WWE Fans

[Colin_Work]

Originally Posted by burtog

I don't think it's Cena that demands to be the champion - I've heard more stories about him wanting to get another guy over than go over himself. I think he's like the Rock was, where he's willing to lose if it helps the feud. It's Vince & the writers that push him to the top. I think Vince likes having him as the face of the company.

Other than that, I agree virtually everything you say. I'm a huge Punk mark (I dug him even before he went to WWE) so it'd be great to see him as champ again ... but that goes back to the 'face of the company' thing, as I think Vince wants a mainstream media-friendly guy (like Cena or Miz) instead of the tattooed, pierced Punk. (I'm Ok with Miz as champ, though, as I've been a mark for him for a while now, too)

And, yeah, the '92 Rumble was awesome. Heenen's performance in that was perfect, and as someone that liked Flair & Sid from their time in WCW, I loved Sid eliminating Hogan (to cheers from the crowd!) and then Flair dumping him to win. I'm not sure which would be my favorite recent one; last year's, with Punk's sermons & all, was a lot of fun. My only complaints: didn't care for Edge winning, and thought too many eliminations came too quickly.

I think that a big part of Cena's character revolves around the WWE Championship. Besides his feud with Nexus, all he ever does is hunt for the title. I'm not saying that a bad thing...that's what you should be striving for if you are in the wrestling business but I think these days it seems like there is too much emphasis put on how many title reigns so and so has had. Cena's been in WWE, in the big leagues, like since he first debuted on Smackdown challenging Kurt Angle for 8 years now. And he's been champion what 9 times? And how many of those title reigns have been memorable? My point is that a guy can still be over with the fans and the face of the company without having gold around his waist or being in the hunt on every show. For example, Punk or HHH or when he was still wrestling, Shawn Michaels. Those guys, whether heel or face, have always been over with the crowd...title or not. Look at Edge. I love Edge, a fellow Canadian, he and Christian are one of my favorite all time teams. But since winning the WWE Title for the first time in what 2003 or 2004, he's been champion 10 times now...and that's not including his many tag title and Intercontinental reigns? Too much! It's not always about titles, Edge..haha..I think he's a gold whore..haha

[burtog]

Yeah, I do hear where you're coming from, Colin. At one point, being a multi-time champ meant something. Harley Race, 7 time NWA champ ... Dusty Rhodes, 3 time champ ... Bret Hart, 5 time champ. Other than Flair, no one really had an excessive amount of title reigns.

Then the Attitude/Monday Night War era happened, and all of a sudden titles were swapped every few months, even weeks. Edge being champ twice as much as Hart is scary.

I'd love it if the rest of the year had fewer title changes, and fewer repeat champions. Keep it on Miz for a while, and then give it to Morrison for a while, maybe even Danielson for a stretch. On Smackdown, have Edge lose it to Del Rio and then swap it among him, Ziggler, Barrett, etc.

[FREAKZILLA]

Since I am a huge Torrie fan--here is a little something....

The following are some highlights from a new Miami Herald article centered around former WWE Diva Torrie Wilson:

After spending more than nine years in the business, former World Wrestling Entertainment diva Torrie Wilson made the decision to walk away from the ring.

With the physical toll and demanding schedule the blonde bombshell had reached a breaking point in 2008.

Wilson saw the adjustment to home life an easy transition.

“It wasn’t hard for me at all,” said Wilson, who underwent surgery and physical therapy on her back.

“I was so run down from traveling that I loved every second of it. Maybe by the year-and-a-half mark, I probably started getting a little bored being at home but was able to schedule a few trips when I wanted to go somewhere.

“It’s also always hard to have friends outside the wrestling business; so it was nice to cultivate friendships and do a few things ‘normal’ people are able to do.

“[With the back], I still find that I do everything I did before. I can run and workout and everything, but it’s not something I would ever think about risking going back and getting back into the ring. The thought of taking a back bump scares me.”

And here's one more excerpt from the piece:

The Playboy cover girl has an advisory for fans meeting her at signings.

“It’s crazy to believe since I did so much in wrestling and having posed for Playboy twice that I would be kind of prudish,” said Wilson.

“A fan came in one time with a bunch of photos from Playboy from the inside. He just kind of threw them on the table to get signed. I was so embarrassed and kind of hid under the table. I wanted to cover myself up. I don’t sign nude photos ever. All day long I felt bad for the fan, but I just don’t do it. It was not a fun experience. I just hope that doesn’t happen again.”

For info on Wilson’s Diva Trim, visit divatrim net

Check out the complete article online at MiamiHerald com.

[Masterfox]

A title reign should last some time.And there always have been top tier guys who just "exchanged" titles but they held on to them longer. And other guys always got huge (if not bigger) reactions without ever holding the title.(which made them good contenders for the belt holders). So I say keep it on some guys longer and don`t pass it on along the entire locker room

On another topic. What do you think about Wades new group "The Core". Barrett as the leader worked for Nexus but we`ll see how this "all are equal in this group" will work out. And I think Heath Slater should not be allowed near a microphone ever

[FREAKZILLA]

Great Khali involved in shooting in India

WWE wrestler The Great Khali -- real name Dalip Singh -- and his bodyguard were involved in a shooting at the home of a senior Indian politician on Friday, according to India's most prestigious 24-hour news channel, Aaj Tak. Three people have been seriously wounded. The former WWE Champion was invited to the home of the Deputy Speaker of the Punjab State Assemby, Mr. Satpal Gosain (BJP), as Mr. Gosain's grandson is a big fan of Khali.

Local fans had assembled outside Mr. Gosain's residence in the city of Ludhiana, in anticipation of Khali's arrival. When Khali arrived with his entourage, the children approached him for autographs and photos. According to Aaj Tak, instead of receiving autographs and photos from the WWE wrestler, they received bullets.

According to eyewitnesses, including the Deputy Speaker's relatives, Khali's bodyguard was hostile from the start. His bodyguard shoved children as soon as they tried to approach Khali for a photograph. A few minutes later, he grabbed a boy, and started to beat him. The crowd tried to rescue the boy from the bodyguard's clutches, and it is alleged that it was at that point that the bodyguard starting shooting into the crowd. Eyewitnesses put the blame squarely on Khali's bodyguard, who some allege had been drinking alcohol. Aaj Tak reports that the normally fearless Khali immediately fled the scene. Ludhiana police are being silent about the matter thus far, and no charges have been laid.

This is the latest black eye for the WWE in terms of its wrestlers public conduct. Most recently, CM Punk was allegedly involved in a violent altercation with fans in Shreveport, Louisiana, one of them a child, and Alex Riley was booked for driving under the influence of alcohol in Florida.

[FREAKZILLA]

Thanks to Ryan Winfield for sending in the following:

I attended the Smackdown brand house show at Wings Stadium in Kalamazoo last night. Here are the results.

Alberto Del Rio b. R-Truth via submission with his cross armbar. After the match, Del Rio did his speech about destiny and the Rumble, until Truth recovered and took him out.

Dolph Ziggler came out to tell the crowd that the main event would be Kane vs. Edge for the championship where the crowd would chose the stipulation.

JTG b. Tyler Reks via pinfall.

Trent Beretta b. Drew McIntyre via rollup pin. Crowd was decidedly pro-McIntyre here. Afterwords, McIntyre attacked Beretta, Kelly Kelly makes the save. After Kelly slaps Drew and leaves the ring, he delivers the Future Shock to Beretta. Really good match.

Cody Rhodes and Percy Watson ends in a no contest. Cody brought the doctor to the ring with him to attest to his broken nose, and Rhodes fought with a goggle type face mask to protect his nose. I would expect this spot to be repeated on Smackdown this week. A few minutes in, the Corre came out and Rhodes ran off as they beat down Watson.

Big Show b. Wade Barrett via pinfall after chokeslam. Multiple Corre attempts at interference, yet Show fought off all of them.

Beth Phoenix and Natalya b. LeyCool via submission with Kelly Kelly as special ref. Match ended after what could only be described as a double sharpshooter. Natalya stacked Layla and Michelle on top of each other and applied the sharpshooter to both at the same time. One of the cooler spots of the night. Afterwords, LeyCool attacks Kelly, and Hornswaggle comes out to make the save with a double stunner on LeyCool.

Chris Masters b. Jack Swagger via submission using Master Lock. Crowd had zero reaction for either wrestler, and it may have been the most mundane, uneventful match I've seen in 20 years of attending live shows.

Edge b. Kane via pinfall after a spear. The crowd voted for a hardcore match as the stipulation. Not much in the way of hardcore, but there was a lot of brawling in the crowd. After the match, Ziggler came down and said he didn't want to wait for the Rumble, he wanted his title shot tonight. Before he finished, he received a chokeslam from Kane. After Ziggler and Edge both got back to their feet, the ref rang the bell and Edge immediatley speared Ziggler for the win in a 6 second match.

Biggest Pops
1. Big Show
2. Edge
3. R-Truth

Biggest Heat
1. Del Rio
2. The Corre
3. Dolph Ziggler

[FREAKZILLA]

WWE Raw House Show Results (1/22): State College, PA
- Fatal 4 way for united states championship daniel bryan vs ted dibiase vs ted dibiase william regal good match big pop for bryan , bryan wins with labelle lock on dibiase

- Match 2, 6 man tag match, new nexus minus ryan and punk vs mark henry yoshi tatsu &kozloz huge pop for henry slow match, ryan interfered and gave henry a big boot, win for nexus

- 6 diva tag match, maryse, milena alicia foxx vs gail kim eve & timena, faces came out in pittsburgh steelers jerseys kissing ass to the crowd, boring match, faces win

intermission bellas threw shirts out to the crowd

- Co-main event cena vs punk, huge pop for cena HUGE heat for punk, gm texts the announcer and bans nexus from ring side, great match though punk was hilarious the whole match, cena win of course with the stf

- Main event for wwe title, miz vs orton, good match went back and forth, a lot of interference from a-rye gave miz the win, on there way out gm texts the announcer and orders the miz to stay backstage and makes a-rye come back and face orton in a no holds barred match, a-rye comes back and is rko'd in under a minute,

Great show beside the people with no respect cussing around my kid, biggest pops were for henry morrison cena & orton, biggest heat for nexus and c.m. punk.

[FREAKZILLA]

Updated WWE Royal Rumble Card: 4 Announced Matches

40 Man Royal Rumble Match

WWE Championship Match:
The Miz (c) vs. Randy Orton

WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match:
Edge (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler

WWE Divas Championship Handicap Match:
Natalya (c) vs. LayCool

[burtog]

With 40 entrants, it'll be that much tougher to pick a winner in the Rumble this year. I have, jeez, like 4 different people that I could see winning, and that's not including a few returnees and a few other longer-shots that I could see winning.

I also think the handicap match might lead to the debut of (the former) Awesome Kong. I'm just not sure if it'd be her with Natalya or with LayCool. (Then again, I had a conversation with a friend about how the Gail Kim/Bella Twins incident last night on Raw could lead to Kong's debut ... I think I just want her in the WWE as quickly as possible!)

And itsbaba asked a question a month or so ago that I'm not sure was answered:

Originally Posted by itsbaba

Hello! FREAKZILLA, I would like to share some WWE videos. Is it's right
to post it here ? If not where to post?

Are we allowed to post WWE videos in this thread? I did a year or so ago (some might remember "Burtog's Road to Wrestlemania" from two years ago) but I don't honestly know if that's Ok still or not. If so, I have some videos to share ... but I don't want to get banned/suspended, or make waves for PS.

[FREAKZILLA]

burtog

I would PM one of the mods and see what the6 have to say. I have posted
a few youtube vids in the past but thats about it as far as wwe stuff goes. I know there are diva vids in the models section.

Did you catch raw lastnight? Too bad Cena did not let them beat the heck out of each other . I know its a script but that would have been a better one