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Old 18th September 2024, 17:43   #291
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22 countries do not have laws against incest. Incest is legal in the countries of Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, France, India, Israel, Italy, Ivory Coast, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, Serbia, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Thailand, Turkey, and in some states in the US.

Obviously taboo in all these places but not illegal.
Not quite as simple and straightforward as that me old mucker.
Take France for instance. This news article is a close study of French incest laws updated in 2021

The EU has very strong incest legislation and since the ECJ takes precedent over all EU member states' domestic law courts (just one of UK's bugbears with EU) it's those laws that govern how countries like Belgium handle the matter. Keep in mind too that many Eastern bloc countries and Balkan States as well as Turkey are EU partners and as such must bring all legislation into line with the ECJ. Alignment is an essential part of the deal. Another reason why the UK is not even an official "partner State" (though ties remain essentially close).

I don't know what the hell the US is doing. I learned a few years ago that many of the Southern States are the world's capital for underaged sex and child brides which makes the objections on moral grounds of many of America's more "devout" (rabid) Christian Bible bashers to extreme Muslim regimes that marry off young girls quite laughable. With respect to any Americans present, the country is more than a bit of a dumpster fire right now and I can't see an outcome that's in any way positive. But with the child sex stats and the demolition of Roe v Wade, I really wouldn't want to be a young girl in the US deep South.

The rest of that incest statement looks like a straight copy of the list published by The Mirror Group of newspapers, a tabloid that loves a headline but rarely lets vigorous fact checking or in-depth study of a situation get in the way of a sensational headline. You might want to do a bit more research and reading. You may well be surprised at the results.
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I don't know what the hell the US is doing. I learned a few years ago that many of the Southern States are the world's capital for underaged sex and child brides which makes the objections on moral grounds of many of America's more "devout" (rabid) Christian Bible bashers to extreme Muslim regimes that marry off young girls quite laughable. With respect to any Americans present, the country is more than a bit of a dumpster fire right now and I can't see an outcome that's in any way positive. But with the child sex stats and the demolition of Roe v Wade, I really wouldn't want to be a young girl in the US deep South.

The rest of that incest statement looks like a straight copy of the list published by The Mirror Group of newspapers, a tabloid that loves a headline but rarely lets vigorous fact checking or in-depth study of a situation get in the way of a sensational headline. You might want to do a bit more research and reading. You may well be surprised at the results.
You'll really use any excuse to go on an anti-American screed. If you really believe that "many of the southern states" in the US ("many" being tellingly ambiguous btw) to be the world's capital for underaged sex and child brides, then you're as gullible and naive as they come. You clearly have no knowledge of South American, African, Asian or Middle Eastern societies. Much like the Mirror Group that you criticize, you don't let "vigorous fact checking or in-depth study of a situation get in the way" of your prejudice and ideology.

What utopian paradise are you from btw?
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You'll really use any excuse to go on an anti-American screed. If you really believe that "many of the southern states" in the US ("many" being tellingly ambiguous btw) to be the world's capital for underaged sex and child brides, then you're as gullible and naive as they come. You clearly have no knowledge of South American, African, Asian or Middle Eastern societies. Much like the Mirror Group that you criticize, you don't let "vigorous fact checking or in-depth study of a situation get in the way" of your prejudice and ideology.

What utopian paradise are you from btw?

"Any excuse"?
Not hardly
http://thehill.com/changing-america...u-s-heres-why/

http://childusa.org/child-marriage/

These are just two of USA's more respected publications on the subject. Note that. They are American organisations reporting on a subject USA has been at pains to either ignore or avoid, probably because it chooses not to concede how sociologiaclly similar it is in some aspects to countries like India, Ethiopia and Nigeria.

Child USA has several reports you would do well to read thoroughly. Perhaps this might penetrate your clear "patriotism" that has prevented you from removing those blinkers you seem to be cleaving to.

This report by the Journal of Adolescent Health is particularly eye opening
http://jahonline.org/article/S1...341-4/fulltext
since it not only provides numbers generally and easily unavailable because so many States in USA refuse to collect data on the subject, it clearly cites all sources so everything is verifiable. The results are horrifically Third World.



If you fail to admit to a problem you can't deal with it.
But hey. You do you. Or your sister as the case may be.
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"Any excuse"?
Not hardly
http://thehill.com/changing-america...u-s-heres-why/

http://childusa.org/child-marriage/

These are just two of USA's more respected publications on the subject. Note that. They are American organisations reporting on a subject USA has been at pains to either ignore or avoid, probably because it chooses not to concede how sociologiaclly similar it is in some aspects to countries like India, Ethiopia and Nigeria.

Child USA has several reports you would do well to read thoroughly. Perhaps this might penetrate your clear "patriotism" that has prevented you from removing those blinkers you seem to be cleaving to.

This report by the Journal of Adolescent Health is particularly eye opening
http://jahonline.org/article/S1...341-4/fulltext
since it not only provides numbers generally and easily unavailable because so many States in USA refuse to collect data on the subject, it clearly cites all sources so everything is verifiable. The results are horrifically Third World.

If you fail to admit to a problem you can't deal with it.
But hey. You do you. Or your sister as the case may be.
I'm well aware of underage marriage in certain parts of the US. What I took issue with is your blatantly false statement that these places are "the world's capital for underaged sex and child brides". None of the articles you shared state that. My response isn't based on patriotism but an intense dislike for misinformation and lies being peddled as facts. This is much too common nowadays. Also, your casual accusation of incest because I dared to criticize you, really shows the kind of person you are. Qanon vibes.
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Bollocks
This one is from MIT
http://iwf.org.uk/news-media/iw...other-country/

This is from statista
http://statista.com/study/14313...tista-dossier/

Follow the white rabbit and you'll find more reports from UNICEF, WHO, NSPCC and others.
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BTW I'm way impressed by the feat of speed reading, ploughing through all those Child USA reports before stating what they "don't say".
It really adds credence to the claim of hating misinformation peddled as fact.
Journal of Adolescent Health alone states that the reason why statistics on USA child marriage/sex/abuse/pornography are so hard to compile is that there are no Federal statutes and most of the States where these issues are most prevalent refuse to compile or keep any kind of official record.
The State equivalent of "I can't see you. You're not there", I suppose.

It may interest you to note that incest is now the most popular subject in US made pornography. and who could forget Ted Cruz sitting in the US Senate "liking" a Cory Chase video depicting a mother jumping her son. This stuff may be technically legal (or at least it was once everyone suddenly became a "step" relation after the lawyers were scared out of their wits by Federal prosecutors) but there's no denying the link between fantasy and action. In the USA, unlike other producers, this genre is an obsession.

Chuck all the "QAnon" shade you like. I'm the one providing facts and links to studies carried out by reputable organisation, not freaks in tin foil hats banging on about Hillary Clinton owned child farms under McDonalds. In every single one of those child marriages, some of them to girls as young as ten years old, sex becomes legal as soon as the marriage documents are signed. Every single incident of child pornography is an incident of child sexual abuse. That's not made up. These are proven facts by reputable organisations.

All you are doing is slinging personal sleights. America has real social problems and living in denial doesn't change that, which is why the provision of adequate choices and care in the dismissal of Roe V Wade, particularly in Southern States which have chosen to outlaw abortion entirely, is such a hot political topic and central to the upcoming election.
Oddly enough these are the very people who populate the QAnon masses perpetrating the Clinton/Child sex theories, while their hero Donald Trump calls his own daughter "a great piece of ass".

But hey. You live in your America the Beautiful bunker if you like.
Just remember the shining light on the hill is almost certainly an illuminated ad for daddy daughter videos.

Anyway. We've strayed way off topic for this thread, and it's getting way too personal not to turn into a flame war so I'm going to bow out at this point.
You can have whatever little denial rant you want to follow up. I won't be responding.

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Bollocks
This one is from MIT
http://iwf.org.uk/news-media/iw...other-country/

This is from statista
http://statista.com/study/14313...tista-dossier/

Follow the white rabbit and you'll find more reports from UNICEF, WHO, NSPCC and others.
DUCKDUCKGO is your friend.

It may interest you to note that incest is now the most popular subject in US made pornography. and who could forget Ted Cruz sitting in the US Senate "liking" a Cory Chase video depicting a mother jumping her son.

Chuck all the "QAnon" shade you like. I'm the one providing facts. All you are doing is slinging personal sleights.

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Providing facts? Yet you fail to address the blatant falsehood you tried to pass as a fact. Posting links won't cover that up and again, none of them support your assertion.

Now you're bringing up Ted Cruz and faux incest porn? You're deflecting and reaching.
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Couldn't let that go.
Also seriously impressed that you can speed read an MIT report and respond in under a minute.

The Heritage Organisation is the leading conservative think tank in Washington DC
The 19th is a news organisation founded by respected journalists and styled after the 19th amendment of the US constitution. Their well researched article on child marriage in 80% of the USA is eye opening..

Nice selective edting BTW. You missed the important bit "This stuff may be technically legal (or at least it was once everyone suddenly became a "step" relation after the lawyers were scared out of their wits by Federal prosecutors) but there's no denying the link between fantasy and action. In the USA, unlike other producers, this genre is an obsession."
Ted Cruz wasn't a reach. It was an example of an attitude now prevalent in all walks of US society.
A lie of omission is still a lie. So much for hating misinformation.

I've now unsubscribed from this thread.

You're an uninformed idiot whose only weapon is denial.
Go to bed. And for the love of God, do so alone.

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Couldn't let that go.
Also seriously impressed that you can speed read an MIT report and respond in under a minute.

You're an uninformed idiot
go to bed.
I thought you wouldn't be replying anymore.

Again, none these links you keep posting back up your false assertion.

Whose making things personal? You've called me an idiot and accused me of incest. Unhinged.
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