DepositFiles Issues

[DarkGuyver]

Originally Posted by bumsex

Seems to not be working at all for me and hsnt for a couple of days, is this another UK ISP block bullshit?

I hope it's not!

[conflicted100]

First briefly, depositfiles itself has been working OK for me in the US--haven't had the problems others reported for the last couple of weeks, though I've only been downloading every three or four days, not every day, so might have missed the problem days.

Now to my real issue, download managers (see my previous posts in this thread). Before the JDownloader malware fiasco (see above), I had installed Mipony. Unfortunately, I must report that Trilight is correct in post http://veterperementour.ru/showpost.p...postcount=1377 above. (I installed the version immediately prior to the current version, which has only been out for about two weeks; I installed just a day or so prior to the new version's release, I guess). At install time I made sure to opt out of every item for which I had a choice during the installation. Sure enough, Mipony worked great. I could paste large groups of text links into it and download them automatically with no trouble (in an earlier post I complained that Mipony wasn't working with Depositfiles but it turned out that I wasn't using Mipony correctly). But trouble later reared its head in the form of the malware issue.

While less intrusive and causing no interference with my machine's actual operation--unlike JDownloader, which actually caused me noticeable problems--it turns out that Mipony does install sneaky adware or malware of some kind. As part of my effort to deal with the JDownloader problem, I installed Malwarebytes and opted for the full-version trial instead of just the free scanner. Sorry I didn't keep a record of the details of what follows--I've been exceptionally busy the past while & couldn't write things down as they happened--but anyhow, after I crossed JDownloader off my list, I went back to Mipony, really read the docs, and figured out how to work it for Depositfiles. Things went great for a few days--but then Malwarebytes popped up a little window saying it had caught Mipony trying to do something unauthorized, and indicated that some kind of adware was involved. Again, sorry I didn't have time to write down the details. I simply uninstalled Mipony right then and there, then did a registry search and deleted everything that regedit found for "Mipony". I probably didn't catch whatever adware Mipony installed without my permission, but hopefully the 'ware is crippled without Mipony's help.

Unfortunately JD and 'pony seem to be the only real options for effective downloading from Depositfiles. If, like me, you are simply not willing to allow them to sneak around your system and report your browsing habits so they can resell the info to someone else, which is probably the purpose, what can you do?

There may be a better solution than this, but my half-baked approach is to use the non-malware, open-source Free Download Manager (FDM). I tried it with both Gator and Depfiles; at the time I had premium for both. First, a quirk: although FDM has a "site manager" tab in its middle window that allows you to specify a site (inputting its main URL) and add a username/password, it doesn't work for these hosting sites; to download from them in FDM at premium speed without captcha you must have a separate html page open to the host and be logged in to the host on that page. If you close all html pages for the site, FDM will treat you as a nonmember user--it will demand capchas and won't download at premium speed. (This html login may need to be carried out prior to starting FDM, too; I'm not sure about that--I just always did it that way.) That's easy enough, but then comes the bad news: FDM has a queue feature that accepts cut-and-pasted text for links but doesn't work with either of these hosts. Instead, if you copy-and-paste a text link into FDM, the app will download the HTML container page, not the file. However, there is a way to create a queue that will cause FDM to download the actual file: first configure FDM to monitor/intercept downloads from your browser (see FDM help for details), then in said browser you need to manually navigate to the container page and click the download link for the file. As long as the file is an archive, FDM will then pop up a dialog allowing you to add the file to your queue. For some reason FDM will not intercept the link if it is a straight video clip, i.e. *.mp4, *.mpg, *.mov etc. not embedded within an archive, so you'll need to manually download those--although that may be a configuration issue who setting I haven't yet found.

Though tedious to create, a queue formed in this way works quite well with gator, although you must use only page-container numbers, chopping off the filename+html endings usually found in gator links (i.e. if the original link is http://rapidgator.net/file/a9e8da8a7...fmy18.mp4.html, you must copy the link, paste it into your browser field, delete the bjafmy18.mp4.html, and only then press Enter to go to the page). If you don't delete the ending part, FDM will download the container page's html, not the file, just as if you had pasted in a text link rather than navigating to the page. Don't ask me why. But once you've set up a queue by BOTH chopping off the <filename>.<ext>.html ending (if present) AND THEN manually navigating to the page and clicking the link, FDM will download your queue automatically with no problem.

Depositfiles, unfortunately, is a different story. Depositfiles doesn't play nice with FDM. I found that if I waited several days between download sessions, I could set up a queue and Depositfiles would download some of them automatically, but there was always a fairly severe limit. It definitely had something to do with file size, not number of files, because I once successfully downloaded a queued sequence of around 30 photosets without a problem. However, Depositfiles would only allow FDM to download from six to maybe twelve video clips (or parts) before forcing a failure. And after that first failure, all the other files left in the queue will also fail. Henceforth none of them can be downloaded; if you manually start one of those files, nothing will happen. You must remove them all. Then if you add new files, FDM may download two or three before failing again, forcing you once again to remove all the newly queued files; and after that, if you add further files, odds are that Depositfiles will allow FDM only a single file before failing all the rest. This behavior will last until you take a substantial break, around a day or so, at which time you can start over with another queue of six-to-twelve files before the next failure.

I don't have any real evidence that would point to a clear reason for this behavior, but some speculation is possible. Mipony and JDownloader don't have this problem with Depositfiles. Whenever I downloaded with Mipony, the queue zipped right along automatically with no hiccups at an average of 1300kbps--always, every time. So it is possible that Mipony and JD have some kind of financial deal with Depositfiles, which gave these two developers inside access to Depositfile server protocols to download effectively, shutting out other download managers which aren't written for those special protocols. We already know that Mipony and JD install shady software without user permission, and such software might somehow be used in a collusion involving the three different companies; the download-managers would benefit because users can't download effectively from Depositfiles with any other software, so more users install the software; while Depositfiles would benefit by getting some kind of kickback for every file downloaded by a Mipony or JD user (hence the need for malware--Mipony and JD need to track exactly what you do so they can pay Depositfiles as well as sell your general browsing habits to info-mining outfits). Or something like that.

Or it could just be that Depositfiles just isn't run as cleanly as Gator, so FDM chokes on Depositfiles and doesn't choke on Gator. But whatever the case, Depositfiles is clearly the less desirable host in terms of download efficiency. The bummer, of course, is that Gator is the worst offender of all the commonly-used hosts in terms of taking down files quickly. Depositfiles, on the other hand, leaves inactive files up for a good deal longer. Guess you've gotta pick your poison.

Last comment: iamtherealpoco in post http://veterperementour.ru/showpost.p...postcount=1372 recommended an app well-known to be laden with malware (JDownloader) to a newbie who clearly knew nothing about these issues, and 'poco neglected to alert said newbie to the malware problem. That stinks. PlanetSuzy explicitly advertises itself as "friendly," and I thought that a PSuzy member with as many posts as poco would be solid. Certainly a "friendly" member, even if s/he felt the malware was worth the tradeoff in effective downloading, would tell a novice that that the issue existed rather than allowing said novice to unsuspectingly toddle off to the developer's site and download the stuff straightaway. Obviously the developer's not going to own up to their shady practices; you can only find relevant info once you suspect there's a problem and explicitly search for info about it, so it's highly unlikely that novices will find out about such problems on their own, especially when given a recommendation by a seemingly reputable member of a forum they have come to trust. Ergo, it's ethically incumbent upon recommenders such as poco to give a warning. Shame on him/her for not doing that.

[iamtherealpoco]

conflicted100
Junior Member

Scanning your recent post (sorry, I didn't have the time or inclination to read it completely) I noticed my name was mentioned

I stand by my recommendation of JDownloader2....never, ever had any adware/malware issues with this program. Be careful of the site you DL JDL from....many sites such as CNET Download.com and FileHippo.com wil add
bloatware, toolbars, etc to be installed. This has happened to us all at least
once Learn from experience. I DO NOT believe any malware/adware attached to a JDL2 DL was due to the developer's "shady practices"!

Furthermore never blindly trust the recommendation of any "friendly PS member' cause we might be trying to screw the poor lil newbie...LOL

[conflicted100]

Originally Posted by iamtherealpoco

I stand by my recommendation of JDownloader2....never, ever had any adware/malware issues with this program. Be careful of the site you DL JDL from....many sites such as CNET Download.com and FileHippo.com wil add
bloatware, toolbars, etc to be installed.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are using an old version of JDownloader. Perhaps the malware is relatively new. At any rate, if you had read my previous posts you would know that I downloaded it directly from the developer's site; and you would also know--because I posted the link--that all sorts of users have found that the JD developer has now inserted malware into his app but doesn't allow you to opt out. He gives you the illusion with a "Decline" button, but even if you Decline everything, as I did, he still sneaks malware onto your system. This is now a well-attested problem experienced by many tech-savvy users who have downloaded straight from the developer's site, not from third parties. In the linked thread the developer himself denies the malware problem, but his many angry users demonstrate otherwise.

[lomitas]

no panic

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[balbasboa]

Averaging between 7.9 kbs and 24kbs speed... I'm getting ready to find a new hobby.

[Obivanwa]

Originally Posted by conflicted100

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are using an old version of JDownloader. Perhaps the malware is relatively new. At any rate, if you had read my previous posts you would know that I downloaded it directly from the developer's site; and you would also know--because I posted the link--that all sorts of users have found that the JD developer has now inserted malware into his app but doesn't allow you to opt out. He gives you the illusion with a "Decline" button, but even if you Decline everything, as I did, he still sneaks malware onto your system. This is now a well-attested problem experienced by many tech-savvy users who have downloaded straight from the developer's site, not from third parties. In the linked thread the developer himself denies the malware problem, but his many angry users demonstrate otherwise.

I also got malware when I downloaded it from the official page (yes, I am sure, and yes it was official page). This was in February.

[HiTrack99]

I'm running Malwarebytes Pro and I have had no warnings or suspicious activity. The Zips I have downloaded have all been what they said they were on the tin.

[Trilight]

The topic of this thread is Depositfiles (Issues, Complaints, Praises, Recommendations, Discussion, ....)
The topic is not a poll where did you download your jdownloader sources and are you happy with this download

conflicted100 wanted to have recommendations for a DF download manager and he is obviously not happy with jdownloader (neither DF manager, IDM, FDM nor mipony). That's OK, that's his opinion and if you are able to provide a new recommendation then you are welcome.

If you want to make statements about jdownloader or share your experiences then go to Computer Help. The section is full of threads about the software jdownloader.

Thanks for your understanding

[labialover]

My depositfiles is suddenly all in Russian, anyone know how to change it to English? I have googled and all the results are in English but when I click on the links, they appear in Russian