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Old 29th November 2012, 05:40   #1

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Just curious, I run a Windows 7 64bit system and recently ran windows update.

Needless to say the effects appeared catastrophic. I immediately rolled my PC back two days and everything is running fine.

Do any of the resident PC gurus know if something out of the ordinary is up with recent updates from Microsoft? I've looked I can find no significant issues online.
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The recent updates installed on my machines without any issue. Create a current restore point, then try installing the updates one at a time. You will then at least know which update is causing the problem.
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So what happened?

Sound go, graphics go, house catch fire, what exactly?
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Try to open a webpage of any kind and it's like the PC had developed Hemorrhagic Fever. I do run a lot of flash content. However, realizing that in itself is like opening the ark of the covenant. Tried to open more basic pages. Still a disaster ensued.

I honestly suspect it has something to do with a Net Framework Update.
(Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 for x64-based Systems (KB2729452)

Download size: 13.0 MB

You may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.

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Update type: Important

A security issue has been identified that could allow an unauthenticated remote attacker to compromise your system and gain control over it. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this update, you may have to restart your system.
I didn't disclose that as I was hoping someone in the know would've known what it was without a clue.

Any clue or reasonable advice you or anyone can offer would be well received.
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Just curious, I run a Windows 7 64bit system and recently ran windows update.

Needless to say the effects appeared catastrophic. I immediately rolled my PC back two days and everything is running fine.

Do any of the resident PC gurus know if something out of the ordinary is up with recent updates from Microsoft? I've looked I can find no significant issues online.
I had severe issue's with that update. (wanted me to reboot)) normally that's not a problem but eventually couldn't do a fucking thing. was like running a computer from 1995 at the time. Seems okay now.
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I had severe issue's with that update. (wanted me to reboot)) normally that's not a problem but eventually couldn't do a fucking thing. was like running a computer from 1995 at the time. Seems okay now.
How did you resolve the issue?
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How did you resolve the issue?
I cannot speak for PatrynXX, but whilst they don't make a lot of 'noise' about it, you can un-install updates using Windows itself.

(There is a reasonable argument, [for Windows updates only] that this is more prudent to use than an un-installing tool like Revo for example.
Whilst I usually use an un-installing tool [they better clear the registry etc, etc] in the case of the operating system, they can be a little "over enthusiastic" in doing same, and thus have an adverse effect on another part of the operating system)

1] > CPanel > Windows Update > View update history (in/on left side column)

2] Click installed updates (at top) > click on 'offending' update and leave it highlighted.

3] Now right click that highlighted item, and it will open an 'uninstall' box; just run that.
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I rebooted. normally such updates don't kill the computer .. this one did. course some updates have mucked up my OS. One time Microsoft said screw the Makers disc and they sent their own. a no more bloat ware

and for some of us who know toooo much. try the event viewer as well and look for anything in yellow or red. I'd say red.. typing this into the run box on windows 7 should pop it up

look up windows logs and check thru those.
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Just saw this ... sorry for the late response.

There were a pair of Windows updates from late November that made their way into most of the client machines we support within the last 2 weeks or so.

For the most part, both of them installed without a hitch on every system that I'm aware of ... and we're talking about at least 100 machines or so that I've personally interacted with since that are running 64-bit Windows 7 that appear to be fine. (As well as plenty more that are running other flavors of Windows).

However, at one client site in particular, one of those updates (and neither of them were described any better in the uninstall screen than "Update for Windows") consistently caused all sorts of problems for every Windows 7 user (32 or 64 bit) running Office 2007. The symptom was that the machine would boot up OK and appear to work fine, but as soon as Outlook was launched, ALL Office applications, whether already open or opened after the fact, would run like molasses ... essentially rendering the station useless for any type of Office work.

Removing and suspending that update (it was the last one of the two) immediately resolved this issue on all machines in question. This occurred on a dozen or so systems.

I was far more focused on finding a solution than a cause at the time, but a web search turned up nothing as far as it being an epidemic problem. So I figured it was related to some particular program in the suite of software deployed at my client site as opposed to a mass defect in the update itself.

I haven't had anyone, anywhere complain about the framework update you mentioned as of yet. But I'll personally be watching the next round of updates at the one site where we saw these problems to see if anything recurs, or if I can safely restore the suspended update. When things like this happen, that's quite frequently the case.

Unfortunately, your problem sounds as if it's a bit deeper. I can't say that I've seen anything quite as catastrophic as you're describing that was definitively caused by an update in quite some time. It has happened, though.
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Just saw this ... sorry for the late response.

There were a pair of Windows updates from late November that made their way into most of the client machines we support within the last 2 weeks or so.

For the most part, both of them installed without a hitch on every system that I'm aware of ... and we're talking about at least 100 machines or so that I've personally interacted with since that are running 64-bit Windows 7 that appear to be fine. (As well as plenty more that are running other flavors of Windows).

However, at one client site in particular, one of those updates (and neither of them were described any better in the uninstall screen than "Update for Windows") consistently caused all sorts of problems for every Windows 7 user (32 or 64 bit) running Office 2007. The symptom was that the machine would boot up OK and appear to work fine, but as soon as Outlook was launched, ALL Office applications, whether already open or opened after the fact, would run like molasses ... essentially rendering the station useless for any type of Office work.

Removing and suspending that update (it was the last one of the two) immediately resolved this issue on all machines in question. This occurred on a dozen or so systems.

I was far more focused on finding a solution than a cause at the time, but a web search turned up nothing as far as it being an epidemic problem. So I figured it was related to some particular program in the suite of software deployed at my client site as opposed to a mass defect in the update itself.

I haven't had anyone, anywhere complain about the framework update you mentioned as of yet. But I'll personally be watching the next round of updates at the one site where we saw these problems to see if anything recurs, or if I can safely restore the suspended update. When things like this happen, that's quite frequently the case.

Unfortunately, your problem sounds as if it's a bit deeper. I can't say that I've seen anything quite as catastrophic as you're describing that was definitively caused by an update in quite some time. It has happened, though.
Just for information I'm running both Win 7 64bit and Office 2007. I'm fully updated with all Windows updates and haven't experienced any problems.
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