is enough to make ya ill and I already feel shitty enough.

HBM2, did they cut Rock calling Baron a burger king on crack and the STD chant? Think those were probably the most offense parts but it was littered with bits and bobs they could cut so tough to guess.

talltrekkie · 7th October 2019, 15:04

To be honest, I was only half watching most of the PPV. Mainly because I've been forced to watch on my computer since they updated their system and can't use my Chromecast for live events. So it's really easy to open another window and look at whatever. But also because why should I really care about a match if they can't be arsed to tell me about it before the PPV begins?

4 of the matches last night were never announced, 5 if you count the pre-show match(which is getting the 'salty runback' tonight) and another was only announced Saturday, maybe during Smackdown at best. It's almost like they were so focused on their 'season premier' week and trying to hold down AEW's debut that they forgot there was a PPV coming that following Sunday.

HBM2 · 7th October 2019, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Love Buzz

HBM2, did they cut Rock calling Baron a burger king on crack and the STD chant? Think those were probably the most offense parts but it was littered with bits and bobs they could cut so tough to guess.

Actually, that was still there. I heard that. A bit later he was in the ring and there was an edit and then he was halfway up the ramp leaving. There was also a cut out piece in the middle of the ladder match. That couldn't have happened live.

I did not see it Friday night. I downloaded what I saw the next morning. It had a SKYTV(?) logo on it. Maybe it was from a west coast feed? Tape delay?

MasterBates · 7th October 2019, 21:56

Got the original still on my DVR from then of SD/ you didnt miss anything...Rock after beating up on Corbin says I love you Smackdown/if you smell what the rock is cookin/mic drops and hugs becky then she raises the title and he puts his fist in the air. then leaves the ring the goup the ramp while high fiving fans only to raise his fist once more @ top of ramp like taker kindda does.

The Ladder match was probably cut do to lots of cussing i do some editing but for that its prolly easier to cut sections than blank audio
there were some raw moves in there and when it hurts you cuss!!

Rick Sanchez · 7th October 2019, 23:31

According to dirtsheets, Vince was behind the ending last night and laughed at the crowd's reaction. If true, then...

You're getting the crowd to:
1. Boo your top babyface.
2. Chant the initials of your new competitor.
3. Chant "Bullshit."
4. Chant "Refund."

Yeah... Great idea... Dumb fuck.

Love Buzz · 8th October 2019, 12:39

If Seth took his mask off, lights turned to normal, he became mortal Bray and then he beat him, started selling the stick shots to show it etc, it may have eased the what the fuck aspect. We know what he looks like so whatever but it does kinda ruin his matches in future. Looking back he should never have had the title match and apparently he's injured as well.

I know this sounds a bit out there, but is the Fiend supposed to be real? I felt an alternative reality vibe from the match with the lighting especially, almost as if it was happening inside Wyatt's brain. Regardless of theories, the match was fucking terrible, Boss man v Undertaker like, too bad it wasn't just in his brain. The women's cell match though was actually pretty good but Sasha got injured too.

As for Vince, you can laugh off anything when you're in charge of the promotion and you're swimming in cash. He knows the backlash will dissipate quickly. Fans might hold grudges against decisions but typically keep watching anyway, almost as if they feel they can't do anything, but if we stop watching in droves then that is powerful. But as I've said before it'll never happen so the empire always wins.

The rest of the card, what I saw was decent. I skipped the majority of the filler matches.

talltrekkie · 11th October 2019, 07:16

So here's what I've seen about the draft:

It is re-establishing separate rosters and they've been playing up that the picks are coming from the networks not some 'Authority figure'. Unfortunately, they may be read on air by Stephanie...

Once again, Raw gets 3 picks for each of Smackdown's 2 because of show length

First pick goes to brand winner of a Seth(Raw)-Roman(SD) match

There's 30 superstars eligible to be drafted Friday, the other 40 are eligible on Monday. Tag-teams are drafted as a unit unless you state that you only want a specific person.

Not being drafted, like good old Heath Slater was back in the day, means being a free agent that can sign with either brand.

And there may be celebrities to do 'draft analysis' segments.

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Rick Sanchez Registered User Clinically Insane Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Earth C-137 Posts: 2,130 Thanks: 4,329 Thanked 6,428 Times in 1,604 Posts	According to dirtsheets, Vince was behind the ending last night and laughed at the crowd's reaction. If true, then... You're getting the crowd to: 1. Boo your top babyface. 2. Chant the initials of your new competitor. 3. Chant "Bullshit." 4. Chant "Refund." Yeah... Great idea... Dumb fuck. __________________ "Weddings are basically funerals with cake." July 17, 1975 - September 1, 2021.

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Love Buzz Marginalised & Ostracised Clinically Insane Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,659 Thanks: 5,723 Thanked 13,026 Times in 2,762 Posts	Oh great, so I've yet to watch a fucked finish, yay... At least I know beforehand but not like it'll make it any better. I feel obligated to watch this show simply by the Cell branding but part of me going I'd rather not. Four hours of uselessly booked empiretainment is enough to make ya ill and I already feel shitty enough. HBM2, did they cut Rock calling Baron a burger king on crack and the STD chant? Think those were probably the most offense parts but it was littered with bits and bobs they could cut so tough to guess.

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talltrekkie Registered User Addicted Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 749 Thanks: 1,529 Thanked 806 Times in 341 Posts	To be honest, I was only half watching most of the PPV. Mainly because I've been forced to watch on my computer since they updated their system and can't use my Chromecast for live events. So it's really easy to open another window and look at whatever. But also because why should I really care about a match if they can't be arsed to tell me about it before the PPV begins? 4 of the matches last night were never announced, 5 if you count the pre-show match(which is getting the 'salty runback' tonight) and another was only announced Saturday, maybe during Smackdown at best. It's almost like they were so focused on their 'season premier' week and trying to hold down AEW's debut that they forgot there was a PPV coming that following Sunday.

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MasterBates We all need something to live for... Forum Lord Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Greatness from Small Beginnings Posts: 1,223 Thanks: 350 Thanked 9,601 Times in 913 Posts	Got the original still on my DVR from then of SD/ you didnt miss anything...Rock after beating up on Corbin says I love you Smackdown/if you smell what the rock is cookin/mic drops and hugs becky then she raises the title and he puts his fist in the air. then leaves the ring the goup the ramp while high fiving fans only to raise his fist once more @ top of ramp like taker kindda does. The Ladder match was probably cut do to lots of cussing i do some editing but for that its prolly easier to cut sections than blank audio there were some raw moves in there and when it hurts you cuss!!

8th October 2019, 12:39	#18319
Love Buzz Marginalised & Ostracised Clinically Insane Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,659 Thanks: 5,723 Thanked 13,026 Times in 2,762 Posts	If Seth took his mask off, lights turned to normal, he became mortal Bray and then he beat him, started selling the stick shots to show it etc, it may have eased the what the fuck aspect. We know what he looks like so whatever but it does kinda ruin his matches in future. Looking back he should never have had the title match and apparently he's injured as well. I know this sounds a bit out there, but is the Fiend supposed to be real? I felt an alternative reality vibe from the match with the lighting especially, almost as if it was happening inside Wyatt's brain. Regardless of theories, the match was fucking terrible, Boss man v Undertaker like, too bad it wasn't just in his brain. The women's cell match though was actually pretty good but Sasha got injured too. As for Vince, you can laugh off anything when you're in charge of the promotion and you're swimming in cash. He knows the backlash will dissipate quickly. Fans might hold grudges against decisions but typically keep watching anyway, almost as if they feel they can't do anything, but if we stop watching in droves then that is powerful. But as I've said before it'll never happen so the empire always wins. The rest of the card, what I saw was decent. I skipped the majority of the filler matches.

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talltrekkie Registered User Addicted Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 749 Thanks: 1,529 Thanked 806 Times in 341 Posts	So here's what I've seen about the draft: It is re-establishing separate rosters and they've been playing up that the picks are coming from the networks not some 'Authority figure'. Unfortunately, they may be read on air by Stephanie... Once again, Raw gets 3 picks for each of Smackdown's 2 because of show length First pick goes to brand winner of a Seth(Raw)-Roman(SD) match There's 30 superstars eligible to be drafted Friday, the other 40 are eligible on Monday. Tag-teams are drafted as a unit unless you state that you only want a specific person. Not being drafted, like good old Heath Slater was back in the day, means being a free agent that can sign with either brand. And there may be celebrities to do 'draft analysis' segments.