Will CGI make Pornstars redundant?

[muwarr90]

Getting rid of live porn stars for CGI is very, very, unlikely to save studios money in the foreseeable future.

Even when we get to the point of being able to make completely life like figures, which isn't far off, someone still needs to program and animate the figures. That takes time. The person who does that work needs to be paid for their time. And more to the point, that person is a SKILLED worker. You will pay them much more than some 19 YO high school drop out.

Even if you use motion capture of a real person as the basis, you are still spending more. Now you need to hire the 19YO HS drop out and someone to do the skilled work of the CGI overlay.

CGI will be a niche. A more expensive niche. Live actors in front of a decent camera in some apartment in the valley will remain the quicker, cheaper and more profitable way to produce porn.

[BungyBang]

Nothing cant replace real human, man and woman !

[USS Sulaco]

I can see a future where an adult performer may license their likeness for use but a wholly-generated synthetic experience? Don't see it.

[Tristann]

Not for me at least: I need to smell the skin, the sweat, see the genuine pussy juice and watch the flesh bounce.

[KeepItReal]

It's getting close, but I reckon we still need another 10 years before CGI becomes "identical" to real life... and then the world will change forever !!

There will be software "Porn Engines" just like we have Game Engines today =
http://gamedevacademy.org/best-game-engines/

This will open up a huge market for amateur porn directors who will create their own movies and sell them online - eventually we'll all become Greg Lansky and have our own Porn Studio lol !!

I can see the AVN Awards adding a category for Best CGI Porn in 2030 - and the winner being an ordinary schmuck like me haha !!

"Real" porn will still exist - but only for a another decade or so I think... by 2040, nothing "human" will be able to compete with the pixels of our imaginations !!

Which may not even be pixels - as technology would have moved on to fully 3D Holograms !!

And eventually, by 2050 - we'll have Blade Runner style Replicants !!

Then, Porn as we know, will quickly die away - as we all buy our own programmable pornstars to make every one of our sexual desires/fantasies become a physical reality !!

And then - people will no longer bother to meet or mate... so humanity will go extinct !!

THE END

[naturals]

No.

[Johnny Cage]

Originally Posted by muwarr90

Getting rid of live porn stars for CGI is very, very, unlikely to save studios money in the foreseeable future.

Even when we get to the point of being able to make completely life like figures, which isn't far off, someone still needs to program and animate the figures. That takes time. The person who does that work needs to be paid for their time. And more to the point, that person is a SKILLED worker. You will pay them much more than some 19 YO high school drop out.

Even if you use motion capture of a real person as the basis, you are still spending more. Now you need to hire the 19YO HS drop out and someone to do the skilled work of the CGI overlay.

CGI will be a niche. A more expensive niche. Live actors in front of a decent camera in some apartment in the valley will remain the quicker, cheaper and more profitable way to produce porn.

Well deepfake technology is already within the reach of anyone with even a moderately powerful home computer. The threshold in the technical sense will also come down as the technology itself is improved upon.

[muwarr90]

Originally Posted by Johnny Cage

Well deepfake technology is already within the reach of anyone with even a moderately powerful home computer. The threshold in the technical sense will also come down as the technology itself is improved upon.

But for deep fake, you still need a full base scene to be shot, and then you have the costs of the post processing added on to that. The post processing labor costs are the more significant if you want a decent quality final product.

Good quality CGI of any kind is not easy. It's not a matter of affording the equipment, it's knowing how to use the equipment, and having the time and talent to use it effectively.

[reclaimer]

Originally Posted by muwarr90

Getting rid of live porn stars for CGI is very, very, unlikely to save studios money in the foreseeable future.

Even when we get to the point of being able to make completely life like figures, which isn't far off, someone still needs to program and animate the figures. That takes time. The person who does that work needs to be paid for their time. And more to the point, that person is a SKILLED worker. You will pay them much more than some 19 YO high school drop out.

Even if you use motion capture of a real person as the basis, you are still spending more. Now you need to hire the 19YO HS drop out and someone to do the skilled work of the CGI overlay.

CGI will be a niche. A more expensive niche. Live actors in front of a decent camera in some apartment in the valley will remain the quicker, cheaper and more profitable way to produce porn.

We're at the point that hobbyists are producing stuff that is not far off from life like at the moment using programs like Source Filmmaker and Blender. High definition models and skins can be bought and sold so that the cost of production are split over many people.

That being said, you're right that an actual company producing stuff would almost certainly have to have professionals that are expensive. But said professional could produce hundreds of videos a year through various shortcuts that animation and video game companies already use. e.g. Let's say they make 5 different 20 second cowgirl animations on a model skeleton. With repeating frames, doing them at various speeds, blending them in different orders, doing them with different skins, showing them from different angles, they could make a near infinite number of different videos.

I honestly think that the cost of doing it in 3d CG is comparable to that of running a studio for the year and all of the costs associated with that. The reason nobody is doing it is that's a pretty big financial risk. If a porn studio goes under, they can at least recoup some of their costs by selling their film library to another studio. If a 3d CG porn company goes under, all of their assets are pretty much worthless.

[Tristann]

Deepfake is unfair, dangerous, unethical and should be 100% forbidden.

Now if one day they artificially resuscitate Monica (with her consent) and make new scenes, with cool stuff such as DAP, anal fisting and 30+ males gangbang or bukkakee and if it is realistic enough, I'll maybe change my mind.

But you shouldn't underestimate the huge work and processing power required to render a human body realistically. Skin and (body) fluids are close to impossible to imitate convincingly, at least without a huge budget.